Please explain low carbs and it's magical proprieties

QuietBloom

Is that you educational resume Steve? We've been waiting for your answer, since you asked me, and I obliged.

Mr_Knight

No, proteins are not stored in fat. Fat is stored in fat.

You'd think one look at a slab of meat would make that obvious...

Mr_Knight

Is that you educational resume Steve? We've been waiting for your answer, since you asked me, and I obliged.

If that was his education, he wouldn't have written those sentences in such an indirect manner.

jofjltncb6

Is that you educational resume Steve? We've been waiting for your answer, since you asked me, and I obliged.

If that was his education, he wouldn't have written those sentences in such an indirect manner.

That response is right up there with "that depends on what your definition of 'is' is."

QuietBloom

Is that you educational resume Steve? We've been waiting for your answer, since you asked me, and I obliged.

If that was his education, he wouldn't have written those sentences in such an indirect manner.

That response is right up there with "that depends on what your definition of 'is' is."

True that. He obviously feels he is excluded from following his very own principals regarding the right to speak with authority on physiology. Isn't there a name for that particular type of disorder?

suziecue66

Some just find it easier to maintain a caloric deficit on low carb and lose weight. Usually because they cannot personally moderate their intake of foods that are high in carbs and fat. I did initially feel the same thing on low carb but it caused me to binge as would miss the carbs.

EvgeniZyntx

Just as an aside, this is the education one has to have before they can speak with any authority on human physiology, and truly understand a book like Guyton's.

One year (two semesters) of physiology, which requires one year of biochemistry, which requires one year of organic chemistry, which requires one year of general chemistry.

So four years. And in that four years you should throw in two years of biology, one year of which should be cellular biology.

That is what I mean when I comment on erroneous assertions people post, and say "people don't know what they don't know."

When someone claims to be an authority on physiology and metabolics, they should have the above as a starting resume.

Steve, if that was the education needed to speak with any authority, you should be kneeling before me.

First off Guyton's is a good physiology text book and yes, it is commonly used as a third year physiology book (with biochem, organic, chem, bio and cell bio background in place)
Hell, I also have physical chemistry, physical bio chemistry, cell transport, comp. physiology, neurobiology, and genetics classes in my past.

It doesn't make me an expert or an authority given the complexity of the subject. There are some very passionate laymen that do not have that background and are authorities in the area. It really depends on the depth of study beyond Guyton's.

Guyton's remains just a good textbook. If you don't complement it with other sources it's solid but basic.

I want to thank you, I finally talked to my daughter and got my old copy back. I can confirm that at least up to the 7th edition there is no mention of total triglyceride turnover being 3 weeks or less or 3 months or whatever number you want to pull out of a hat. So again, what edition and what page?

EvgeniZyntx

Your body enters ketosis after several days of limiting carbs. Ketosis is a state which forces the body to burn stored proteins for energy instead of carbs. Proteins are stored in fat, so the body is forced to burn fat to get to the stored proteins that are stored in fat. This is just the basic, but low carb diets such as Atkins can really jump start weight loss. I have been on the Atkins diet since Feb 2013 and am nearing 100 lbs lost. I limit my carbs to around 30 per day and do not count calories, fat, proteins, etc. Hope this helps.

No, proteins are not stored in fat. Fat is stored in fat.

I think that some get a little info and confuse things. Perhaps this is what the "proteins stored in fat" poster did.

<Steve> Many amino acids can be converted to acetyl-CoA and then converted into fatty acids and then into triglycerides which are in turn stored in fat. Look in Guyton's. <\Steve>

MaritzK

It's right, your body does not lose more fat when you don't eat carbs but you lose it faster. Reason for this is quite complicated so I'll try to explain this very simple without any complicated terms or mechanisms.

The most of your bodyfat is burned by night or when you work out. In both cases your body will first burn the carbs that are still in your blood from what you consumed overday and didn't use. So when you ate a big pasta dinner that calories will be burned first. This is because burning fat causes your body a lot of energy and a body is always determined to use as little energy as possible to save for harder times (bad for us). So, when you eat less carbs at night or during the day your body will start to burn fat earlier.
There is also a second part of the story: when you don't consume any carbs from wheat-based meals or refined sugar (and little natural sugar) your body gets a carb deficit. What it does then is change it's metabolism so that it can make carbs from protein. This also costs the body a lot of energy so you are burning of more during the proces. Anyway this should be taken into serious consideration since it means you can also eat a limited amount of fruit and veggies that also contain carbs. Therefore you have to upgrade your protein and fat intake (sounds weird to eat fat while you want to lose it, but it works that way).
I have this information because I had a lot of contacts in the bodybuilder scene, I wasn't one myself but I knew some of the tricks they used. From my personal experience I can tell you that I looked and felt the best when I didn't eat carbs after lunch. But I never cut out the fruit! And I think you shouldn't do it as a lifestyle, for 6 weeks is fine but going without carbs for years can't be good for you.

Anyways, be careful and treat your body right, that's most important Good luck!