RMR Test Results- Very Very Surprised
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I don't even get what the point of your post was, OP.
"I tested my RMR and it was higher than I thought so I'm gonna eat less"
Cool story, bro.
Anything is possible when you try hard and believe in your dreams, opie.0 -
Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................0
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I don't even get what the point of your post was, OP.
"I tested my RMR and it was higher than I thought so I'm gonna eat less"
Cool story, bro.
Anything is possible when you try hard and believe in your dreams, opie.
No. Here's a couple of the points:
1- That metabolic damage/slowdown and aggressive deficit calorie reduction do not necessarily go hand in hand.
2- If you want to lose lots of weight quick;y.- Eat less, not more. Controversial, I know......0 -
What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
U mad bro?
I got it. You still don't.
Enjoy your preaching. It usually goes pretty well for people who start out like this on these forums. I'm looking forward to your educating us.
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What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
The study I cited above says differently. Overweight and obese people lost both body fat and muscle mass while in a calorie deficit. Their bodies did not burn through all the fat before burning through the muscle.
Here's study about elite athletes and how rates of weight loss impact lean body mass and performance during weight loss. TL;DR - the slower losers have the edge
Effect of two different weight-loss rates on body composition and strength and power-related performance in elite athletes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/215585710 -
What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
The study I cited above says differently. Overweight and obese people lost both body fat and muscle mass while in a calorie deficit. Their bodies did not burn through all the fat before burning through the muscle.
Here's study about elite athletes and how rates of weight loss impact lean body mass and performance during weight loss. TL;DR - the slower losers have the edge
Effect of two different weight-loss rates on body composition and strength and power-related performance in elite athletes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558571
Weight loss without losing muscle mass in pre-obese and obese subjects induced by a high-soy-protein diet.
CONCLUSIONS:
Our data suggest that a high-soy-protein and low-fat diet can improve the body composition in overweight and obese people, losing fat but preserving muscle mass.
Where is the massive LBM loss of the subjects due to caloric deficit in the test and control groups???0 -
Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................
No offence dude, but that sounds miserable.
I had six Hershey's Kisses with my morning cup of tea, then did my p90x3 workout, ate half a cup of oats with milk and protein powder, made a chicken salad with 200g of chicken and jalapeno peppers and cheese, then walk to work, work for five hours, walk back (45 minute walking commute each way) cook a bomb-*kitten* lean beef chilli con carne with plenty of veggies, go for a 3 mile run and come home, shower and go to bed. Sometimes I'll have a boiled egg or two or some toast if I have the macros for it.
What I don't understand is why you would deprive yourself, arguments about LBM etc aside, when you could have more and enjoy your food? Don't you struggle through your exercise without adequate calories? Doesn't it make you grumpy?
Edited to add: I would love to see some before/after shots of your progress, OP. Generally when I see people lose weight quickly through low calorie diets and overexercising, they look flabby and have lots of loose skin. If you look like the adonis you describe, I'll be much more interested in your opinions.0 -
What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
The study I cited above says differently. Overweight and obese people lost both body fat and muscle mass while in a calorie deficit. Their bodies did not burn through all the fat before burning through the muscle.
Here's study about elite athletes and how rates of weight loss impact lean body mass and performance during weight loss. TL;DR - the slower losers have the edge
Effect of two different weight-loss rates on body composition and strength and power-related performance in elite athletes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558571
Weight loss without losing muscle mass in pre-obese and obese subjects induced by a high-soy-protein diet.
CONCLUSIONS:
Our data suggest that a high-soy-protein and low-fat diet can improve the body composition in overweight and obese people, losing fat but preserving muscle mass.
The first group who was not on the diet also lost weight, but they lost muscle mass in addition to fat. How is this possible if the human body burns through fat stores before muscle mass as you claim?0 -
What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
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Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................
No offence dude, but that sounds miserable.
I had six Hershey's Kisses with my morning cup of tea, then did my p90x3 workout, ate half a cup of oats with milk and protein powder, made a chicken salad with 200g of chicken and jalapeno peppers and cheese, then walk to work, work for five hours, walk back (45 minute walking commute each way) cook a bomb-*kitten* lean beef chilli con carne with plenty of veggies, go for a 3 mile run and come home, shower and go to bed. Sometimes I'll have a boiled egg or two or some toast if I have the macros for it.
What I don't understand is why you would deprive yourself, arguments about LBM etc aside, when you could have more and enjoy your food? Don't you struggle through your exercise without adequate calories? Doesn't it make you grumpy?
I got the eye on the prize. And I am more than willing to make some sacrifices to be stronger, leaner, and healthier than stuff my pie hole with Hersey kisses. Dude, its just food, it aint all that important. I can get by on 900 calories in the short term. I won't be wasting away anytime soon. despite the hysteria you read in these forums. And I dont feel grumpy over food. I'll ramp up the calories next week and everything will be good. I'll be at 213 with a new lower baseline and ready to take off the last 4 pounds. Sounds cool to me!0 -
Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................
No offence dude, but that sounds miserable.
I had six Hershey's Kisses with my morning cup of tea, then did my p90x3 workout, ate half a cup of oats with milk and protein powder, made a chicken salad with 200g of chicken and jalapeno peppers and cheese, then walk to work, work for five hours, walk back (45 minute walking commute each way) cook a bomb-*kitten* lean beef chilli con carne with plenty of veggies, go for a 3 mile run and come home, shower and go to bed. Sometimes I'll have a boiled egg or two or some toast if I have the macros for it.
What I don't understand is why you would deprive yourself, arguments about LBM etc aside, when you could have more and enjoy your food? Don't you struggle through your exercise without adequate calories? Doesn't it make you grumpy?
Edited to add: I would love to see some before/after shots of your progress, OP. Generally when I see people lose weight quickly through low calorie diets and overexercising, they look flabby and have lots of loose skin. If you look like the adonis you describe, I'll be much more interested in your opinions.
I want a 5 hour work day. :ohwell:
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What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
The study I cited above says differently. Overweight and obese people lost both body fat and muscle mass while in a calorie deficit. Their bodies did not burn through all the fat before burning through the muscle.
Here's study about elite athletes and how rates of weight loss impact lean body mass and performance during weight loss. TL;DR - the slower losers have the edge
Effect of two different weight-loss rates on body composition and strength and power-related performance in elite athletes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558571
Weight loss without losing muscle mass in pre-obese and obese subjects induced by a high-soy-protein diet.
CONCLUSIONS:
Our data suggest that a high-soy-protein and low-fat diet can improve the body composition in overweight and obese people, losing fat but preserving muscle mass.
The first group who was not on the diet also lost weight, but they lost muscle mass in addition to fat. How is this possible if the human body burns through fat stores before muscle mass as you claim?
Where is that listed in this study. that is not what is in this abstract or conclusion???0 -
Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................
No offence dude, but that sounds miserable.
I had six Hershey's Kisses with my morning cup of tea, then did my p90x3 workout, ate half a cup of oats with milk and protein powder, made a chicken salad with 200g of chicken and jalapeno peppers and cheese, then walk to work, work for five hours, walk back (45 minute walking commute each way) cook a bomb-*kitten* lean beef chilli con carne with plenty of veggies, go for a 3 mile run and come home, shower and go to bed. Sometimes I'll have a boiled egg or two or some toast if I have the macros for it.
What I don't understand is why you would deprive yourself, arguments about LBM etc aside, when you could have more and enjoy your food? Don't you struggle through your exercise without adequate calories? Doesn't it make you grumpy?
Edited to add: I would love to see some before/after shots of your progress, OP. Generally when I see people lose weight quickly through low calorie diets and overexercising, they look flabby and have lots of loose skin. If you look like the adonis you describe, I'll be much more interested in your opinions.
I want a 5 hour work day. :ohwell:
:flowerforyou:
Move to Japan and teach screaming *kitten* kids.0 -
So.... what exactly makes you think your body doesn't catabolize muscle when you have fat stores?
If this were true everyone who loses weight from being significantly obese to healthy weight would be built like a brickhouse. Skinny-fat would only be a problem for people who aren't ambulatory.0 -
What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
Wow! solid retort...............0 -
Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................
No offence dude, but that sounds miserable.
I had six Hershey's Kisses with my morning cup of tea, then did my p90x3 workout, ate half a cup of oats with milk and protein powder, made a chicken salad with 200g of chicken and jalapeno peppers and cheese, then walk to work, work for five hours, walk back (45 minute walking commute each way) cook a bomb-*kitten* lean beef chilli con carne with plenty of veggies, go for a 3 mile run and come home, shower and go to bed. Sometimes I'll have a boiled egg or two or some toast if I have the macros for it.
What I don't understand is why you would deprive yourself, arguments about LBM etc aside, when you could have more and enjoy your food? Don't you struggle through your exercise without adequate calories? Doesn't it make you grumpy?
I got the eye on the prize. And I am more than willing to make some sacrifices to be stronger, leaner, and healthier than stuff my pie hole with Hersey kisses. Dude, its just food, it aint all that important. I can get by on 900 calories in the short term. I won't be wasting away anytime soon. despite the hysteria you read in these forums. And I dont feel grumpy over food. I'll ramp up the calories next week and everything will be good. I'll be at 213 with a new lower baseline and ready to take off the last 4 pounds. Sounds cool to me!
Oh cool, so I'm less dedicated than you because I eat chocolates? I don't have my "eye on the prize", clearly.
I guess I'll just tell those 70lbs I already lost to come on back because I'm not serious enough.0 -
I'm thinking poor scotty is just hungry, and that is making him overly testy. Can't believe he's this wound up already after 120ish posts here.
Eat some food, you'll be much happier. Really. :flowerforyou:0 -
Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio burns. And 3 days of cardio with 600 calorie burns. I think I will do a protein shake and 2 grilled chicken caesar salads for each day of the week. That will be 900 calories of food per day. Counting excercise that will be at least 2000 calorie deficits per day and 14,000 for the week. That should be a 4 pound weight loss for the week. Hmmmm. Sounds intriguing!!! I just hope I don't go into starvation mode and lose all that lean body mass! LOL. Either that or I could always "eat more to lose more"...................
No offence dude, but that sounds miserable.
I had six Hershey's Kisses with my morning cup of tea, then did my p90x3 workout, ate half a cup of oats with milk and protein powder, made a chicken salad with 200g of chicken and jalapeno peppers and cheese, then walk to work, work for five hours, walk back (45 minute walking commute each way) cook a bomb-*kitten* lean beef chilli con carne with plenty of veggies, go for a 3 mile run and come home, shower and go to bed. Sometimes I'll have a boiled egg or two or some toast if I have the macros for it.
What I don't understand is why you would deprive yourself, arguments about LBM etc aside, when you could have more and enjoy your food? Don't you struggle through your exercise without adequate calories? Doesn't it make you grumpy?
Edited to add: I would love to see some before/after shots of your progress, OP. Generally when I see people lose weight quickly through low calorie diets and overexercising, they look flabby and have lots of loose skin. If you look like the adonis you describe, I'll be much more interested in your opinions.
I want a 5 hour work day. :ohwell:
:flowerforyou:
Move to Japan and teach screaming *kitten* kids.
:laugh: My respect for you has just tripled. :drinker:0 -
Newbie with closed diary and no pics joins MFP and starts telling everyone they're wrong about everything.
Film at 11.0 -
How do you expect someone to respond to an arrogant and condescending post like yours?What the Hell are you on about, scotty?
There are lots of people here who have lost a lot of weight. Don't assume you know everything.
Mostly because - Newsflash - you don't.
What do those bodybuilders' pictures have to do with any of this?
No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident.
And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you were not paying attention to. The picture illustrates the balancing act that an elite athlete has in balancing weight loss from 300lbs down to 255lbs. And how that will effect LBM in reality. This problem does not generally apply to obese people who have plenty of fat stores and limited muscle mass. They won't be wasting away anytime soon....Now you get it?
Wow! solid retort...............
and for the record obese people generally have plenty of LBM from carrying the extra weight, not limited muscle mass.0
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