So can we put this topic to bed now?

EvgeniZyntx

My daughter did not even taste sugar until she started kindergarten. He teacher called me one day and said, I think you better lighten up on the sugar scare. One of my daughter's classmates had a birthday and brought in cupcakes. I had told my daughter that sugar would rot your teeth. Well, it will. My daughter wouldn't eat the cupcakes. To this day, she is a size 2 and never a weight problem. :-)

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I can't even start with this

Because.....? If sugar was just found today and had to go through all the FDA approvals, it would fail. It is very bad for all of us.

The FDA regularly takes action against raw sugar when impurities are found and make it not suitable for human use. They actually require a certain level of refinement. Reality, it's tough getting used to it.

EvgeniZyntx

Modus omnibus in rebus, soror, optimum est habitu;
Nimia omnia nimium exhibent negotium hominibus ex se.

In everything the middle course is best: all things in excess bring trouble to men.

~Plautus, Pænulus, I. 2. 29.

Good advice for 200BC, still good advice...

this ^^^^


Although I'll trump you The Buddha teaching "The Middle Way" circa 500BC

Quite sophrosyne. :bigsmile:

neandermagnon

My daughter did not even taste sugar until she started kindergarten. The teacher called me one day and said, I think you better lighten up on the sugar scare. One of my daughter's classmates had a birthday and brought in cupcakes. I had told my daughter that sugar would rot your teeth. Well, it will. My daughter wouldn't eat the cupcakes. To this day, she is a size 2 and never a weight problem. :-)

I think your attitude is too extreme - I agree with the teacher.

Yes, too much sugar is bad for both weight control and dental care - I don't think anyone is arguing with that.

But an occasional cupcake is not going to make anyone overweight or rot their teeth (if they have good toothbrushing habits and an otherwise balanced diet)

^^^^^ this

kids shouldn't be afraid to eat a cupcake. And cupcakes every now and then won't hurt kids either. It depends on what happens the rest of the time, i.e. balanced diet, good dental hygiene habits.

also, my mum told me that certain foods could rot my teeth, it never made me afraid to eat them, because she explained the difference between eating them occasionally and eating them constantly, and the importance of cleaning your teeth, especially after eating sugary foods. So I don't think a child being afraid to eat a cupcake to the point that a teacher actually has to discuss the issue with the child's parent is simply the result of the child being told that sugary food contributes to tooth decay....

bio_fit

A hypothesis is a theory. What study proves everything this article is stating? I don't get it, I was expecting to see proof.

No - in science, a hypothesis is very different from a theory!

EvgeniZyntx

I home cooked using honey. It's much better for you than white sugar or even brown sugar. But I also cut the sugar in 1/2 of what the recipe called for. Didn't use it very often either. Only on special occasions. Never missed it either.

Honey - honey is made of sugar. Didn't the bees tell you?

Regurgitated sugar at that.

That must be what gives it its magical 'safe' properties.

Processing, by any other name would smell as sweet as bee barf.

-Shakespoore, the other brother.

twixlepennie

I home cooked using honey. It's much better for you than white sugar or even brown sugar. But I also cut the sugar in 1/2 of what the recipe called for. Didn't use it very often either. Only on special occasions. Never missed it either.

:huh: No. It's not.

yarwell

Reading the actual study....

The NNH data in the study is interesting - The number needed to harm (NNH) is an epidemiological measure that indicates how many patients need to be exposed to a risk-factor over a specific period to cause harm in one patient that would not otherwise have been harmed.

Of the people consuming >=21.3% of calories from sucrose over 15 years 1 in 22 would be expected to suffer an adverse effect as a result. Range of estimate is 13 to 66. So compared to eating <9.6% of calories as sucrose the extra risk is between 1 in 13 and 1 in 66, with expected 1 in 22 or ~5%. A 5% chance of a heart disease problem as a result of eating more than double the amount of sugar.

J72FIT

The point is that the study doesn't appear to have corrected for a significant number of factors while isolating sugar. They established a correlation, but did not establish causation. Honestly there probably aren't many people who get as much sugar as I do while getting the quantity of protein and vegetables that I do while exercising 3-10 hours a week and maintaining <15% body fat.

I imagine if one is sedentary then watching sugar intake could be of importance. That said, IMO, it is far deadlier to be sedentary then to consume sugar.

The only time sugar is deadly, is when my 3 year old has some right before bed...

neanderthin

I home cooked using honey. It's much better for you than white sugar or even brown sugar. But I also cut the sugar in 1/2 of what the recipe called for. Didn't use it very often either. Only on special occasions. Never missed it either.

Honey - honey is made of sugar. Didn't the bees tell you?

Regurgitated sugar at that.

That must be what gives it its magical 'safe' properties.

Processing, by any other name would smell as sweet as bee barf.

-Shakespoore, the other brother.

lol.

LiftAllThePizzas

Modus omnibus in rebus, soror, optimum est habitu;
Nimia omnia nimium exhibent negotium hominibus ex se.

In everything the middle course is best: all things in excess bring trouble to men.

~Plautus, Pænulus, I. 2. 29.

Good advice for 200BC, still good advice...

this ^^^^


Although I'll trump you The Buddha teaching "The Middle Way" circa 500BC

It's thinly-disguised circular reasoning. "In excess" is only relative to the point at which something becomes harmful. And "the middle path" is simply "that which is not harmful."

All it says is (!harmful) != (!!harmful)

No surprise there.

LiftAllThePizzas

A hypothesis is a theory. What study proves everything this article is stating? I don't get it, I was expecting to see proof.

No - in science, a hypothesis is very different from a theory!

A hypothesis is an idea you can test.:happy: