survey:"junk" what foods do u consider to be junk food?

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  • Kimmykakers
    Kimmykakers Posts: 17 Member
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    My pizza and liquor is my junk food...lol
  • GBPack93
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    Just non diet soda. I will never be convinced this is worth fitting into a diet even IIFYM
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
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    Anything highly processed, cookies, ice cream, chips, takeout foods are high in salt and sugar so they are big no no.
    the list goes on, but as long as you eat grains fruit veg mainly, bit of meat and fish, poultry and dairy, and only occasional sweet in a week, id say you shouldn't worry too much
    I have ice cream and chips and processed food every day. Why are they a big no no? What is wrong with salt and sugar? Until I hear properly sourced evidence that any of that is unhealthy for me, I will continue doing what I am doing, which is not worrying one bit about sugar/salt/processed food, losing weight on a sustainable calorie deficit and exercising, all while NOT depriving myself. I want a plan I can live with forever.

    If you want "scientific proof" quit eating anything processed for 2 weeks then *kitten* how you feel when you start back up. No difference, then no big deal...big difference, then there's your scientific evidence.

    That's not scientific proof. Your body adjusts to your diet. I could take fast food out of my diet for two weeks, put it back in and might be sick because my body isn't used to the food itself.

    This is also why foreign foods can have an ill effect on people. There's nothing wrong with the food, just your body isn't used to breaking it down.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
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    all cheese is organic.

    all milk is organic.

    in fact, all food is organic because it all comes from previously living things.

    Words can have more than one meaning, you know.

    do you mean like "clean" or "toxins" or "inflammation"?

    :laugh:
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    I tend to stay away from high sodium and man made chemicals. I just don't feel great after I eat a hot dog or boxed macaroni and cheese, etc. Will I eat organic hot dog or homemade mac & cheese? YUP!

    that must be very difficult when your doctor prescribes medicine for you.

    You are possibly the most literal person I have ever come accross! I would expect any logical person to jump to the conclusion that I was referring to "food additives", since I didn't bring up the subject of medications and this is a WEIGHT LOSS FORUM where we disuss food, not a medical blog.

    And, BTW, it is a very rare instance that I have to take medications of any kind. I hardly ever get sick anymore...

    Not sure why you were expecting this, since your initial statement sounded irrational to begin with.

    OK, I will be more specific. Instead of eating thoes glowing orange elbow noodles out of a box (which tastes a bit like the box itself) - I would rather boil water, add a good quality pasta, melt some organic cheese with some organic milk, and perhaps a little butter from a local dairy, a touch of sea salt, mix that all together and enjoy every last bite of it without swelling up like a Macy's parade balloon.

    Worst Mac n cheese recipe ever. Sauce would be way to thin without a roux
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
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    Friggin sea salt.

    I'm sorry is that NaCl or not?
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Chips, candy, baked goods, french fries (especially cheese fries), blooming onion, that type of thing. Anything overly greasy and fried or with little offer other nutritionally other than sugar or flour, or just ridiculously high in fat and calories.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    I tend to stay away from high sodium and man made chemicals. I just don't feel great after I eat a hot dog or boxed macaroni and cheese, etc. Will I eat organic hot dog or homemade mac & cheese? YUP!

    that must be very difficult when your doctor prescribes medicine for you.

    If you make mac and cheese at home or cook in general....isn't that man made "chemicals" as heating/cooling things creates chemical reactions?


    Really? Is that whay you think I meant?

    OK, I will be more specific. Instead of eating thoes glowing orange elbow noodles out of a box (which tastes a bit like the box itself) - I would rather boil water, add a good quality pasta, melt some organic cheese with some organic milk, and perhaps a little butter from a local dairy, a touch of sea salt, mix that all together and enjoy every last bite of it without swelling up like a Macy's parade balloon.

    You think there's no chemicals in organic food?


    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/998983-misconceptions-of-organic-food-s

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/996243-still-think-eating-organic-isn-t-worth-it
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Here's a, partial, list of substances allowed by the USDA to be used on food and still be labeled "Organic", which includes pesticides:

    (a) As algicide, disinfectants, and sanitizer, including irrigation system cleaning systems.

    (1) Alcohols.

    (i) Ethanol.

    (ii) Isopropanol.

    (2) Chlorine materials—For pre-harvest use, residual chlorine levels in the water in direct crop contact or as water from cleaning irrigation systems applied to soil must not exceed the maximum residual disinfectant limit under the Safe Drinking Water Act, except that chlorine products may be used in edible sprout production according to EPA label directions.

    (i) Calcium hypochlorite.

    (ii) Chlorine dioxide.

    (iii) Sodium hypochlorite.

    (3) Copper sulfate—for use as an algicide in aquatic rice systems, is limited to one application per field during any 24-month period. Application rates are limited to those which do not increase baseline soil test values for copper over a timeframe agreed upon by the producer and accredited certifying agent.

    (4) Hydrogen peroxide.

    (5) Ozone gas—for use as an irrigation system cleaner only.

    (6) Peracetic acid—for use in disinfecting equipment, seed, and asexually propagated planting material.

    (7) Soap-based algicide/demossers.

    (8) Sodium carbonate peroxyhydrate (CAS #-15630-89-4)—Federal law restricts the use of this substance in food crop production to approved food uses identified on the product label.

    (b) As herbicides, weed barriers, as applicable.

    (1) Herbicides, soap-based—for use in farmstead maintenance (roadways, ditches, right of ways, building perimeters) and ornamental crops.

    (2) Mulches.

    (i) Newspaper or other recycled paper, without glossy or colored inks.

    (ii) Plastic mulch and covers (petroleum-based other than polyvinyl chloride (PVC)).

    (c) As compost feedstocks—Newspapers or other recycled paper, without glossy or colored inks.

    (d) As animal repellents—Soaps, ammonium—for use as a large animal repellant only, no contact with soil or edible portion of crop.

    (e) As insecticides (including acaricides or mite control).

    (1) Ammonium carbonate—for use as bait in insect traps only, no direct contact with crop or soil.

    (2) Aqueous potassium silicate (CAS #-1312-76-1)—the silica, used in the manufacture of potassium silicate, must be sourced from naturally occurring sand.

    (3) Boric acid—structural pest control, no direct contact with organic food or crops.

    (4) Copper sulfate—for use as tadpole shrimp control in aquatic rice production, is limited to one application per field during any 24-month period. Application rates are limited to levels which do not increase baseline soil test values for copper over a timeframe agreed upon by the producer and accredited certifying agent.

    (5) Elemental sulfur.

    (6) Lime sulfur—including calcium polysulfide.

    (7) Oils, horticultural—narrow range oils as dormant, suffocating, and summer oils.

    (8) Soaps, insecticidal.

    (9) Sticky traps/barriers.

    (10) Sucrose octanoate esters (CAS #s—42922-74-7; 58064-47-4)—in accordance with approved labeling.

    (f) As insect management. Pheromones.

    (g) As rodenticides. Vitamin D3 .

    (h) As slug or snail bait. Ferric phosphate (CAS # 10045-86-0).

    (i) As plant disease control.

    (1) Aqueous potassium silicate (CAS #-1312-76-1)—the silica, used in the manufacture of potassium silicate, must be sourced from naturally occurring sand.

    (2) Coppers, fixed—copper hydroxide, copper oxide, copper oxychloride, includes products exempted from EPA tolerance, Provided, That, copper-based materials must be used in a manner that minimizes accumulation in the soil and shall not be used as herbicides.

    (3) Copper sulfate—Substance must be used in a manner that minimizes accumulation of copper in the soil.

    (4) Hydrated lime.

    (5) Hydrogen peroxide.

    (6) Lime sulfur.

    (7) Oils, horticultural, narrow range oils as dormant, suffocating, and summer oils.

    (8) Peracetic acid—for use to control fire blight bacteria.

    (9) Potassium bicarbonate.

    (10) Elemental sulfur.

    (11) Streptomycin, for fire blight control in apples and pears only until October 21, 2014.

    (12) Tetracycline, for fire blight control in apples and pears only until October 21, 2014.

    (j) As plant or soil amendments.

    (1) Aquatic plant extracts (other than hydrolyzed)—Extraction process is limited to the use of potassium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide; solvent amount used is limited to that amount necessary for extraction.

    (2) Elemental sulfur.

    (3) Humic acids—naturally occurring deposits, water and alkali extracts only.

    (4) Lignin sulfonate—chelating agent, dust suppressant.

    (5) Magnesium sulfate—allowed with a documented soil deficiency.

    (6) Micronutrients—not to be used as a defoliant, herbicide, or desiccant. Those made from nitrates or chlorides are not allowed. Soil deficiency must be documented by testing.

    (i) Soluble boron products.

    (ii) Sulfates, carbonates, oxides, or silicates of zinc, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum, selenium, and cobalt.

    (7) Liquid fish products—can be pH adjusted with sulfuric, citric or phosphoric acid. The amount of acid used shall not exceed the minimum needed to lower the pH to 3.5.

    (8) Vitamins, B1 , C, and E.

    (9) Sulfurous acid (CAS # 7782-99-2) for on-farm generation of substance utilizing 99% purity elemental sulfur per paragraph (j)(2) of this section.

    (k) As plant growth regulators. Ethylene gas—for regulation of pineapple flowering.

    (l) As floating agents in postharvest handling.

    (1) Lignin sulfonate.

    (2) Sodium silicate—for tree fruit and fiber processing.

    (m) As synthetic inert ingredients as classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), for use with nonsynthetic substances or synthetic substances listed in this section and used as an active pesticide ingredient in accordance with any limitations on the use of such substances.

    (1) EPA List 4—Inerts of Minimal Concern.

    (2) EPA List 3—Inerts of unknown toxicity—for use only in passive pheromone dispensers.

    (n) Seed preparations. Hydrogen chloride (CAS # 7647-01-0)—for delinting cotton seed for planting.

    (o) As production aids. Microcrystalline cheesewax (CAS #'s 64742-42-3, 8009-03-08, and 8002-74-2)-for use in log grown mushroom production. Must be made without either ethylene-propylene co-polymer or synthetic colors.

    http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=08ed863d93110c01cb0728f8070a052f&rgn=div8&view=text&node=7:3.1.1.9.32.7.354.2&idno=7
  • iboulder
    iboulder Posts: 3 Member
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    Anything with more than 5 ingredients.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Anything with more than 5 ingredients.

    No salads or mixed vegetables, bummer.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    I tend to stay away from high sodium and man made chemicals. I just don't feel great after I eat a hot dog or boxed macaroni and cheese, etc. Will I eat organic hot dog or homemade mac & cheese? YUP!

    that must be very difficult when your doctor prescribes medicine for you.

    If you make mac and cheese at home or cook in general....isn't that man made "chemicals" as heating/cooling things creates chemical reactions?

    But did man make the chemical reaction, or did the heat?
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,741 Member
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    Chips, candy, cookies,cake, pie, bread, sweetened beverages including bottled juices, anything with added sugar, anything with hydrogenated oils, pancakes, donuts, individual packets of sweetened oatmeal, cured meats, french fries, pasta, batter fried anything.

    Mostly agree with the list above although to me bread, pancakes, and pasta are not junk food whatsoever. There may be junky versions of these but in general I do NOT consider them junk.

    Cookies, cake and pie are in that grey area...not healthy choices most of them, but you can make "lighter" and more wholesome versions.

    However if it's super processed with a million additives then yes.
  • tmpecus78
    tmpecus78 Posts: 1,206 Member
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    nothing