A confession to the MFP Police
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Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
You mean like the ones you claim have you at a net negative caloric intake, yep....they're good.0 -
Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
I wasn't including myself in that group, but there are many people on this site who have spent a lot of time and effort learning about fitness and nutrition, because they are interested in it. They make an effort to help others who are struggling.
In some cases, they have more knowledge about this subject matter than MDs, because it is their primary focus. Thanks for your sarcasm, though. That proves my point. I will be less inclined to help people in the forums with what knowledge and experience I DO have, now that I realise how my help is perceived.0 -
It's not the help that most resent...it's their tone. I've been called stupid more here in the last two days than ever in my life. Starting to wonder how I ever became valedictorian of my class.
Please show me the threads that you were called stupid in.
Sorry, not those exactly those words. One "gentleman" told me that his six year old daughter could do better research than I could. If he was an expert in the field he was talking about, he should have told the rest of the posters and I'm certain they (and I) would have deferred to him.
Thank you, for pointing out the obvious to those that talk about parroting back information. Again, I'll back out bowing to your superior intelligence.
Well that is different. ability to research is not an indication of intelligence. While I am sure the poster meant it negatively, I think you may have taken it harder than you should have.0 -
I love this post too and agree that they are waaayyyy too many bullies on MFP, hiding behind their computer.0
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Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
Where did you?
Since you ask, my college degree has nothing to do with the medical field therefore I do not offer any medical type of advice to anyone nor do I ask it of anyone online. I stick to the true professionals (MY DOCTORS).0 -
As long as we're confessing, I STILL don't know what TDEE is, not because I don't know how to look it up because it's probably more detail than I need.0
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Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
I wasn't including myself in that group, but there are many people on this site who have spent a lot of time and effort learning about fitness and nutrition, because they are interested in it. They make an effort to help others who are struggling.
In some cases, they have more knowledge about this subject matter than MDs, because it is their primary focus. Thanks for your sarcasm, though. That proves my point. I will be less inclined to help people in the forums with what knowledge at experience I DO have, now that I realise how my help is perceived.
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It's not the help that most resent...it's their tone. I've been called stupid more here in the last two days than ever in my life. Starting to wonder how I ever became valedictorian of my class.
Please show me the threads that you were called stupid in.
Sorry, not those exactly those words. One "gentleman" told me that his six year old daughter could do better research than I could. If he was an expert in the field he was talking about, he should have told the rest of the posters and I'm certain they (and I) would have deferred to him.
Thank you, for pointing out the obvious to those that talk about parroting back information. Again, I'll back out bowing to your superior intelligence.
Did you just complain about being called "stupid," admit that this didn't happen, and then turn around and insult someone else's intelligence?
Well, I'm convinced . . .
I said that the word "stupid" wasn't said, it was implied. Thank you, very much.
And, I didn't insult their intelligence. If you read it, I said that they were more intelligent than myself.
I'm done with these frikken message boards. I guess I'm too sensative for all the sarcasm and snarkiness.0 -
I love this post too and agree that they are waaayyyy too many bullies on MFP, hiding behind their computer.
No kidding. You are correct but it is safe there hiding behind their computer screen.0 -
Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
Where did you?
Since you ask, my college degree has nothing to do with the medical field therefore I do not offer any medical type of advice to anyone nor do I ask it of anyone online. I stick to the true professionals (MY DOCTORS).
You should probably stay away from trainers, and anyone else who actually studied fitness and nutrition then.0 -
As long as we're confessing, I STILL don't know what TDEE is, not because I don't know how to look it up because it's probably more detail than I need.
TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure
Once you know what the letters stand for, it's a bit self-explanatory.0 -
I just want to see the post where someone said "Things are going great and I lost 35 lbs!" and someone said "Well clearly the problem is you gotta weigh your coffee creamer fatty"0
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I deleted a "friend" on here recently. This person would complain about the "idiots" that were on here who were asking for help and misguided. I deleted this person because misguided people are not idiots. In America today there is a whole lot more incorrect and unhealthy information on losing weight and becoming healthy than there is correct information. People tend to dive into what the fad is or whatever worked for someone else and then, it doesn't work. They proceed to ask for help because they are trying and they get made fun of or people are rude to them etc. I saw it first hand with the person I just referred too.
1. Help - the genuine positive supportive kind of help - is a GREAT thing.
2. Thinking that you are better than someone because you have had success and thus treating people like you are better than them is what I am talking about. These are the MFP police. The people who think that they are better than everyone else.
If you have no idea what I am talking about, that is awesome. You have not run into one yet. And, I hope that you do not have to.0 -
Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
Where did you?
Since you ask, my college degree has nothing to do with the medical field therefore I do not offer any medical type of advice to anyone nor do I ask it of anyone online. I stick to the true professionals (MY DOCTORS).
Are you aware that a doctor is not a dietician and not the best source of nutritional information?0 -
Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
Maybe you "Knowledgeable Posters" should open your Doctors Office where people can come to you for your professional educated opinion. Where did you receive your MD Degree and License to Practice?
Where did you?
Since you ask, my college degree has nothing to do with the medical field therefore I do not offer any medical type of advice to anyone nor do I ask it of anyone online. I stick to the true professionals (MY DOCTORS).
I think you are confusing medical advice and general fitness and nutrition advice. Most of the responsible posters I see here (and there are many) will often preference advice with things like "You should consult your M.D." or "Assuming you do not have a medical condition." The point being that people do seek advice on here and people do respond with their experience. Some are better at it than others, but receiving others' advice is one of the purposes of these message boards . . . well, in addition to rating the above poster on whether they'd "date, hump, or dump" them . . .0 -
As long as we're confessing, I STILL don't know what TDEE is, not because I don't know how to look it up because it's probably more detail than I need.
It's a different way of calculating your daily calorie needs, basically. For some people, using the TDEE method is easier than NEAT (the MFP) way, as you have the same goal every single day regardless of your exercise. SideSteel had a great post comparing the two and basically saying "One isn't better than the other... just different... and you need to figure out which one you are getting results with best, etc." I'll look for it.0 -
Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
It's why so many knowledgable and helpful people have left the forums or the site altogether. It takes entirely too much patience to put up with all of the anger and derp.
This is true. I've noticed a significant drop-off too.
And for those that are stuck on "credentials", they had them.0 -
I love this post too and agree that they are waaayyyy too many bullies on MFP, hiding behind their computer.
No kidding. You are correct but it is safe there hiding behind their computer screen.
I am much more forceful and condescending in person.0 -
It's not the help that most resent...it's their tone. I've been called stupid more here in the last two days than ever in my life. Starting to wonder how I ever became valedictorian of my class.
When I was in nursing school 10 years ago, the hospitals I did my clinicals in used electronic thermometers with a blue probe for oral temp and a red probe for the back door temp. The valedictorian of my nursing class didn't know the difference between the two and put the anal end in someone's mouth.
Just sayin'.0 -
I remember a specific thread you were in and no one called you stupid, but they did question your attitude about something based on an urban legend someone copied and pasted from Facebook that you were using as the basis for your own argument.It's not the help that most resent...it's their tone. I've been called stupid more here in the last two days than ever in my life. Starting to wonder how I ever became valedictorian of my class.
An urban legend that's been debunked a thousand times and has no scientific backing whatsoever.
So ... You're probably not stupid, but you may need to work on critical thinking skills. That is not people here being mean or "the MFP police."0 -
I deleted a "friend" on here recently. This person would complain about the "idiots" that were on here who were asking for help and misguided. I deleted this person because misguided people are not idiots. In America today there is a whole lot more incorrect and unhealthy information on losing weight and becoming healthy than there is correct information. People tend to dive into what the fad is or whatever worked for someone else and then, it doesn't work. They proceed to ask for help because they are trying and they get made fun of or people are rude to them etc. I saw it first hand with the person I just referred too.
1. Help - the genuine positive supportive kind of help - is a GREAT thing.
2. Thinking that you are better than someone because you have had success and thus treating people like you are better than them is what I am talking about. These are the MFP police. The people who think that they are better than everyone else.
If you have no idea what I am talking about, that is awesome. You have not run into one yet. And, I hope that you do not have to.
I personally would have liked this quite a bit more if you had started with something like this. There are a handful of intentionally unhelpful people on here but they don't usually last long. IMHO, the rest are trying their best to help and at least just not cause too many problems.0 -
I love this post too and agree that they are waaayyyy too many bullies on MFP, hiding behind their computer.
I have yet to see any bullies. Seriously, people act like there's posters that just go around picking on people because they have nothing better to do. The "bullies" most people are talking about are actually offering help (sometimes sarcastically, big whoop) to someone who has asked for it. They don't just go around peeking in diaries for the heck of it and belittling people.0 -
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I love this post too and agree that they are waaayyyy too many bullies on MFP, hiding behind their computer.
No kidding. You are correct but it is safe there hiding behind their computer screen.
I am much more forceful and condescending in person.
Hai Whierd :flowerforyou:
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Hmm. Maybe knowledgeable posters should just stop trying to help. There appears to be a lot of resentment toward their efforts. That's sad.
It's why so many knowledgable and helpful people have left the forums or the site altogether. It takes entirely too much patience to put up with all of the anger and derp.
This is true. I've noticed a significant drop-off too.
And for those that are stuck on "credentials", they had them.
QFT - the true experts won't put up with this. The one's I've had on my FL come into the forums and quickly leave.0 -
As long as we're confessing, I STILL don't know what TDEE is, not because I don't know how to look it up because it's probably more detail than I need.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf
That's a good read. Not what I was looking for, though.
In any event, people have opinions of one way over another... It's really just that... opinion. Do what works for you.0 -
Maria, now that is freakin funny
Just wanted to say that I love the original post by the author of this thread!!! SOOOO worth reading. Kinda got lost in all the responses but the point is do it your way.. **** the haters.
If you're getting results from the way that works for you good! If you are not, then maybe you should make some changes. But this is a lifestyle change and in order for it to last it has to be a change that can be done by real people
Just sayin
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I just want to see the post where someone said "Things are going great and I lost 35 lbs!" and someone said "Well clearly the problem is you gotta weigh your coffee creamer fatty"
Luckily, I have not had this happen to me..... I like to try to find a solution on my own first. So, I read. I read posts on here. I read replies to questions. And I am embarrassed that there are people on here that behave the way that some do. See, if (when) I catch my CHILDREN treating others the way some ADULTS on here treat people, there is hell to pay. So when I see adults doing this to people, it disgusts me. And a lot of the time, the people that are getting bullied are too afraid to stand up for themselves.0 -
It's not the help that most resent...it's their tone. I've been called stupid more here in the last two days than ever in my life. Starting to wonder how I ever became valedictorian of my class.
When I was in nursing school 10 years ago, the hospitals I did my clinicals in used electronic thermometers with a blue probe for oral temp and a red probe for the back door temp. The valedictorian of my nursing class didn't know the difference between the two and put the anal end in someone's mouth.
Just sayin'.
I literally lol'd0 -
As long as we're confessing, I STILL don't know what TDEE is, not because I don't know how to look it up because it's probably more detail than I need.
It's my preferred method because, frankly, I'm to lazy to be playing with figuring out how many calories I burn working out/having my calories pingpong a lot/eating 1300 calories on days I don't work out.
It's not a better method by any means, just one that works for certain people in certain situations. Also they do generally end up being very similar, intake wise.0
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