How is it prisoners build muscles on junk no macro watching
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Women have a hard time putting on muscle.
When I overate I found strength gains steady to a point but my muscles and tendons were very prone to injury. My clothing was tighter due to the fat that accompanied the minimal muscle growth, despite following a philosophy of going as heavy as possible. I assume most strong men would simply eat to excess, lift weights as often as possible and possibly obtain anabolic steroids if at all possible.
Obsessively tracking protein macros, meal planning after workouts and was just a whole level of obsessiveness that I don't care to follow anymore.0 -
I think I found the title of my next book: The Prison Diet: How to Bulk Like a Criminal
Bwahahahahaha! It would sell too.. No kiddin'!
Start touring the US prisons and conduct some investigative journalism (to show you have acquired a bit of valid data and give at least the illusion of some credibility) Then hire a ghost writer (faster than if you scribe it yourself). Find a couple of obscure Phd's with some vaguely related research to preface it and back up your stuff. Finally sit down, relax; just wait and watch your book climb the NY times best seller list!
I volunteer to be your agent, Jerry! 0 -
I think I found the title of my next book: The Prison Diet: How to Bulk Like a Criminal
Chapter One - Commit a crime
Chapter Two - Make sure you get caught
Chapter Three - Go to Prison
Chapter Four - The End :laugh: :laugh:0 -
Protein shakes- 3 per day and 3 small
Meals and lift! At one point in time I
Did this and went from 23% body fat
To 18% body fat! I followed Bill Phillip's
book Body For Life. You don't have to
consume tons of calories to get muscle,0 -
Protein shakes- 3 per day and 3 small
Meals and lift! At one point in time I
Did this and went from 23% body fat
To 18% body fat! I followed Bill Phillip's
book Body For Life. You don't have to
consume tons of calories to get muscle,
You can drop bf% without gaining muscle, so this example is not necessarily proof of anything other than dropping weight. Also, no calorie count of the meals and shakes are given. For all we know, each shake is 300 cals and meals are 500 each, totaling out at 2400 calories.0 -
Okay. I know a few guys who went to prison and ate like ****. They didn't go in wanting to bulk up but they did without watching their diet. I'm having a hard time with this macro thing to build or tone up formula mess. I'm thinking about just doing what i do and not stress myself out on this and hopefully I will build muscle and tone my butt.
No way I can eat 2400 cals a day! Crazy...
Any thoughts?
Thoughts? You can send your spare calories my way...I average about 2400 a day (low days less, high days more) and purposely choose lower calorie-dense carbs so I can eat more volume :P
Your friends...ate, trained and most importantly probably sat around and did not a lot for the most part. Don't underestimate the importance of rest!0 -
Okay. I know a few guys who went to prison and ate like ****. They didn't go in wanting to bulk up but they did without watching their diet. I'm having a hard time with this macro thing to build or tone up formula mess. I'm thinking about just doing what i do and not stress myself out on this and hopefully I will build muscle and tone my butt.
No way I can eat 2400 cals a day! Crazy...
Any thoughts?
Thoughts? You can send your spare calories my way...I average about 2400 a day (low days less, high days more) and purposely choose lower calorie-dense carbs so I can eat more volume :P
Your friends...ate, trained and most importantly probably sat around and did not a lot for the most part. Don't underestimate the importance of rest!
Good point about rest! Good point.
And, why yes help yourself. Lol0 -
Protein shakes- 3 per day and 3 small
Meals and lift! At one point in time I
Did this and went from 23% body fat
To 18% body fat! I followed Bill Phillip's
book Body For Life. You don't have to
consume tons of calories to get muscle,
I do protein smoothies once a day at least, twice if needed. I add fruits green leafy veggies to them most the time.
My base ingredients being whey protein and banana = 270 ...0 -
They DO eat as much protein as they possibly can. Ask your x-convict friends again... They lift HEAVY. Some do cardio. Don't nobody wanna go to prison to be a prison *****. Part of surviving in there :glasses:0
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They DO eat as much protein as they possibly can. Ask your x-convict friends again... They lift HEAVY. Some do cardio. Don't nobody wanna go to prison to be a prison *****. Part of surviving in there :glasses:
Lol! Trust me they ain't no squares going in mama. Lol
They just ate what they liked and lots of commissary and lifted. I'm sure they did eat a lot of protein... But I think what some are missing here is they didn't keep track or discuss it.
Like I said before on here they acted and didn't think about it like we are. They didn't sit around talking about macros! That's the point I'm making. Lol.. They just lifted. They didn't discuss all that.
And one said he ate a lot of cup of noodles, pepperoni, chips and candy, just sweets in general.
But it is what it is. Lol0 -
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Lol! Trust me they ain't no squares going in mama. Lol
They just ate what they liked and lots of commissary and lifted. I'm sure they did eat a lot of protein... But I think what some are missing here is they didn't keep track or discuss it.
Like I said before on here they acted and didn't think about it like we are. They didn't sit around talking about macros! That's the point I'm making. Lol.. They just lifted. They didn't discuss all that.
And one said he ate a lot of cup of noodles, pepperoni, chips and candy, just sweets in general.
But it is what it is. Lol
Actually, that's the part you keep missing. Tracking and discussing ain't a requirement to get yoked just like discussing your future family plans ain't a requirement to get pregnant.0 -
I think I found the title of my next book: The Prison Diet: How to Bulk Like a Criminal
Chapter One - Commit a crime
Chapter Two - Make sure you get caught
Chapter Three - Go to Prison
Chapter Four - The End :laugh: :laugh:
You forgot these:
Chapter Five - Eat all the foodz
Chapter Six - Lots of pushups. Lots.
ETA: There isn't always gym access in prisons. Don't ask me how I know this. I guess it depends on the state and/or county.0 -
Its all the extra testosterone injections they receive nightly0
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Simple reason....
One of my former colleagues did some time in prison... His words:
"I came out huge, because all I did in my cell was train! Push ups\Pull-ups\Sit-ups, Then in the gym smashed heavy weights, ate a S**t load of food, and slept loads as Lights out was early"
Nothing more than simple basics of Bulking:
Eat
Lift
Eat
Sleep
Repeat
He didn't get fat because he was training for close to 4/5 hours over the day!
Not that I'd recommend that much training for anyone0 -
Coming from someone who has never been in prison...shut your mouth you have no idea what your talking about!!!! Besides, each prison is different.. so f off
Wow... you sound pleasant.0 -
A friend (an old friend lol) came out absolutely jacked...due to steroids. I know OP your friends didn't do that, but any time people are blown away by someone going to jail and coming out JACKED (not just in better shape but dem gainz) don't discount the potential of PEDs.
He claims they were easy as hell to get in there...of course he went to jail for selling them soooo your mileage may vary :laugh:0 -
Coming from someone who has never been in prison...shut your mouth you have no idea what your talking about!!!! Besides, each prison is different.. so f off
Wow... you sound pleasant.
She was drunk. :frown:0 -
Yeah 2400 is torture. Wish it was 3500 :sad:
^^ So much this!
2500 is my maintenance.0 -
They also trained everyday. They weren't worried about spontaneously combusting if they trained more than 3 days a week.0
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What I got from this thread is that twelve year olds shouldn't drink.
ETA: ...and that I was wrong for thinking that they all just did the Convict Conditioning program.0 -
Lol! Trust me they ain't no squares going in mama. Lol
They just ate what they liked and lots of commissary and lifted. I'm sure they did eat a lot of protein... But I think what some are missing here is they didn't keep track or discuss it.
Like I said before on here they acted and didn't think about it like we are. They didn't sit around talking about macros! That's the point I'm making. Lol.. They just lifted. They didn't discuss all that.
And one said he ate a lot of cup of noodles, pepperoni, chips and candy, just sweets in general.
But it is what it is. Lol
Actually, that's the part you keep missing. Tracking and discussing ain't a requirement to get yoked just like discussing your future family plans ain't a requirement to get pregnant.
I know that. I think the part that others are missing is that there are plenty of discussions that say track your macros, etc.,, eat more protein, oh looked at your food journal and your lacking this.... and that.... that is what I am saying. It just became stressful to me and what I was trying to accomplish. Im new to this whole macro thing so ofcourse I'm going to be a little confused. So I decided to start this topic to basically vent and whine and moan about how this particular population or at least the ones I know of did this without it tracking and ate like ****. Now I understand that eating like crap is subjective and that's that.
With the new info presented here now I know a little more and understand.
Thanks again everyone!0 -
If your energy requirements are met without it, the vast majority of protein you in take will be used for repair and growth and not used as a fuel source.0
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All those sweaty men and no women results in an aura of testosterone, enhancing gains. Science.0
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Well, that explains why I started yelling "Lightweight mother****er" and beating my chest like a gorilla in my new gym.All those sweaty men and no women results in an aura of testosterone, enhancing gains. Science.0 -
LOL,
My boy went in for 3 years and came out 20lbs up with a six pack.
pullups to failure multiple times a day.
pushups tell failure and pushups per page.
aka read a page 10 pushups read a page 10 pushups.
also creatine is easy to get threw. cake frosting sugar creanine.
JACK MACK- 3 cans a day with crackhead noodles.
they know whats up.
My boy cam out diesel.0 -
I know everyone always knocks prison food, but it is supposed to be balanced and follow a set of food safety standards. I think it's 50% CHO, 20% prot, and 30% fat don't quote me on that though along with any extras they are allowed.
Combine the hours of lifting with 3 square meals a day you get some massive dudes.
Good question BTW.
Great info. SO this is how you get massive dudes? I'm gonna start MCD's Lockup Workup training fat camps in the hills of malibu. It's gonna beat the pants off of both boot camp workouts and prison. B/C on my plan you don't have to wear camo and it's better than prison b/c well...prison. **note my attendees will still be wearing handcuffs for short intervals because. brb location scouting and business banking scouting.0 -
This is the best answer I've seen to this exact question, courtesy of Elliott Hulse, stength coach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DOM_tMIXIo
Bottom line: we're not prisoners. We don't do what they do, on either the large scale or the smaller scale.0 -
I worked in a prison as a CO. Trust me, all these guys did was eat and work out. We had inmates who were 200-250 pounds of pure muscle, and CO's who were 250-350 pounds of pure fat. Good thing these guys decided to behave 99% of the time.0
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You can always do it the Kali Muscle way. Tuna and ramen noodles will do the job when you're young. Then, start taking the steroids when you're out of prison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzNb6KCok9o 0
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