I miss food
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If I ate the recommended servings I would probably be moderate and still lose weight, but this isn't enough to make me feel full or satisfied.
I must say I'm also not one of those who feel satisfied with smaller portions of treats, so I can't include them in my everyday meals.
Well you certainly don't sound satisfied now.0 -
Again like everyone else, I dont miss a damn thing!!! I eat everything I want, in the correct portion and fit it into my calorie goal for the day!!!! Had pizza for lunch and I have been craving a McGriddles breakfast sammy. May just get that bad boy for breakfast tomorrow!!!0
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If I ate the recommended servings I would probably be moderate and still lose weight, but this isn't enough to make me feel full or satisfied.
I must say I'm also not one of those who feel satisfied with smaller portions of treats, so I can't include them in my everyday meals.
a serving of ice cream tho...or a serving of nuts...
REally...it's not going to make you fat..
I eat lots of treats and still lose weight...you don't have to deprive yourself...
What is going to happen when you just can't deprive yourself any longer and you binge.....what will you do then? totally give up?0 -
You have a very distorted idea of weight loss and maintenance, and you're setting yourself up to fail.
Also I don't get this. What's weightloss and maintenance then?
Weight loss distortion = thinking you have to only eat certain foods to lose weight and can't lose weight eating things you enjoy.
Maintenance = thinking a.) you can eat the things you want once you reach your goal weight (and often binging since moderation was never learned) or b.) that you'll never, ever eat the things like you like ever again.
I don't personally agree, I know I can still eat certain things I used to enjoy, but I know that I can't do this everyday without expecting to gain weight. Because if I did, I'd still be doing whatever I was doing before dieting, that eventually led me to gain weight.
Maintenance doesn't remotely need you can binge because then you would be back to zero. But if moderation means I can be full and happy with eating a single slice of pizza (which would perfectly fit into my daily calories), than tell my stomach to be full because it says something else...0 -
I get cutting out sweets and chips if you're trying to break bad habits, but... baked potato, salsa, chickpeas, egg? Those are all healthy foods. If you won't let yourself eat them, then what DO you eat?0
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I meant to quote that. And I went and got the blood work and resting metabolic rate test done at a gym, and my metabolism is very low. According to most charts i should have rmr of about 1394, but mine is 1167. So to actually loose without spending two hours in the gym every day, I was told to eat a thousand calories a day by a nutritionist. That makes a lot of salads with minimal dressings, vegetable soups, and yogurts. So, I basically eat salads, soups, steamed veggies and yogurt. Sometimes a veggie sausage patty, usually a string cheese. Lots of fruit.
And my mom is physically active, sleeps enough, and never ever ever gets sick. I also don't think shes ate anything processed, or non free range/organic/locally farmed in years.0 -
What do you mean by "satisfied"? Do you mean feeling full? If that's the case, obviously aim to fill the rest of your calories surrounding a treat with filling ones: protein, fat, fiber.
"Filling" isn't the same thing for everyone. Except I actually eat something and tell you how I feel afterwards, I can't say whether a certain amount of proteins, fats and fiber will make me feel full.Well you certainly don't sound satisfied now.
You can bet on it, but I'm surely more satisfied now than when I was eating whatever I wanted and felt bad about it.a serving of ice cream tho...or a serving of nuts...
REally...it's not going to make you fat..
I eat lots of treats and still lose weight...you don't have to deprive yourself...
What is going to happen when you just can't deprive yourself any longer and you binge.....what will you do then? totally give up?
Might be just me, but that wouldn't make me feel full. I know it because I've tried eating until I was full during the last 3 weeks of Dec. and gained several kgs.0 -
You have a very distorted idea of weight loss and maintenance, and you're setting yourself up to fail.
Also I don't get this. What's weightloss and maintenance then?
Weight loss distortion = thinking you have to only eat certain foods to lose weight and can't lose weight eating things you enjoy.
Maintenance = thinking a.) you can eat the things you want once you reach your goal weight (and often binging since moderation was never learned) or b.) that you'll never, ever eat the things like you like ever again.
I don't personally agree, I know I can still eat certain things I used to enjoy, but I know that I can't do this everyday without expecting to gain weight. Because if I did, I'd still be doing whatever I was doing before dieting, that eventually led me to gain weight.
Maintenance doesn't remotely need you can binge because then you would be back to zero. But if moderation means I can be full and happy with eating a single slice of pizza (which would perfectly fit into my daily calories), than tell my stomach to be full because it says something else...
I think you completely misunderstood the post. I posited why someone would think OP had a distorted views, based off of you questioning someone else.
When someone is that restrictive about what they eat, to the point of unhappiness, they can fall into those traps at maintenance, or earlier when still losing weight.0 -
I miss...chips and salsa. Chips and Guac. F lamming Cheetos. More than one dinky ounce of cheese. Potatoes with cheese and salsa and onions and peppers..a whole baked one. Ice cream. Cashews. Damn I really miss cashews. Nuts. Peanut butter. One spoon is pathetic. Hummus. Chick Peas out of the can. Cheese enchilada. Eggplant Parm. Garlic bread with cheese. Eggs with cheese, peppers, onions, diced potatoes and salsa scrambled. Hash browns.
All nuts are awesome for you as long as they are unsalted! And you don't eat hummus?? OMG I downed a whole container yesterday LOL. It's awesome! Don't deprive yourself, if you want it eat it. Remember you lose weight by calorie deficit so as long as you are under your goal then you are good to go. Regarding health purposes, yes, try to avoid processed foods but basically from cashews and on in this list all of those are excellent food choices (except for the enchilada - high in calories!) And have yourself a cheat day so you don't eventually quit - I have like 2 cheat days per week because I LOVE food so I can't be away from the high caloric foods that I enjoy. Good luck on your journey :flowerforyou:0 -
Teach yourself to savor the high cal treats. How you ask?If I ate the recommended servings I would probably be moderate and still lose weight, but this isn't enough to make me feel full or satisfied.
I must say I'm also not one of those who feel satisfied with smaller portions of treats, so I can't include them in my everyday meals.
- eat them slowly
- enjoy the flavor and texture
- when you are eating a treat focuse on it and nothing else so you don't miss the experience.
- remind yourself when it is over that you will have more, just not now.0 -
I meant to quote that. And I went and got the blood work and resting metabolic rate test done at a gym, and my metabolism is very low. According to most charts i should have rmr of about 1394, but mine is 1167. So to actually loose without spending two hours in the gym every day, I was told to eat a thousand calories a day by a nutritionist. That makes a lot of salads with minimal dressings, vegetable soups, and yogurts. So, I basically eat salads, soups, steamed veggies and yogurt. Sometimes a veggie sausage patty, usually a string cheese. Lots of fruit.
And my mom is physically active, sleeps enough, and never ever ever gets sick. I also don't think shes ate anything processed, or non free range/organic/locally farmed in years.
not sure I would trust the test done at a gym...nor would I trust a "nutritionalist" period...registered dietician maybe...as long as they were current on their studies.0 -
What do you mean by "satisfied"? Do you mean feeling full? If that's the case, obviously aim to fill the rest of your calories surrounding a treat with filling ones: protein, fat, fiber.
"Filling" isn't the same thing for everyone. Except I actually eat something and tell you how I feel afterwards, I can't say whether a certain amount of proteins, fats and fiber will make me feel full.Well you certainly don't sound satisfied now.
You can bet on it, but I'm surely more satisfied now than when I was eating whatever I wanted and felt bad about it.a serving of ice cream tho...or a serving of nuts...
REally...it's not going to make you fat..
I eat lots of treats and still lose weight...you don't have to deprive yourself...
What is going to happen when you just can't deprive yourself any longer and you binge.....what will you do then? totally give up?
Might be just me, but that wouldn't make me feel full. I know it because I've tried eating until I was full during the last 3 weeks of Dec. and gained several kgs.
You appear to be taking over OP's thread now, but I see you said what I was looking for with my question:
What do you mean by "filling," then? Do you mean emotional? Or mental, in the sense that one can't think of anything but food until it's been consumed, etc.?
Because those are not issues with foods; those are behavioral issues, or disordered eating habits (binging, over-restricting, etc.).0 -
I meant to quote that. And I went and got the blood work and resting metabolic rate test done at a gym, and my metabolism is very low. According to most charts i should have rmr of about 1394, but mine is 1167. So to actually loose without spending two hours in the gym every day, I was told to eat a thousand calories a day by a nutritionist. That makes a lot of salads with minimal dressings, vegetable soups, and yogurts. So, I basically eat salads, soups, steamed veggies and yogurt. Sometimes a veggie sausage patty, usually a string cheese. Lots of fruit.
And my mom is physically active, sleeps enough, and never ever ever gets sick. I also don't think shes ate anything processed, or non free range/organic/locally farmed in years.
not sure I would trust the test done at a gym...nor would I trust a "nutritionalist" period...registered dietician maybe...as long as they were current on their studies.
What kind of gym has the type of setup and staff required to perform an actual metabolic rate test?0 -
I eat salads, with a very very small amount of dressing, vegetable based soups, fruit, yogurt, vegetables steamed, low calorie vegetable dishes such as amy's light and lean vegan meals. On weekends I will add in some veggie sausage patties, brown rice, etc because I have more calorie burn on those days0
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I meant to quote that. And I went and got the blood work and resting metabolic rate test done at a gym, and my metabolism is very low. According to most charts i should have rmr of about 1394, but mine is 1167. So to actually loose without spending two hours in the gym every day, I was told to eat a thousand calories a day by a nutritionist. That makes a lot of salads with minimal dressings, vegetable soups, and yogurts. So, I basically eat salads, soups, steamed veggies and yogurt. Sometimes a veggie sausage patty, usually a string cheese. Lots of fruit.
And my mom is physically active, sleeps enough, and never ever ever gets sick. I also don't think shes ate anything processed, or non free range/organic/locally farmed in years.
not sure I would trust the test done at a gym...nor would I trust a "nutritionalist" period...registered dietician maybe...as long as they were current on their studies.
What kind of gym has the type of setup and staff required to perform an actual metabolic rate test?
exactly...and how much did that cost and does the nutrionalist work for the same gym?0 -
You should incorporate them into your meal plans.
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And when I say filling, I mean that you have ate enough so that people don't comment on your stomach growling all day.0
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You are craving high fat and protein foods because your body is screaming to get these essential macros! Please be good to yourself!I eat salads, with a very very small amount of dressing, vegetable based soups, fruit, yogurt, vegetables steamed, low calorie vegetable dishes such as amy's light and lean vegan meals. On weekends I will add in some veggie sausage patties, brown rice, etc because I have more calorie burn on those days0 -
exactly...and how much did that cost and does the nutritionist work for the same gym?
It cost about $300 and the nutritionist is one who works for the hospital and comes and lectures on healthy eating at the gym for the community. She works for Texas Health Resources which is a hospital chain0 -
its proven that one cheat day is ok for you. and during the week when you crave salty or sweet things drink a big glass of water and then eat some fruit or a handful of mixed nuts. and your body never loses its cravings. your body craves things for a reason. they have charts on what different cravinngs mean and why.0
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You appear to be taking over OP's thread now, but I see you said what I was looking for with my question:
What do you mean by "filling," then? Do you mean emotional? Or mental, in the sense that one can't think of anything but food until it's been consumed, etc.?
Because those are not issues with foods; those are behavioral issues, or disordered eating habits (binging, over-restricting, etc.).
It is certanly not my purpose to take anyone's thread away, but since everyone kept saying "I eat ice cream/pizza/treats everyday and still lose weight", I actually wanted to share my experience, since I feel close to what the OP is trying to say. This never worked for me and I know how hard it is. Haven't got much else to say, I'm happy to hear that there are other people who can feel satisfied by eating their portions of treats everyday while fitting into their daily goals etc., I'm just sad that me and the OP and lots of other people like us might not be as successful in doing the same thing (or just not yet, hopefully).0 -
exactly...and how much did that cost and does the nutritionist work for the same gym?
It cost about $300 and the nutritionist is one who works for the hospital and comes and lectures on healthy eating at the gym for the community. She works for Texas Health Resources which is a hospital chain
did your test do this?
"During the Resting Metabolic Rate test you will be asked to relax in a chair while your oxygen uptake, carbon dioxide output, and electrocardiogram (EKG) are measured for 16 to 20 minutes. To measure the amount of oxygen your body is using and carbon dioxide it is producing, you will be asked to wear a face mask that covers your mouth and nose (similar to an airplane pilot’s mask). The face mask will not provide you with extra air, you will only be breathing from the air in the environment. Ten EKG stickers and leads will be attached to your chest to monitor your heart rate and rhythm. It is very important that you remain as relaxed as possible to get the most accurate results. "
If not get your money back
As for the nutrionalist they aren't the same as a registered dietician and I am always skeptical of them as there is little they have to do to becomeone unlike a RD who has to go to University and get a degree and specialize and stay current.0 -
Yup yup fuel and enjoyment!
This makes me sad! Food is fuel, yes, but it is also meant to be enjoyed.yep. That's how my mom does it. If you like eating it. DO NOT EAT IT. My parents simply never buy chips, sweets, cheese, nuts, etc. My dad jokes that they live on baked fish, kale and dust. My mom says you loose the cravings completely after 6-9 months if you never give in.
Makes me sad too. I eat all those things. When you learn to monitor your portions and servings it can work, you won't crave them as much and you'll eat less of it when you do eat it because your body gets used to the moderation instead of the indulgence. I eat chocolate and ice cream like every day. Learning to have a healthy relationship with food and balance is important.0 -
You do realize that is your resting metabolic rate and related to your basal metabolic rate (I don't remember the exact equation). You do burn more calories than this by doing things like getting up to go to the bathroom, showering, doing dishes, etc. Not to mention you go to the gym. You do not need to eat 1000 calories a day to lose weight.I meant to quote that. And I went and got the blood work and resting metabolic rate test done at a gym, and my metabolism is very low. According to most charts i should have rmr of about 1394, but mine is 1167. So to actually loose without spending two hours in the gym every day, I was told to eat a thousand calories a day by a nutritionist. That makes a lot of salads with minimal dressings, vegetable soups, and yogurts. So, I basically eat salads, soups, steamed veggies and yogurt. Sometimes a veggie sausage patty, usually a string cheese. Lots of fruit.
And my mom is physically active, sleeps enough, and never ever ever gets sick. I also don't think shes ate anything processed, or non free range/organic/locally farmed in years.0 -
I've eaten almost every single one of those things in the last week.I miss...chips and salsa. Chips and Guac. F lamming Cheetos. More than one dinky ounce of cheese. Potatoes with cheese and salsa and onions and peppers..a whole baked one. Ice cream. Cashews. Damn I really miss cashews. Nuts. Peanut butter. One spoon is pathetic. Hummus. Chick Peas out of the can. Cheese enchilada. Eggplant Parm. Garlic bread with cheese. Eggs with cheese, peppers, onions, diced potatoes and salsa scrambled. Hash browns.
Sounds like the list I made in my head when I asked myself "how can I eat healthy?"0 -
I meant to quote that. And I went and got the blood work and resting metabolic rate test done at a gym, and my metabolism is very low. According to most charts i should have rmr of about 1394, but mine is 1167. So to actually loose without spending two hours in the gym every day, I was told to eat a thousand calories a day by a nutritionist. That makes a lot of salads with minimal dressings, vegetable soups, and yogurts. So, I basically eat salads, soups, steamed veggies and yogurt. Sometimes a veggie sausage patty, usually a string cheese. Lots of fruit.
And my mom is physically active, sleeps enough, and never ever ever gets sick. I also don't think shes ate anything processed, or non free range/organic/locally farmed in years.
not sure I would trust the test done at a gym...nor would I trust a "nutritionalist" period...registered dietician maybe...as long as they were current on their studies.
What kind of gym has the type of setup and staff required to perform an actual metabolic rate test?
RMR is very similar to BMR. Thus you would lose weight if you ate at a calorie goal of your RMR. 1000 calories is an excessively low calorie amount, and it is setting you up for failure. This is not to mention that I doubt the number from the gym's test as testing BMR or RMR is far more complex than could be done in the average gym.0 -
You do not have to make yourself unhappy to lose weight, you really don't. This strange obsession people seem to have with food based punishment (denying themselves things to th point of unhappiness) really really blows my mind. Why do you feel you have to suffer?
I would suggest a therapist. (For both the OP and that chick who apparently can't eat to satisfaction without gaining weight.)0 -
yep. That's how my mom does it. If you like eating it. DO NOT EAT IT. My parents simply never buy chips, sweets, cheese, nuts, etc. My dad jokes that they live on baked fish, kale and dust. My mom says you loose the cravings completely after 6-9 months if you never give in.
Sounds miserable0 -
yep. That's how my mom does it. If you like eating it. DO NOT EAT IT. My parents simply never buy chips, sweets, cheese, nuts, etc. My dad jokes that they live on baked fish, kale and dust. My mom says you loose the cravings completely after 6-9 months if you never give in.
So what Momma says goes???? My vote is Throw Momma from the train! Seriously....when I read your original,post and it started with you missing chips, I could relate because Im just starting out and I know for a fact that if I were to have chips right now it would throw me off. But as the list went on I cant see any reason why you cant have eggs with peppers, or baked potato....just allot for them, its a matter of balance is what I am experiencing, I wont waste my calories on nuts because I dont like them that much, but if I wanted to I could. The other day I wanted oatmeal for breakfast, but I love my oatmeal with brown sugar, butter, and some dried cherries....I counted it all and at the end of the day it worked out to around the same calories as 2 poached eggs, turkey bacon and toast. Well.....I wont be having oatmeal again anytime soon lol. Lesson learned! Balance...its all about balance, good portion control and better habits. Good luck! Personally Id love to see you prove your Momma wrong!0 -
You have a very distorted idea of weight loss and maintenance, and you're setting yourself up to fail.
Also I don't get this. What's weightloss and maintenance then?
:huh:0
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