Another Mom under fire for post baby selfie.
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If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.0 -
Some have hinted at it, but I don't think anyone has actually said it...
...so I will.
I'm predicting this is a fake. Oh, sure, it's a real pic, but I don't think this was 4 days postpartum.
There...I said it.
http://instagram.com/fotballfrue
She has pictures of her self still preggo on the 23rd, pictures of the new baby on the 26th (saying she gave birth the day before), and then the 'obscene war shot' picture on the 28th, so.
3 days-5days, assuming you believe she wasn't stringing out preggo pictures for the sake of some big reveal.
Wow. She really doesn't look to me like she gained the recommended 25 lbs. But as long as the baby was healthy, who am I to judge?0 -
She only gained 24 lbs by following a very strict diet
And this. Our bodies need to be free to do what they do during pregnancy. The sad thing is, they found during WWII that a starving woman will produce a healthy baby. It's only when they are in their 30s that the heart problems start.
Totally agree with you. I happen to know that my friend cared more about what her body was going to look like after she had the baby, than that she give birth to a healthy baby. I never said anything to her about it, but it did make me sad at the time.
I also met a model who chose to give birth via a planned C section so she wouldn't have to get 'too big' and chose not to breast feed so her breasts could stay perky. She told me all of this in the waiting room of the obstetrician's office. She was rail thin and hanging onto a plump one month old baby. At first I was judgmental, but then I realized that she was protecting her career. Maybe it was her only source of income.
That's fine. It's her body, her baby and her choices. But a strict diet during pregnancy / planned preterm delivery isn't healthy for the mom or the baby and shouldn't be promoted as an ideal for maternity.
Hahahaha!!! Is that what you think I am doing? Promoting a strict diet during pregnancy?! :noway: :laugh:
Not at all.0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Unless you haven't looked at her instagram...
...and then there is a reason to think the picture is fake....
...even if it's an apparently bogus reason.0 -
I'm not really following the thread, but we are saying that this pic could have been taken 4 weeks after birth, not 4 days. That would not take a ton of work to delay it that way. If it is 4 days, wow. But, we are just saying that there are biological processes of the uterus needing to shrink (it has nothing to do with fitness level).
This would entail that she's been 'lying' since day one and is, even now, putting out pictures of her infant daughter on facebook/instagram/her website a month after they were taken and that no one has spoken up and said 'those are actually four weeks old'.
Even though there are pictures of her and her husband with the infant putting up a christmas tree, out at what seems to be a pretty public cafe, and with other people.0 -
First of all, that's amazing. I was still swollen for the epidural and looked like **** generally at four days after giving birth. Hell, I still looked like crap until about 10 months after, when all my hard work started showing.
I'm not sure I see the issue with this photo. She's proud. She's not being obnoxious like the woman who said "what's your excuse?" which made it all about what the viewer of the photo felt instead of how she felt about her own body. (Before anyone tries to cook and eat me alive for saying that: I'm not saying the "what's your excuse?" woman deserved the level of vitrol she got by any means, just that she was obnoxious about her accomplishments. It's an annoying move to throw up a photo of yourself, showing off a great accomplishment saying "why didn't you achieve this?" no matter how universal you might think that ideal is.)
She's hot and that's maybe not the most important thing in life, but it's cool and she has the right to be proud of the work she puts in to maintain her body.
An act of war? Eff that noise. Slightly annoying? Maybe, but I like people who like themselves and actively work to improve themselves.0 -
I'm just having a hard time figuring out how she felt so great 4 days after birth that she is not rocking the granny panties and fleece PJs. I didn't wear panties like that for weeks after having my kids, and not because of my big butt and thighs, even though they were huge.
I'm impressed, and yes jealous too.
Yeah, I didn't wear panties like that 4 days after giving birth because I was still bleeding profusely.
That's kinda what I was thinking. lol I say good for her! I wish I looked like that...but I have not put the time into myself to look like that.
And I HATE the word selfie. I just think it's stupid.0 -
She looks amazing jealous lil petty people being stupid.0
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Body shaming is ugly either way you slice it. Although I am a little upset about Maria's statement about plus-sized ladies and lingere. It is not okay for a plus size lady to love herself?0
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I can tell she doesnt have a 4 day olf becausr of a few small clues!
1. She is awake
2. She isnt holding the baby
3. She has makeup on
4. She has her hair done
5. Her boobs arent falling out of her bra
6. She doesnt have black rings under her eyes
7. She looks as if she has showered recently
8. She has no puke or poop on her
9. Did i mention shes awake
10. She is obviously not wearing one if those giant diaper like pads you have to wear after birth!
You couldnt fool me!
As for the body...kudos, looks great!
Every now and then someone posts something reminding me why I invest in the kind of birth control that lasts for years, then immediately follow it up with more birth control that lasts for years, and continue to pester my doctor about tubal ligation. The exception that one must be tired and unkempt, or else they 'don't have a newborn'/are some manner of freak of nature is pretty gross.
Dare I say as gross as this supposed trend towards not looking as if one has given birth? :indifferent:
Now that you mention it, this thread is kinda making me want to renew my birth control. :sick:
Got a vasectomy. My wife will never have to worry about that! Whoop whoop!0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Except is 4 days enough time for her uterus to contract? It very well might be for her, but it normally takes WEEKS. I think that alone is room for some speculation.0 -
I can tell she doesnt have a 4 day olf becausr of a few small clues!
1. She is awake
2. She isnt holding the baby
3. She has makeup on
4. She has her hair done
5. Her boobs arent falling out of her bra
6. She doesnt have black rings under her eyes
7. She looks as if she has showered recently
8. She has no puke or poop on her
9. Did i mention shes awake
10. She is obviously not wearing one if those giant diaper like pads you have to wear after birth!
You couldnt fool me!
As for the body...kudos, looks great!
Every now and then someone posts something reminding me why I invest in the kind of birth control that lasts for years, then immediately follow it up with more birth control that lasts for years, and continue to pester my doctor about tubal ligation. The exception that one must be tired and unkempt, or else they 'don't have a newborn'/are some manner of freak of nature is pretty gross.
Dare I say as gross as this supposed trend towards not looking as if one has given birth? :indifferent:
Now that you mention it, this thread is kinda making me want to renew my birth control. :sick:
Got a vasectomy. My wife will never have to worry about that! Whoop whoop!
I tried to get my husband on board with this and at first he was all 'okay' but then we finally got an appointment made and he backed out. The wuss.
So now I have to step up and get the job done. /sigh0 -
My question for her would be whether she had a healthy pregnancy weight wise, I mean women are supposed to gain weight while they are pregnant.
25 pounds for a healthy pregnancy. Some of that goes away at birth.
You don't actually need to "eat for 2" when pregnant, you require only an extra 200-300 calories a day.
I would assume that since her baby is healthy, she had a healthy pregnancy.
Now, I am not saying that women should only gain 25 pounds, or that they should look like her, or anything like that.
What I am saying is that IT'S OKAY TO LOOK LIKE THAT. She doesn't look like that to offend people.
I have really long hair, a lot of women don't have long hair. If I post a picture of my hair, it's not to offend short haired women. Dumb analogy, I know.
I didn't gain weight when I was pregnant, I lost weight actually (went from 243 to 219) and honestly didn't change too much of my eating, just ate a little less and was moving more. Had no morning sickness or nothing (didn't know I was preggo until I was 6 and a 1/2 weeks), I even went to college classes and started my job at the paper.
I haven't worn underwear like that because I don't feel sexy enough to (I will say it bluntly), and even if I could have, I wouldn't have after giving birth, I was bleeding for 2 and a 1.2 weeks after and then had my lovely TOM about 2 weeks after that.
She should be proud of the work she has put in. I started working out intensely as soon as I had the all clear at 6 weeks and ran my first 5k in June of 2012 (mind you there was I wanna say 3 to 4 months between 6 weeks pp and my first 5k), and now i have my dance minor, weight lifting, running, and Insanity.
I do get strange looks from those that are 18 and up in my class. All of them complain about their age, and I say "I'm still older." they look at me and when I tell I am 25, have an almost 2 year old and am married, the looks=priceless :laugh:0 -
I'm not gonna read the whole thread right now but bump it for later with the thought that I am aware there is this thing where women try to give birth early and try to get a Dr. to plan an early c-section or induced birth to prevent growing too large in the belly for vanity reasons. That is bad. IMO. Unsure how much media coverage and posts contribute to that practice but that's just the idea that popped into my head when I saw that this is a recurring theme amongst new mothers...the posting of selfies.
ETA: I have a friend who just gave birth and her FB is a tasteful (and more to the heart of the matter) pregnant belly with a blue bow as background and then pic of her kissing her newborn imposed over that image in the foreground. It's beatiful IMO and highlights to me what new motherhood is all about. At least amongst my set. *shrugs*0 -
I can tell she doesnt have a 4 day olf becausr of a few small clues!
1. She is awake
2. She isnt holding the baby
3. She has makeup on
4. She has her hair done
5. Her boobs arent falling out of her bra
6. She doesnt have black rings under her eyes
7. She looks as if she has showered recently
8. She has no puke or poop on her
9. Did i mention shes awake
10. She is obviously not wearing one if those giant diaper like pads you have to wear after birth!
You couldnt fool me!
As for the body...kudos, looks great!
Every now and then someone posts something reminding me why I invest in the kind of birth control that lasts for years, then immediately follow it up with more birth control that lasts for years, and continue to pester my doctor about tubal ligation. The exception that one must be tired and unkempt, or else they 'don't have a newborn'/are some manner of freak of nature is pretty gross.
Dare I say as gross as this supposed trend towards not looking as if one has given birth? :indifferent:
Now that you mention it, this thread is kinda making me want to renew my birth control. :sick:
Got a vasectomy. My wife will never have to worry about that! Whoop whoop!
I tried to get my husband on board with this and at first he was all 'okay' but then we finally got an appointment made and he backed out. The wuss.
So now I have to step up and get the job done. /sigh
Do you not realize that you have...
...leverage in this negotiation, er, I mean, discussion?0 -
I am a postpartum nurse, and I have had 4 children as well. This picture does not convey someone who has an infant 4 days old. The uterus is at the level of the umbilicus right after birth and takes six weeks to shrink back down to its original size (about the size of your fist). She should also be wearing a pad as she would be bleeding from childbirth. She has a nice body, but it is not 4 days after giving birth.0
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If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Except is 4 days enough time for her uterus to contract? It very well might be for her, but it normally takes WEEKS. I think that alone is room for some speculation.
Not that unbelievable in her case. She carried really tiny. In a pic from a week or so before the birth she only looked 5 months along.0 -
She has a nice body, but it is not 4 days after giving birth.
Oh? So it's just a big conspiracy. Her thousands of photos on Instagram are actually all delayed by three months.
Come on people.0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Except is 4 days enough time for her uterus to contract? It very well might be for her, but it normally takes WEEKS. I think that alone is room for some speculation.
Not that unbelievable in her case. She carried really tiny. In a pic from a week or so before the birth she only looked 5 months along.
This happens to ppl. I had a friend like this. Man I got a lot of friends. I swear I'm leaving this thread though, till tomorrow. For reals!0 -
I think it's not even her baby.
Maybe she pulled a Beyonce, yo!0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Except is 4 days enough time for her uterus to contract? It very well might be for her, but it normally takes WEEKS. I think that alone is room for some speculation.
Not that unbelievable in her case. She carried really tiny. In a pic from a week or so before the birth she only looked 5 months along.
Agree, she looked small on the 4th November, which probably explains why it is her belly looks the way it does now, supposedly. She may also have a tilted uterus, which could account for the lack of projection, if her's veered towards her back vs her front. On the 4th November, many would assume that she was between 3 to 4 months along, which is known as the stage pre-dropping and as the photos attest to ~ she carried her bundle low.
She reminds me of Jinjee the RawVegan [see attached : http://jinjeetalifero.com/?p=798]
Jinjee 7 and a half months pregnant with Adagio - Raw Vegan Pregnancy
Jinjee 10 days after raw vegan pregnancy and delivery, with baby Adagio.
Jinjee with Baby Yarrow ~ Age 40 ~ 10 days after birthing.
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The days when mum had to worry about her teenage daughters posting provocative pictures of themselves online have changed. Now kids can grow up a little worried that the world has seen an almost naked mum go viral.
The pic isn't offensive. Its a picture of a skinny chic in her underwear. I see pictures like that all the time.
I just hope that no matter how fit (or unfit) I am, I remember to keep it classy and never share pics on the net that I wouldn't want my nanna to see.0 -
Holy MOTHER!!! So much controversy. All I was saying is.....her panties look a little too flat to be holding the giant diaper sized pad you have to wear for a good week!
If anyone couldn't tell, I was possibly....eh being a bit sarcastic and humorous about the whole thing!
I surely didn't look like that 4 days after I gave birth...but I also didn't look like that before hand either! :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:I can tell she doesnt have a 4 day olf becausr of a few small clues!
1. She is awake
2. She isnt holding the baby
3. She has makeup on
4. She has her hair done
5. Her boobs arent falling out of her bra
6. She doesnt have black rings under her eyes
7. She looks as if she has showered recently
8. She has no puke or poop on her
9. Did i mention shes awake
10. She is obviously not wearing one if those giant diaper like pads you have to wear after birth!
You couldnt fool me!
As for the body...kudos, looks great!
Every now and then someone posts something reminding me why I invest in the kind of birth control that lasts for years, then immediately follow it up with more birth control that lasts for years, and continue to pester my doctor about tubal ligation. The exception that one must be tired and unkempt, or else they 'don't have a newborn'/are some manner of freak of nature is pretty gross.
Dare I say as gross as this supposed trend towards not looking as if one has given birth? :indifferent:
She probably is fairly unusual, an outlier or, pejoratively, a freak. I don't have any stats or studies, just my personal experience and what I'm going to perilously assume is fairly common... most women don't feel up to much more than just taking care of the baby the first week.
When you're bleeding like your worst TOM ever for the first week after, when you're getting up every couple of hours to change and feed, when your breasts hurt so badly that you cry out if you jar them at all, when just the act of going to the bathroom is both painful (don't even get me started on that first post birth poo) and time consuming, it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to think that most women might not have the additional energy to wear makeup or look overly cheery for a few days.
Now going through that doesn't make us martyr's or anything but a few days of less than top notch grooming should be allowed and even expected.
Analogy time!
Do people get all dressed up and gussied up when they have the flu? Or do they wear PJs, do very little with their hair and just do what they need to recover. Some people do, most don't. Personally, I'd rather deal with flu symptoms than the first week after birth anytime. One doesn't have a screaming newborn associated with it.
I can only speak from my own observations, as centered on my mother, but I can't recall any unkempt moments. With the most recent sibling, who is now five to my 26, my mother was back at work in a week. When she had the twins, who are now 13, she was home for 3 weeks, but was as properly dressed as she always was.
My mother is no genetic freak, or anything like that, she's just really type A. While that may not be how the majority of people are, I don't think it's so strange that women who are that way are extreme cases, or should have it subtly implied that their priorities are out of line. Which you didn't do, I'm just speaking of the reactions she's gotten in general.0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Unless you haven't looked at her instagram...
...and then there is a reason to think the picture is fake....
...even if it's an apparently bogus reason.
Right, we didn't all look at it. And it's kind of my MO to be skeptical about internet memes. It's served me well in life, usually.0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Unless you haven't looked at her instagram...
...and then there is a reason to think the picture is fake....
...even if it's an apparently bogus reason.
Right we didn't all look at it. And it's kind of my MO to be skeptical about internet memes.
I think skepticism is a reasonable starting point for...well, most things.0 -
If you look at her Instagram, she posts pictures of her progressing pregnancy all the way up until 11/23. Then there are pics of her newborn starting 11/26. The pic in question is posted 11/28.
And if you scroll back and look at the pics of her stomach before she was pregnant, they look *markedly* different.
There's really no reason to think the picture is fake.
Unless you haven't looked at her instagram...
...and then there is a reason to think the picture is fake....
...even if it's an apparently bogus reason.
Right we didn't all look at it. And it's kind of my MO to be skeptical about internet memes. Go figure.
I think skepticism is a reasonable starting point for...well, most things.
Mmmhmm. And if sometimes we are wrong, well not much harm done.0 -
I think there's a good chance that she may have sacrificed the health of her baby during pregnancy to ensure that she had this figure after her delivery. There are many women who are afraid of getting "fat" during pregnancy, and don't eat like they're supposed to. I wouldn't "bash" her for it though. Yeah, she looks great, and I hope her baby wasn't starving in there. Lolol.0
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My cousin's wife decided during her second pregnancy that she wanted a perfect postpartum body. She dieted and worked out like a fiend throughout her pregnancy, especially running and endless ab work. I think she did get the body... but her daughter wasn't so lucky. The poor kid had spinal deformities among other serious health problems, and had to spend her first several years in back braces. Doctors said it was because of the exercise. They had warned her during the pregnancy. So I have the same issue with this trend. Not saying women should stop exercising during pregnancy -- not at all. I kept dancing until I was too big to keep my balance, and I admire the pregnant women who lift safely. But when your vanity is more important than the child you're carrying, that's a problem in my book.This is not something to be jealous of, it is not as if a woman 4 days postpartum is allowed to diet or exercise. I didn't care what I looked like for about a month, I was more concerned about the ability to climb stairs to my bedroom.
The only issue that I have with this trend is that women are being shamed into trying to make their bodies look as if they had never had a child. That is so sad to me. I am proud of being able to do an amazing thing with my body. I do exercise and diet- but I never am ashamed of stretch-marks, or a little pouch up front, or the fact that my hips have gotten a tad wider.
Why is it so shameful to look as if you had birthed a child?0 -
I was figuring she worked out really hard during the pregnancy as well0
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I am a postpartum nurse, and I have had 4 children as well. This picture does not convey someone who has an infant 4 days old. The uterus is at the level of the umbilicus right after birth and takes six weeks to shrink back down to its original size (about the size of your fist). She should also be wearing a pad as she would be bleeding from childbirth. She has a nice body, but it is not 4 days after giving birth.
Exactly, our skepticism on this is warranted. It's not our opinion on what's possible with her fitness. It's just 4 days does not fit with our general understanding of biology.0
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