Who Eats Processed And Still Gets Good Results
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*pushes my whole food beliefs on everyone in this topic*
Who do these people think they are, having the audacity to post their beliefs about food and nutrition on a food and nutrition message board???0 -
How exactly is processed meat a better alternative than natural meat? Not in terms of IIFYM theory, I mean in terms of food quality.Better is very subjective.
Sausages and all their variants are by definition heavily processed. I'd take a loaded bratwurst over an organic grass fed steak any day. A pile of salami over a plain ol organic chicken breast.
Love a good corned beef brisket as compared to a regular brisket. I don't give a crap what the naysayers say, hot dogs are one of my favorite foods. I love honey ham on a sandwich.
Processed meats ARE the better alternative, contrary to the central point of your argument.
Anti-processing and the chemophobia that comes with it is a bunch of rubbish.
Chemicals are everywhere and every chemical is naturally occurring. Response is always dose dependant and virtually nothing 'builds up" in the body.
Being perfectly safe, having a good macro profile, and tasting better = better alternative. Sorry.
By definition, synthetic chemicals are not naturally occurring, and processed foods are loaded with them. I cannot think of any reason, why I would want to consume added chemicals, antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, and steroids. Their presence negates any enjoyment I may get out of their taste.
don't forget to insist to the doctors (if you ever find yourself in the hospital battling sickness or illness) that they NOT give you any "chemicals" that are not naturally occurring during the course of your treatment... just for the sake of intellectual consistency.0 -
I don't think one way or the other you can go wrong. If you like eating clean? EAT CLEAN (whatever that means to YOU) If you like eating dirty, eat "dirty" (again, whatever that means to you) As long as you don't demonize food to the point that if you have it "you've screwed your whole day/weekend/week etc) I don't really care how you eat. I am just glad I figured it out before "I screwed my day already..." I feel like I know where the goalposts are now and there is NOTHING that will stop me from reaching goal, cause I really can't do anything wrong other than quit moving towards it.0
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to the doctors (if you ever find yourself in the hospital battling sickness or illness) that they NOT give you any "chemicals" that are not naturally occurring during the course of your treatment... just for the sake of intellectual consistency.
All synthetic chemicals are bad, said no one.0 -
Nope. I was referred to the site by someone. I don't use Google for "research". It's almost totally useless for that now.
http://examine.com/faq/what-should-i-eat-for-weight-loss.htmlHmmmm, so i can lose weight eating whatever I want - knew that! Moderation and within calorie goal is the key. BUT shouldn't there be some restictions when trying to lose body fat % and increase LBM??? heavy lifting.....big heavy ol' weights....should be fueling with good wholesome foods right? Maybe no alcohol? Low on the sugar and this includes fruite especially one high on the glycemic index.
Eating more protein helps with preserving LBM.
http://examine.com/faq/how-much-protein-do-i-need-every-day.html
Did you find those links using Google?0 -
Me....I just buy the lean turkey deli meat that is low sodium.0
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Interesting. I suppose natural "chemicals, antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, and steroids" are just fine though?to the doctors (if you ever find yourself in the hospital battling sickness or illness) that they NOT give you any "chemicals" that are not naturally occurring during the course of your treatment... just for the sake of intellectual consistency.
All synthetic chemicals are bad, said no one.
I'm curious how you would've survived before the advent of modern refrigeration. Basically everything was preserved before then.0 -
Unless you grow it yourself and eat it raw and dirty, everything you eat is processed. Can we get off this stupid binary now?
THANK YOU! Even organic foods have pesticides on them.0 -
How exactly is processed meat a better alternative than natural meat? Not in terms of IIFYM theory, I mean in terms of food quality.Better is very subjective.
Sausages and all their variants are by definition heavily processed. I'd take a loaded bratwurst over an organic grass fed steak any day. A pile of salami over a plain ol organic chicken breast.
Love a good corned beef brisket as compared to a regular brisket. I don't give a crap what the naysayers say, hot dogs are one of my favorite foods. I love honey ham on a sandwich.
Processed meats ARE the better alternative, contrary to the central point of your argument.
Anti-processing and the chemophobia that comes with it is a bunch of rubbish.
Chemicals are everywhere and every chemical is naturally occurring. Response is always dose dependant and virtually nothing 'builds up" in the body.
Being perfectly safe, having a good macro profile, and tasting better = better alternative. Sorry.
By definition, synthetic chemicals are not naturally occurring, and processed foods are loaded with them. I cannot think of any reason, why I would want to consume added chemicals, antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, and steroids. Their presence negates any enjoyment I may get out of their taste.
Chemistry wasn't your strong point in school, eh?
We can concentrate them far more than found in nature, but by and large there are very, very, very few chemicals that are manmade that are not otherwise naturally occurring. Those few are in general extremely expensive, as easy to make chemicals are also easily made in nature. If we've figured out how to make a chemical that is stable at standard temperture and pressure,.....chances are nature has too.0 -
He knows hyper-chemistry, you just watch he'll get a Nobel prize soon!Chemistry wasn't your strong point in school, eh?0 -
IIFYM crew0
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Any people out there who still eat processed sandwich meat and yet STILL enjoy the benefits of lifting heavy and seeing amazing results? Just curious. Thanks
Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt come to mind.0 -
How exactly is processed meat a better alternative than natural meat? Not in terms of IIFYM theory, I mean in terms of food quality.Better is very subjective.
Sausages and all their variants are by definition heavily processed. I'd take a loaded bratwurst over an organic grass fed steak any day. A pile of salami over a plain ol organic chicken breast.
Love a good corned beef brisket as compared to a regular brisket. I don't give a crap what the naysayers say, hot dogs are one of my favorite foods. I love honey ham on a sandwich.
Processed meats ARE the better alternative, contrary to the central point of your argument.
Anti-processing and the chemophobia that comes with it is a bunch of rubbish.
Chemicals are everywhere and every chemical is naturally occurring. Response is always dose dependant and virtually nothing 'builds up" in the body.
Being perfectly safe, having a good macro profile, and tasting better = better alternative. Sorry.
By definition, synthetic chemicals are not naturally occurring, and processed foods are loaded with them. I cannot think of any reason, why I would want to consume added chemicals, antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, and steroids. Their presence negates any enjoyment I may get out of their taste.
By definition synthetic chemicals are not naturally occurring, yes. The rest of that sentence after the comma is not part of that definition though, nor is it strictly correct.
As for the second sentence, things like "antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, and steroids" are NOT added during processing. These, if used at all, will be used during growth of the crop/animal (and/or naturally occurring). So really not relevant to this thread.0 -
Me.
About the only 'heavy lifting' I do is my wine glass though ...0 -
http://examine.com/faq/what-should-i-eat-for-weight-loss.htmlHmmmm, so i can lose weight eating whatever I want - knew that! Moderation and within calorie goal is the key. BUT shouldn't there be some restictions when trying to lose body fat % and increase LBM??? heavy lifting.....big heavy ol' weights....should be fueling with good wholesome foods right? Maybe no alcohol? Low on the sugar and this includes fruite especially one high on the glycemic index.
Eating more protein helps with preserving LBM.
http://examine.com/faq/how-much-protein-do-i-need-every-day.html
Did you find those links using Google?
examine.com is a pretty solid site.0 -
Any people out there who still eat processed sandwich meat and yet STILL enjoy the benefits of lifting heavy and seeing amazing results? Just curious. Thanks
I tried eating unprocessed, but I lost too much weight trying to catch it and keep it between the slices of bread. When I can catch it seems like half the time unprocessed meat eats the bread before I can! Now I generally try to have the meat slaughtered and butchered before I try to make a sandwich with it.
BTW: Unprocessed grains are *way* easier to eat than unprocessed meat. Probably why the grain people can gain more weight, and do so well surviving the winters.
Please, no more fast food!0 -
Chemistry wasn't your strong point in school, eh?
No, I’m nowhere near as smart as you. I’ll tell you what, I’ll go behind the factory down the street, get a big bucket of the chemical waste that is barreled in the back, and you can drink a few cups of it. Its 100 percent natural chemicals! As long as its within your macros, you should be okay, bro…0 -
Interesting. I suppose natural "chemicals, antibiotics, pesticides, hormones, and steroids" are just fine though?
I'm curious how you would've survived before the advent of modern refrigeration. Basically everything was preserved before then.
You do realize there is a distinction between the use of these products in industrial farming versus other purposes, right?
If I didn't have a fridge available, I would need preservatives. But I do have one!!! So why would I want that crap in my food if I don't need it?0 -
Water is a harmless chemical unless you ingest too much of it. Concentration matters.
Chemistry wasn't your strong point in school, eh?
No, I’m nowhere near as smart as you. I’ll tell you what, I’ll go behind the factory down the street, get a big bucket of the chemical waste that is barreled in the back, and you can drink a few cups of it. Its 100 percent natural chemicals! As long as its within your macros, you should be okay, bro…0 -
I eat one of these for every meal!
I've seen this so many times and I still want to throw up on my computer every time :sick:0 -
Any people out there who still eat processed sandwich meat and yet STILL enjoy the benefits of lifting heavy and seeing amazing results? Just curious. Thanks
All sandwich meat is processed nitwit.0 -
I eat one of these for every meal!
I've seen this so many times and I still want to throw up on my computer every time :sick:
Meh! I'm desensitized at this point.0 -
Honestly Im prob 50/50. Love my canned soup and deli meat. I eat as many fresh foods as.I can. But I know i wouldnt last Long without some sort of processed food.0
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Almost 100 lbs lost eating anything ! Portion control is the key !0
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