Who Eats Processed And Still Gets Good Results

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  • KateK8LoseW8
    KateK8LoseW8 Posts: 824 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Nothing's wrong with it. There's also nothing wrong with choosing "unhealthy" over "healthy." I don't understand why this has to be such a hot topic around here. Whether someone eats cupcakes or carrots is not a moral issue, so why does everyone care so much?

    Also, literally everything is made out of chemicals.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Exactly! Just because you can eat something processed and still lose weight / hit your macros, why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist? Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!

    Because not everyone can afford the money or time in regards to constantly getting/cooking fresh produce and such. Also, some people can't handle raw veggies.

    I don't see what is wrong with deli meats or buying frozen...especially if it is what fits in with your time and budget.
  • mrmagee3
    mrmagee3 Posts: 518 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.
  • SarahBeth0625
    SarahBeth0625 Posts: 685 Member
    I try and buy the more natural sandwich meats... Applegate Naturals is a good brand. However, I can't always buy the best, so I do eat some other stuff too I continue to see results as it's not like it makes up ALL of my diet. I do remember to eat my apples, other fruits, and lots of steamed veggies :)
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    tl;dr is hollywood ****ed up a book in their movie adaptation. still thought the movie was better.

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  • Bry_Fitness70
    Bry_Fitness70 Posts: 2,480 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Exactly! Just because you can eat something processed and still lose weight / hit your macros, why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist? Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!
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    Sounds good, I'll take my bacon center cut, without added sodium nitrate, from a pig that didn't consume antibiotics or GMOs :smile:
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    tl;dr is hollywood ****ed up a book in their movie adaptation. still thought the movie was better.

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    sorry, I love me some sneaky cannibalism in my movies :(
  • BarbaraCarr1981
    BarbaraCarr1981 Posts: 903 Member
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    I eat one of these for every meal!

    OMFG!!!!!!!!!
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.

    I understand now. will still be using my barbecue at least 3x a week.
  • towens00
    towens00 Posts: 1,033 Member
    I just eat soylent green. High in protein and really helps build muscle.

    Processed lunch meat is horrible for you.

    Being 50lbs overweight is worse. Helps me w my protein too!

    but soylent green is people
    I have no idea what that is, lol. I just meant for me, eating my processed turkey is much healthier than the extra 50lbs I was carrying around.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Exactly! Just because you can eat something processed and still lose weight / hit your macros, why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist? Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!
    Again,
    d74e2.jpg

    Sounds good, I'll take my bacon center cut, without added sodium nitrate, from a pig that didn't consume antibiotics or GMOs :smile:

    http://ruhlman.com/2011/05/the-no-nitrites-added-hoax/
  • Bry_Fitness70
    Bry_Fitness70 Posts: 2,480 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Exactly! Just because you can eat something processed and still lose weight / hit your macros, why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist? Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!

    Because not everyone can afford the money or time in regards to constantly getting/cooking fresh produce and such. Also, some people can't handle raw veggies.

    I don't see what is wrong with deli meats or buying frozen...especially if it is what fits in with your time and budget.

    I didn't say you should never have processed meat (the vege thing was actually a joke, lol). Obviously we are limited by our budgets and schedules, so if you can't afford it or don't have the time, you eat what you can. I just said if given the choice, I'd rather have something natural.
  • m0ll3pprz
    m0ll3pprz Posts: 193 Member
    I love this thread :drinker: It makes me feel human.
  • ksuh999
    ksuh999 Posts: 543 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
    Slow roasting forms carcinogenic compounds too.

    The safest cooking process is steaming, since your food cannot get above 212F, which drastically reduces the formation of carcinogens.
  • suziepoo1984
    suziepoo1984 Posts: 915 Member
    i am a vegetarian who eats eggs. But i eat whatever i want and whenever i want. Its all about fitting in the calories. Simple!
  • Phoenix_Warrior
    Phoenix_Warrior Posts: 1,633 Member
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    Nein.
  • towens00
    towens00 Posts: 1,033 Member
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    I really do need to distinguish humor from sarcasm from crazy or stay out of the forums!! :laugh:
  • ksuh999
    ksuh999 Posts: 543 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Exactly! Just because you can eat something processed and still lose weight / hit your macros, why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist? Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!
    Again,
    d74e2.jpg

    Sounds good, I'll take my bacon center cut, without added sodium nitrate, from a pig that didn't consume antibiotics or GMOs :smile:

    http://ruhlman.com/2011/05/the-no-nitrites-added-hoax/
    Also this:

    http://examine.com/faq/are-nitrates-from-beetroot-and-processed-meats-the-same-thing.html

    So if you have a concern about nitrates in meat, eat some vegetables with it too, because even though vegetables have a nitrates too, they also have some other stuff that mitigates its effects.
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    I eat Boar's Head meats almost every day, see nothing wrong with them and I've been maintaining if not progressing in my fitness level for 9+ years now.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I don't eat processed meats because of the chemicals. There are healthy versions of all meat out there--what is wrong with choosing healthy instead of unhealthy?? It is one of the reasons why you are here.

    Exactly! Just because you can eat something processed and still lose weight / hit your macros, why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist? Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!

    Because not everyone can afford the money or time in regards to constantly getting/cooking fresh produce and such. Also, some people can't handle raw veggies.

    I don't see what is wrong with deli meats or buying frozen...especially if it is what fits in with your time and budget.

    I didn't say you should never have processed meat (the vege thing was actually a joke, lol). Obviously we are limited by our budgets and schedules, so if you can't afford it or don't have the time, you eat what you can. I just said if given the choice, I'd rather have something natural.

    You asked
    why do you actually want to when better alternatives exist?

    And I was just answering your question.

    As for my last sentence, it was more said in general frustration by those that like to look down on said processed things (meat from the deli, frozen veggies, etc).

    But to add on to that, what makes you think there are those that don't prefer the taste to frozen or processed over fresh? Some people actually do and my last sentence could also be attributed to a rebuttal to your statement:
    Fresh natural / organic meat tastes, looks, and smells so much better than any of that processed crap!
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
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    I don't know where this thread has gone but I do want to say: Spam Musubi is delicious. Spam haters are missing out.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
    Slow roasting forms carcinogenic compounds too.

    The safest cooking process is steaming, since your food cannot get above 212F, which drastically reduces the formation of carcinogens.

    "Grilling" has been done/around longer than baking or steaming so I think it'll be just fine.
  • ksuh999
    ksuh999 Posts: 543 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
    Slow roasting forms carcinogenic compounds too.

    The safest cooking process is steaming, since your food cannot get above 212F, which drastically reduces the formation of carcinogens.

    "Grilling" has been done/around longer than baking or steaming so I think it'll be just fine.
    Yes. The risk from eating grilled food is vastly overstated. I'm just stating that the person who thinks that roasting meets their definition of "safe" needs to re-think her position.
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
    Slow roasting forms carcinogenic compounds too.

    The safest cooking process is steaming, since your food cannot get above 212F, which drastically reduces the formation of carcinogens.

    "Grilling" has been done/around longer than baking or steaming so I think it'll be just fine.
    Yep, not giving up my barbecue for a steamer, yuck.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
    Slow roasting forms carcinogenic compounds too.

    The safest cooking process is steaming, since your food cannot get above 212F, which drastically reduces the formation of carcinogens.

    I will look into the part about slow roasting.
  • wewon
    wewon Posts: 838 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    Reaction from the drippings and flare ups according to Harvard Medical

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/cancer-risk-from-bbq-meat


    JUNE 2007

    Ruining a piece of meat isn’t the only thing you need to worry about if you’re cooking at high temperatures. High heat can also produce chemicals with cancer-causing properties, reports the June 2007 issue of the Harvard Health Letter.

    When meat is cooked at high temperatures, amino acids react with creatine to form heterocyclic amines, which are thought to cause cancer. That’s why cooking meat by grilling, frying, or broiling is the problem. Grilling is double trouble because it also exposes meat to cancer-causing chemicals contained in the smoke that rises from burning coals and any drips of fat that cause flare-ups. How long the meat is cooked is also a factor in heterocyclic amine formation; longer cooking time means more heterocyclic amines. Depending on the temperature at which it’s cooked, meat roasted or baked in the oven may contain some heterocyclic amines, but it’s likely to be considerably less than in grilled, fried, or broiled meat.
  • ksuh999
    ksuh999 Posts: 543 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    I believe because the charred bits are carcinogenic. It was the only true part of what she posted.

    Yeah, but those charred bits can happen either in an oven or a grill.

    No doubt. But it has less of a chance of burning when slow roasting or cooking in a liquid.

    I am not agreeing with her, just saying that what she said is factually correct.
    Slow roasting forms carcinogenic compounds too.

    The safest cooking process is steaming, since your food cannot get above 212F, which drastically reduces the formation of carcinogens.

    I will look into the part about slow roasting.
    What, you're going to roast some pork and stuff some of it into a GCMS?

    Oh no wait, you're going to Google it.
  • wewon
    wewon Posts: 838 Member
    Meat is best slow roasted or poached (cooked in liquid) instead of grilling. Grilled meat is carcinogenic.

    I don't get it. How is grilling meat more carcinogenic than slow roasting it in a gas oven?

    Reaction from the drippings and flare ups according to Harvard Medical

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_releases/cancer-risk-from-bbq-meat


    JUNE 2007

    Ruining a piece of meat isn’t the only thing you need to worry about if you’re cooking at high temperatures. High heat can also produce chemicals with cancer-causing properties, reports the June 2007 issue of the Harvard Health Letter.

    When meat is cooked at high temperatures, amino acids react with creatine to form heterocyclic amines, which are thought to cause cancer. That’s why cooking meat by grilling, frying, or broiling is the problem. Grilling is double trouble because it also exposes meat to cancer-causing chemicals contained in the smoke that rises from burning coals and any drips of fat that cause flare-ups. How long the meat is cooked is also a factor in heterocyclic amine formation; longer cooking time means more heterocyclic amines. Depending on the temperature at which it’s cooked, meat roasted or baked in the oven may contain some heterocyclic amines, but it’s likely to be considerably less than in grilled, fried, or broiled meat.

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