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  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    I can't go so far as to say that everyone who is pro-life should adopt. Most of the time, if a woman gets pregnant, it's because she chose to engage in behavior that got her so.

    Adoption isn't about helping the woman because she got herself pregnant. It is about helping the child whose mother doesn't want/can't care for it. Asking a woman to keep a child she doesn't want/isn't capable of caring for doesn't punish her or teach her a lesson or serve her right for getting knocked up...it punishes that child. I was born to a mother who didn't want kids yet kept me...being raised by a parent who knows they aren't parent material...is extremely detrimental. Maybe it is because I'm royally effed up in my head, but I've said my whole life I wish I'd never been born...and I have a sneaking suspicion that being raised by a mother who didn't want to mother me...is the reason for that. Maybe if I had been adopted, things would have different, maybe not, maybe worse even...but I know if I had been given the choice of being raised by a mother like that or not "being" at all....I would have chosen not being.

    I'm not directing this at you Jen and I'm not saying you are saying a woman should keep her baby because it was her fault she got pregnant (daddy's too)...I just felt those feels after reading that and...I guess I wanted to put in my two cents as a kid who was raised by a rather unwilling parent...people tend to think they are thinking about what is best for the kid...they think being offed before you even begin is cruel but being raised by a mother that keeps her kid out of reasons of guilt...that is cruel and sets that child up for a lifetime of hardships...

  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Hey, your feels are totally valid. I'm perfectly willing to admit that many that get pregnant are probably not in a position to raise the baby, and I wish there were more ways to make the father responsible. Sigh. And, I know very much what it feels like to wish you had never been born, but perhaps for different reasons.
    I do wish more people would look at the option of adoption, though, especially those who are willing to go to extreme measures to have children (in vitro fertilization, etc).
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    edited September 2015
    I wish they would seek adoption too, but I totally get that some people wouldn't be able to fully love a child that wasn't theirs biologically. Glad they are honest with themselves...

    And I appreciate you not taking that as an attack or trying to start an argument or persuasion to change your opinion!
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    edited September 2015
    Sex Ed Outside The U.S. Teaches Kids About M*sturbation, Consent And Orgasms — And It’s Working!

    http://www.mtv.com/news/2259573/6-countries-doing-sex-ed-better-than-america/
  • sufferlandrian
    sufferlandrian Posts: 8,244 Member
    four hours to go. I'm struggling.
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    I bet! I remember reading Cosmo magazine and learning stuff about sex. My mom didn't talk to me about sex until she read my diary at 15 and found out I'd already had sex. And I didn't get "the talk", offers for birth control, etc...I just got in trouble. Sex ed needs to be started at home and early. Kids can google anything and learn some effed up stuff that will shape their entire sexual life if not properly educated early!
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    I bet! I remember reading Cosmo magazine and learning stuff about sex. My mom didn't talk to me about sex until she read my diary at 15 and found out I'd already had sex. And I didn't get "the talk", offers for birth control, etc...I just got in trouble. Sex ed needs to be started at home and early. Kids can google anything and learn some effed up stuff that will shape their entire sexual life if not properly educated early!

    I checked out 'The Joy of Sex' from my local library when I was like...9. I learned early and when my parents found the book, they asked if I had any questions and I said 'a million' and that started it all.
    That being said, I know a LOT about sex, how to avoid pregnancy, STIs, and how to try to get pregnant, but accidents happen, contraceptives fail, and that is why I am glad abortions are legal(Not for everyone but there it is folks). I don't want kids right now, maybe not ever. I've already decided that IF I do decide I want children, the partner I have had better be up for adoption because there are enough children in this world that I could love regardless of where they come from, what color they are, what religion they are, what sexual orientation they are, or what age they are. If/when I decide I am ready to be a mother, I imagine, like my mother before me, nothing will stand in my way.
  • belimawr
    belimawr Posts: 1,155 Member
    edited September 2015
    four hours to go. I'm struggling.

    Don't you hate that?

    At least it's 4. There are days beforehand that I know I'm working 16... it usually starts off like "15 and a half hours to go..."

    Almost took out 3 fawn on the trail this morning. I made sure to get out today, it's supposed to rain all week. :/ Usually does on my vacations.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    edited September 2015
    My mom was all about the sex ed and telling me she would put me on birth control whenever I asked...but when I actually got caught having sex? I got a beating.

    Speaking of screwed up childhoods...lol...
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    While I don't personally spank (they say you should only spank when calm...ain't never gonna happen with me) I don't have a problem when it is done correctly (see previous parenthesis) or when other methods haven't worked...and typically only for young children...but I can only imagine how frustrating that must have been for her...especially being open with you about it!

    I have to ask...why didn't you ask her for birth control if she offered? Just uncomfortable? Already taken care of yourself? You don't have to answer, of course!
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    This cat...

    I tried to give it eggs...didn't want any. I know milk is a no-no but my kitties eat yogurt with no issues so I gave him some milk. He happily lapped it up but now he is having stinky gas!

    And this little mothertrucker is just like Limpy Jim. Limpy Jim is a stray we took in (had to wait a few days to bring him to the shelter) and he was soooo affectionate...until he bit you...like biting out of love or some crazy shizz. This cat is very needy, won't leave my side, very underfoot. I've been loving on this jerk for HOURS and he bites me...twice! Not hard, of course, but jeez! He is practically HUGGING my arm as I type...
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    This cat...

    I tried to give it eggs...didn't want any. I know milk is a no-no but my kitties eat yogurt with no issues so I gave him some milk. He happily lapped it up but now he is having stinky gas!

    And this little mothertrucker is just like Limpy Jim. Limpy Jim is a stray we took in (had to wait a few days to bring him to the shelter) and he was soooo affectionate...until he bit you...like biting out of love or some crazy shizz. This cat is very needy, won't leave my side, very underfoot. I've been loving on this jerk for HOURS and he bites me...twice! Not hard, of course, but jeez! He is practically HUGGING my arm as I type...

    Lol! Sounds like Fury, our stray that's adopted us. He's missing one eye and has scratches across his nose. He's not neutered(probably how he got all scraped up in the first place) and my mother is after me to catch him on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday when the shelter will take him. We would keep him but he's fighting with our cat KC, who is a *kitten* to begin with, but KC has been losing the fights and he doesn't deserve to be pestered in his own yard.

    So we are making the decision to give him to the local shelter. On the bright side, he's been hanging around for weeks, so we know he is good with other cats, he's good with dogs, and is affectionate as hell! We can tell the shelter this info and they can put it in his kitty profile.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    While I don't personally spank (they say you should only spank when calm...ain't never gonna happen with me) I don't have a problem when it is done correctly (see previous parenthesis) or when other methods haven't worked...and typically only for young children...but I can only imagine how frustrating that must have been for her...especially being open with you about it!

    I have to ask...why didn't you ask her for birth control if she offered? Just uncomfortable? Already taken care of yourself? You don't have to answer, of course!

    I wasn't beaten for not asking for birth control. I was beaten by my dad for having sex. I was 16.

  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Beh, don't mind me. Clearly I'm still too sensitive about these things.
  • hamptontom
    hamptontom Posts: 536 Member
    sadly, i think there are a lot more of us...the "too sensitive about these things" crowd...than there are people who got all the education and support they needed to become well-adjusted adults.

    and the pendulum is still swinging in the wrong direction.

    if you're lucky, you trip over the insight you need later on in life and find some means by which to get yourself pointed in the right direction...but that scar tissue can last forever.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Yeah, it's true. I've been working on growing past this stuff, with some success, but it takes time and healing is hard. I'll get there!
  • hamptontom
    hamptontom Posts: 536 Member
    yeah. healing IS hard. and so many of us try to heal while still surrounded by the toxic crap that messed us up in the first place, and it's doubly difficult....it's like going to chemo for lung cancer, but still showing up for your job at the asbestos factory.

    sometimes, it really is best to just drop back ten and punt...pack your stuff and move to a city where nobody knows you, where you can pick all new friends and start from scratch and reinvent yourself.

    especially parental stuff - my father had the decency to die while i was 15 or so. he was, without exaggeration, one of the worst human beings ever born...my mom was basically a chain-smoking shell of a person, completely emotionally unavailable.

    i say this over and over again, it seems like...but - almost from the time you're an infant you begin to make choices that inform who you are. you go through life and you become the person you are through a series of random influences, and you have control over almost ALL of them. BUT - the one choice you have absolutely no control over whatsoever is who you're born to when you come into this world.

    and yet we put this immense pressure on ourselves to "fit in" to whatever family ideal we're saddled with by fate, when sometimes the best we can do is bide our time until it's safe to make a run for it.

    i joined the military out of high school and ran like hell.


    ...what? what? WHO's oversharing?
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    I think because they get ingrained in us before we become aware that we have choices. It becomes such a fundamental part of our consciousness that many people never get past it. I think it takes a lot of self-awareness to even try, which you obviously had, even at a young age, to get away as early as you did.
  • hamptontom
    hamptontom Posts: 536 Member
    i don't know where it comes from...but i remember knowing, intuitively, from a very young age that i just didn't belong there. i was always "the weird kid".
  • sufferlandrian
    sufferlandrian Posts: 8,244 Member
    I am so looking forward to a day off. Now all I need to do is figure out how to get one. :smile:
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    I am so looking forward to a day off. Now all I need to do is figure out how to get one. :smile:

    Good luck!
    I requested vacation for my sister's wedding and now that our other night shift guy is coming back from back surgery and we have filled our relief position, I might be able to take a 3 day weekend at some point!
  • sufferlandrian
    sufferlandrian Posts: 8,244 Member
    The interview for a new vet on Wednesday got pushed back to Thursday, but I've been waiting for a year so an extra day won't matter.
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    I hear you guys on being the weird kid. I spent several years as a child in a very small Midwestern farm town...I was ALWAYS the weird one...in my family, amongst classmates...I've always felt more progressive (although I wouldn't have know how to describe how I felt...I just felt weird and different than everyone else) than the people I was surrounded by. When my mom moved me to the area I live in now, it was more urban and I felt a little less odd, since there was actual variety and diversity in my new environment. I was STILL the weird kid though...I wore crap that kids teased me for and I was baffled why people can't just wear what they like...I still feel that way. Midwest living just isn't for me...

    @jen_417 I feel ya. My mom sounds a lot like your dad...it is reeeeeally tough to work through that shizz...

    Stray cat, whom Elka named Scotchy...went to the shelter. No chip. But he is sweet and used a litter box so he shouldn't have any trouble finding a family!

    Thank goodness it is my Friday because my patience is running reeeeal thin with guests. As I'm walking in, a guest is at the desk (2nd shift is not at the desk) and says his key isn't working. I tell him I'll be with him in just a second as soon as I make it around the desk. Let me preface this by saying, I move fast. I always move fast. I can't help it...and I don't want to...it bothers me none. But this jackhole says "Whoa, whoa, whoa....slow down!" I said, sorry, I always move quick, with a smile on my face. He says "I know you are working but I'm not...slow down, you are stressing me out!" Eff YOU, buddy! Why do you think it is ok to SAY that shizz? And he wasn't being playful about it...just being a jackhole. This is within seconds of the beginning of my shift.

    Then this guy from last night...omg. (This is the guy who tried to make me feel bad for taking the cat to the shelter.) Within minutes of check in last night he tells me that the entrance at the far end of the building isn't handicap compliant, there is no ramp and he can't roll his cart of luggage to the room. (He is not in an accessible room/parking space) I say I'll pass it on to the manager. He keeps going on and on about it and I tell him the handicap accessible rooms are all right at the lobby...where we have a ramp in front and a ramp in back. And maybe he's right...maybe all entrances need to be ADA compliant...I'm not sure, but I tell him I'll make sure the manager is alerted. He just stands there and stares at me like he is waiting for me to go bust out a jackhammer and cement truck to replace the sidewalk with a ramp. Whatev. (Not the ADA compliance, this guy...) Then during breakfast he is on his phone for an hour (no exaggeration) having a loud conversation about his dysfunctional family. I can hear him at the desk...clear as day...nearly 30 feet away. Now tonight...he's rolling the luggage cart back to the lobby from his room. He tells me that we need to retire the cart because it sounds like a freight train coming down the hall. I tell him I'll have maintenance take a look at it in the morning. He just stands there...again. He says "What are your thoughts? Don't you think it bothers guests?" I told him I've worked here for years and this is the first time I've heard a complaint about the noise level of our carts. He just stands there as I'm writing a maintenance ticket. He then asks if he should return the cart where he found it or leave it (it is directy in the middle of the walkway through the lobby in front of the main desk...uh...put it back.)...I tell him to return it for now...maintenance won't be in until morning anyway.

    I. am. going. to. lose. my. shizz.

    On a good note...I made the bodice part of the costume. Well, I haven't hemmed/trimmed it yet but the front and back panels plus linings are a cohesive piece. It came out pretty nice. It is soooo stressful though...lining, zippers, darts, puffy sleeves...much more difficult than an apron!

  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member

    I. am. going. to. lose. my. shizz.

    On a good note...I made the bodice part of the costume. Well, I haven't hemmed/trimmed it yet but the front and back panels plus linings are a cohesive piece. It came out pretty nice. It is soooo stressful though...lining, zippers, darts, puffy sleeves...much more difficult than an apron!

    Wow...BUT don't you feel so accomplished with having come so far on the costume already?!
  • BodyByBex
    BodyByBex Posts: 3,685 Member
    My dad made a chicken stir fry this go-round and it is AH-MAZE-ING!

    I'm eating pieces of heaven I swear.

    Oh and my mom is down 6 pounds since she started MFP and my dad is down 21! *dances*
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    I do. This costume is a major test for me. I'm a big giver-upper. I have wanted to give up a million times already...just trying to make sense of the instructions yesterday with the bodice lining about brought me to tears at one point...(I couldn't understand the illustrations in some parts and shizz like that just makes me so angry because it makes me feel stupid...and I know I'm not but when I can't figure little things like that out...it makes me doubt myself) but I just told myself to just keep going. If I finish it and it sucks, oh well...buy her a costume and at least know I finished something/learned what not to do...instead of getting discouraged and quitting. I guess I figure the success...or even semi-success of something will help me with a lot of my issues of being overwhelmed/discouraged so easily...

    That is awesome your parents have gotten on the MFP bandwagon...but do they get into the forums? Reading up on your bizzzzness? ;)
  • Frankie_Felinius
    Frankie_Felinius Posts: 1,398 Member
    I ordered a couple books tonight. My fiance listens to the Joe Rogan podcast and there was a psychologist named Dr Chris Ryan on there. My fiance told me that the guy reminded him of me...soooo...naturally I checked him out and now I've bought his book. It is called "The Dawn of Sex"...it is about human relationships, etc. (He is described as a grumpy misanthropist...I get the correlation, lol) I also got "Diary of a Teenage Girl"...supposed to be a effed up coming of age type thing? I was an effed up teenage girl once...so I thought I might like it. I forgot to order another book recommend to me "Geek Love"? Totally forgot to order that and the movie "The Witches"...

    Anybody read any of these?



    Usually my lil' lady's soccer games are on Saturday morning and her dad never gets to watch since he is working. She has a game tonight though so he gets to watch her for the first time!
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    I am so looking forward to a day off. Now all I need to do is figure out how to get one. :smile:
    If you do figure it out, let me know, eh?

  • belimawr
    belimawr Posts: 1,155 Member
    edited September 2015
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    Unfortunately no biking there as it was about 150 miles away. ;) Had to take another form of transportation. First time I took her out in almost a month, and she let me know how pissed she was until I got on the highway.
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  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Great pics!