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Santa!?!?! I hate the lie!
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I know that some Christians don't believe in telling or practicing the story of Santa Claus because they think of it as being 'fake' and not the real reason for Christmas. I chose to let mine believe because of all the gifts that were brought to Jesus when he was born. Also St. Nicholas was a real person, who gave gifts to the poor. I also taught my kids that Christmas was more about GIVING than getting and they grew up just fine. Of course when they got older, they found out that Santa wasn't 'real' and were a bit disappointed, but it wasn't a big deal! They will have bigger disappointments in life to deal with later. The excitement is about the giving and receiving with gratitude and they knew that.
I'll also add that when my son was 5 and older kids at school told him Santa wasn't real, I just told him that some people believe and some don't, and left it at that. Eventually his older sisters showed him my Santa 'stash' in our camper, so he knew for real.
Now they all have their own children, Santa AND Jesus is in their lives too.
Don't sweat it, let them believe.
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Ew. Get over yourself, seriously.
So, because your parents were brutally honest they had a better marriage? Is it really that simple? No, it isn't. And insinuating that those of us who came from divorced and/or cheating homes were not raised with honesty, or do not recognize the importance of honesty is as insulting as it is wrong.
To the person who posed the question about Dad banging his secretary....
Been there as a kid, Got the honest story at a very young age from both parents. Not the best experience then and still repairing the damage now.That's still much better than the alternative of you believing in Santa till you were 6....
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You're so right. Had I known Santa was to blame this whole time I could have saved a lot of money on therapy....darn. :flowerforyou:0 -
Protecting little ones is NOT the same as telling them lies. Don't be absurd.
Semantics! Lying by omission is still a lie and although we are friends I think you are being extremely judgmental, condescending and frankly you are being absurd.0 -
Why bother celebrating it at all? It's essentially meaningless.
its like valentines day lol money making scam. i just like to spend time with my family or in this years case time with my bf. and yes the odd present is nice but i don't expect anything off anyone because i havnt got anyone else anything0 -
But only Catholics have saints and Catholics are evil pagans who worship idols and not real Christians.
Therefore, Santa = Satan.
I consider myself a saint and I'm not Catholic.0 -
1. Christmas has nothing to do with Christ. It's a pagan holiday celebrating hunting and sex. Christian Kings several hundred years ago made up the lie that it was Jesus' birthday because it was easier to get pagans to convert to Christianity by letting them keep their holiday.
2. X "fixes" nothing, as the X in "Xmas" stands for the Greek letter Chi, which is a common abbreviation for Christ.
Not sure of your point, and not sure if you were actually trying to teach me something? Either way.....1. yes 2. yes, but that is not the common belief/meaning of the X among the masses.0 -
Honestly I don't like all the lying to kids thing either. I try to keep it to a minimum. No elf on the shelf or black mailing them to behave.0
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The flaw is in your second sentence. While you aren't a parent, the poster is. There are consequences to the child either way, and the parent must deal with them. Simply "defaulting" to "the truth" isn't a no-impact solution. Kids aren't merely small adults, and each one is pretty much unique....0
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How on earth did a post about a 3 yr old and the truth of Santa get turned into this?
Good grief, people, LIGHTEN UP! :flowerforyou:
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Let your kids be kids, let them believe in the magic of Christmas! They'll grow up and be dissapointed a whole lot with life in general, let them enjoy their childhood while they can 0
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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.~ George Bernard Shaw
Santa! Santa!0 -
Oh, I don't doubt that. TBH, much of my ranting has just be reacting to idiotic attacks on the OP. When people get like that, I give them a taste of their own medicine. They never like it. :laugh:
The OP can, obviously, do what she wants. I just find this whole debate very sad. Equating letting kids believe in something like Santa to lynig makes me sad.
When I was little, I really and truly believed there was a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow and that unicorns existed. Sometimes, I still believe those things. I see Santa as something similar. Is it really a lie?
And then I see so many adults with no sense of humor or adventure or ... I don't know. Something is lacking. And I didn't know until recent years that there were families who celebrated Christmas and didn't allow Santa in their homes, but now I do and it explains a lot.
Obviously, it isn't about Santa specifically, since non-Christians for the most part wouldn't have used that. Half my family is Jewish, so I really do know this. It's the idea of stomping on that innocent wonder and belief that bothers me and it makes me want to cry.0 -
1. So it's okay to teach your child it's okay lie?
2. You expect your child to trust you?
3. Why not just teach them the truth, It;s about GOD
4. A creepy fat guy watching us all year long, then coming down our chimney eating our food and leaving. CREEPY! (and what if you don't have a chimney)
5. It's bribery, if you were are a good parent you wouldn't need to use gifts as a way to get your child to behave all year long.
6. I work to give my child those girts, why let some imaginary guy get the credit for my hard work and time.
7. it's NOT the reason for the season.
8. It's makes it all about getting gifts, instead of giving them.
9. How do you explain to your kid that Santa was in that store, but somehow is in the very next you also?
10. If your feeling bad about it it, maybe that's continence trying to tell you something.
11. my lil girl doesn't believe in it and she have never gotten picked on , i have a feeling thats YOUR OWN fear, projecting into your child's life, bc just maybe they don't just "go with the flow".
12. I would hate to be you on judgment day, trying to explain why you gave some made up guy the glory in time the was dedicated to God.
13. it does not deprive them of anything by not telling them a LIE. it teaches them gratitude for the hard work you put into giving them gifts,
14. how old is that guy anyway?!?!?!?
15. you dont t3ell your child that the Disney characters are real, why would you tell them santa is real?
i know i came off harsh, but it was all said in love.
what does me pooping have to do with telling my children about santa?
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I didn't want to do Santa with my first, but did after awhile everyone convinced me I should. I am very glad I did. She loved Christmas and the magic of Santa, and when she was older we explained everything to her. She started questioning Santa at 6 and at 8 we told her the story of St. Nick. She was not crushed to learn the truth and now helps be Santa for her little brother.
^^^ this
a boy at school told me that Santa wasn't real when I was six, he said the presents came from my parents, and they just pretended that they came from Santa (I wasn't upset, because it seemed more logical than a man with magic reindeer trying to get down the heating vent because our house didn't have a chimney). What he said made logical sense to me, so I stopped believing in Santa. However, when I told my mum I didn't believe in Santa, while she was talking to a neighbour, the neighbour said that if I didn't believe in Santa I wouldn't get any present. So I carried on pretending to believe in Santa to get presents until I was twelve, when it was just a case of both sides abandoning any pretense of believing in Santa, but I still got a Christmas stocking anyway, so no complaints at all really....
I don't think it's going to be the case that kids are crushed when they find out that Santa isn't real. I think they just need reassurance that they'll still get their presents even though he's not real. However, it's probably age dependent... I wouldn't expect a three year old to have the same logical approach to "Santa doesn't exist but that's cool because I still get presents" that you'd expect from a six or seven year old.0 -
I love how everyone is saying its about a childs imagination, and probably will be buying them a ps4 or other electronic play system for xmas. If you want a child to have a child-like imagination, you dont have to do it with a lie you can just give them a box and tell them to play outside. We didnt celebrate xmas and I had a wild imagination as a child, but I was only allowed to play the nintendo for a hour, and my bro sis and I had to split the hour umongst us. Since I was the baby I got a good 5-10 mins worth of play time haha0
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We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.~ George Bernard Shaw
Santa! Santa!
Was Shaw Santa!?! :0)0 -
Who gives a f*@k???? Each to their own. Do what you want to do.0
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If your parents got divorced and you were told "Your father died....that's why he's not here." That would be a lie. How a parent explains the divorce based on adultery is going to vary, but a child can understand unfaithfulness without being given inappropriate details.
Let's be clear, I said protecting children from the truth isn't necessarily lying.
Let me ask you this....
If your parents would have gotten divorced when you were 3 years old cause your dad banged his secretary, and you asked your mother why they got divorced. Would you expect them to tell you "Because daddy banged the secretary?"
If you tell your child about the historical origin of Santa, that would be truthful. If you tell him Santa is going to show up on a flying sleigh and slide down your chimney, etc, that would not be the truth.
Why do I feel that you already know this?0 -
1. Christmas has nothing to do with Christ. It's a pagan holiday celebrating hunting and sex. Christian Kings several hundred years ago made up the lie that it was Jesus' birthday because it was easier to get pagans to convert to Christianity by letting them keep their holiday.
2. X "fixes" nothing, as the X in "Xmas" stands for the Greek letter Chi, which is a common abbreviation for Christ.
1. Yes, you're right.
2. Yes and no. X is part of IXOYE which stands for Jesus Christ Son (of) God Savior. The X still means Christ.0 -
SOOOO... should we start burning all fiction and stop seeing fictional movies and put these kids to work? darn that sponge bob!!!! :devil:0
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my oldest is 7 and she still believes in santa and im glad im goin to let her believe as long as she wants..why spoil her dreams0
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Was Shaw Santa!?! :0)
You might be on to something!
Both had white beards. Never seen in the same room together. Both ate all my mince pies...0 -
SOOOO... should we start burning all fiction and stop seeing fictional movies and put these kids to work? darn that sponge bob!!!! :devil:
Romcoms are definitely the worst lie ever told.0 -
Try telling NORAD that Santa doesn't exist. They are tracking him by GPS!!!
http://www.noradsanta.org/
It's a conspiracy I tell you!
With U.S.Military escorts :noway:
Another waste of tax payer money
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if you only think in extremes, this might be your solution!SOOOO... should we start burning all fiction and stop seeing fictional movies and put these kids to work? darn that sponge bob!!!! :devil:0 -
To me, "Santa" is the name of the Xmas spirit. I'm not Christian. Christmas is about love, peace, family, happiness, and giving. I actually get mad when people don't want to receive a gift. When my kids ask if Santa is real, it's very real. Santa is inside me and everyone else with the holiday spirit. We track Santa every year on the Norad site. They get Santa gifts with special wrapping paper. I'm pretty sure they know there isn't really a fat guy in a suit breaking into our house at midnight. But they love it and look forward to it all.
And in addition to leaving cookies for Santa, we also leave carrots for the reindeer. If the girls leave a note for Santa, they get a note in return, usually with some kind of elf booger or reindeer print on it.
One of the problems with telling your child that there is no Santa, is that they will spew that out with hate every year to the other children. Why not play along with the fun traditions?0 -
WOW, WOW, WOW!!! It is up to YOU to show YOUR kids the true meaning of Christmas. Even if you are not Christian! Believing in Santa DOES NOT negate the TRUE MEANING! Santa Claus is about GIVING TO OTHERS!!!!! THAT IS THE TRUE MEANING OF CHRISTMAS!!
COME ON PEOPLE PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE OSTRICH HOLE YOU HAVE IT IN!!!! STOP BLAMING FICTION CHARACTERS, BECAUSE YOU KID DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OUTLOOK ON THE MEANING OF CHRISTMAS!!
THAT'S YOU FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEM HOW TO BE KIND, UP-STANDING, HUMANS!0 -
Didn't realize that justifies asinine topics. Proceed.
Really? Do you want to start the conversation about what topics are allowed in the chit chat forum?0 -
My daughter never owned a gaming system in her life.I love how everyone is saying its about a childs imagination, and probably will be buying them a ps4 or other electronic play system for xmas. If you want a child to have a child-like imagination, you dont have to do it with a lie you can just give them a box and tell them to play outside. We didnt celebrate xmas and I had a wild imagination as a child, but I was only allowed to play the nintendo for a hour, and my bro sis and I had to split the hour umongst us. Since I was the baby I got a good 5-10 mins worth of play time haha
We now have a Wii because my fiance's parents had one they didn't want anymore, but it's been sitting on the futon in my office/guest room since he brought it home two months ago.0
More important that they learn about the real meaning of Xmas at a young age.
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