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7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast

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  • Posts: 1,169 Member
    Humans are omnivores, not carnivores. We need fruits and vegetables. Your diet is seriously lacking in fiber and you can't be getting all the micronutrients you need.
    Not to nitpick - but we need fruits OR vegetables. :-) I'm sure you know this QuietBloom, but I thought I'd add it for clarity's sake for those reading this that aren't aware.

    There is no vitamin or nutrient found in fruit that's not also found in vegetables - but with a lot less calories and sugar overall. For those of us that do need to watch overall caloric, carbohydrate and/or sugar intake, non-starchy vegetables are a superior choice.

    That being said I still eat fruit DAILY - albeit small amounts of berries (the lowest-glycemic and highest-fiber fruit available). I like 'em and they thicken my LCHF protein shake.
  • Posts: 413 Member

    Just wanted to say I'm glad you have found a way of eating that helps you medically! And I also wanted to say that FlaxMilk is a really swell person, and you might want to rethink your block. :flowerforyou:

    Thank you for the message.

    That may be so. But every day I hear how I'm wrong about everything that comes out of my mouth when I'm here from one person or another and it gets tiresome.

    It was my opinion from what I have personally observed.... I didn't need to be repeatedly told I was wrong when I've experienced it first hand. I was sitting there I know what happened.. So how can I always be wrong?
  • Posts: 64 Member
    This is what I ate today

    Breakfast
    4 frozen sausage patties, stick of pepperjack cheese

    Snack
    Pork Rinds

    Lunch
    10 buffalo style chicken wings

    Dinner

    Ceasar salad half a cup of lettuce. 2 tablespoons of dressing
    3 grilled chicken wings
    Some shredded roast pork
    Grilled chicken thigh

    I took two multivitamins in the morning. Feeling good still today. Going to see if I need to up my carbs before bed like I did last night. So far Im feeling good again.

    So all your eating it meat?? basically that can't be good
  • Posts: 64 Member

    At first glance that looks like a lot of calories to me, though it depends on the exact portions. You might try substituting some of that meat with vegetables and only take the recommended dosage of multivitamins. More likely if you need to supplement anything, it's electrolytes which aren't found in large amounts in multivitamins.

    EAT MORE VEGETABLES!!!!
  • Posts: 64 Member
    On my own study of one I did calorie counting and it didn't work. I know of 4 other people personally who did weight watcher (didn't work).

    I have 2 close friends who are low carb and they are both very sporty and have lost and maintained on low carb.

    Therefore by your logic - calorie counting must not work!!!!

    I don't count calories either i'm just more conscious of what i'm putting in my mouth! counting calories made me crazy and didn't lose weight until I stopped ! but for some they still want to eat doritos and taco Bell for the rest of their life and eat a calorie deficit thinking that that's the healthy way, I said it before I eat to live not live to eat. My life wont suck if I can't eat taco bell every week!
  • Posts: 514 Member
    Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
  • Posts: 3,730 Member

    Thank you for the message.

    That may be so. But every day I hear how I'm wrong about everything that comes out of my mouth when I'm here from one person or another and it gets tiresome.

    It was my opinion from what I have personally observed.... I didn't need to be repeatedly told I was wrong when I've experienced it first hand. I was sitting there I know what happened.. So how can I always be wrong?

    I don't want to negate your feelings, because I understand that you felt piled on and that's unfortunate, really. And I genuinely don't want to come across as pressuring you, because... well, I don't want you to feel pressured! :smile:
    I do agree with QuietBloom that Flaxmilk seems like a swell and balanced person. I can't say that about every poster I've encountered on these forums. This thread just... well... it just wasn't such a great place.
    I also hope that you will re-consider the block.
  • Posts: 5,609 Member
    Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."

    Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!
  • Posts: 10,161 Member

    Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!

    Which is why I encourage learning sustainable, practical eating instead of fad diets like low carb.
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    Which is why I encourage learning sustainable, practical eating instead of fad diets like low carb.

    It's been around a lot longer than calorie counting and other such diets - maybe past the fad stage by now?

    http://www.diapedia.org/introduction/history-to-1900
    http://notchbynotch.com/tag/diet-history/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE
    http://www.jameslindlibrary.org/illustrating/articles/the-introduction-of-successful-treatment-of-diabetes-mellitus-wi
  • Posts: 10,161 Member
    Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways
  • Posts: 64 Member
    Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways


    What is normal??
  • Posts: 64 Member


    What is normal??

    Just curious what your definition is for normal common foods?? because for everyone that might mean something different.
  • Posts: 413 Member

    Just curious what your definition is for normal common foods?? because for everyone that might mean something different.


    I agree. What I eat I consider normal.. I don't think I am eating abnormally.... Who is to say pizza and sandwiches and Taco Bell are normal but meat and veggies aren't normal.
  • Posts: 3,730 Member

    It's been around a lot longer than calorie counting and other such diets - maybe past the fad stage by now?

    http://www.diapedia.org/introduction/history-to-1900

    " A meat (low carbohydrate) diet was introduced at the start of the nineteenth century, and was followed by many other special diets. Restricted calorie intake may have been the common factor in determining success, but patients tended to rebel against the more demanding regimens. "

    C'mon... because they tried it as treatment for diabetes, then tried other things? Not exactly supportive as evidence that the low carb lifestyle was a "thing" back then.
  • Posts: 3,096 Member

    Surely the same goes for everyone? Stop dieting and gain your weight back!

    I agree...I have already accepted that I will probably always have to track my calories in some shape form or fashion if I want to maintain my weight loss. I will always have to make sure that I am active at a certain level.

    I think knowing yourself and accepting certain things about yourself is the key to many of us being able to maintain.

    The funny thing is...people that don't limit any certain food group fails at maintaining at a fairly high rate according to statistics. I couldn't do low carb...I tried...I sucked at it!

    I have noticed one thing though...I don't crave carbs as much since I have "tried" to keep my sodium at 1500mg. Pasta without salt...IMO...is just not good. That is one thing I have noticed...the carbs that I once enjoyed...all need sodium...at least for me.
  • Posts: 5,609 Member
    Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways

    That's it then. It's all been for nothing.

    Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.

    Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?
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    I agree. What I eat I consider normal.. I don't think I am eating abnormally.... Who is to say pizza and sandwiches and Taco Bell are normal but meat and veggies aren't normal.

    ALNoog... you have health issues that have modified your eating. You have a new normal. His comments aren't necessarily directed at you, okie doke? :smile: Remember... you surely do not eat like the OP and you wouldn't want to.
  • Posts: 5,609 Member

    " A meat (low carbohydrate) diet was introduced at the start of the nineteenth century, and was followed by many other special diets. Restricted calorie intake may have been the common factor in determining success, but patients tended to rebel against the more demanding regimens. "

    C'mon... because they tried it as treatment for diabetes, then tried other things? Not exactly supportive as evidence that the low carb lifestyle was a "thing" back then.

    But its not a fad - at worst it's retro. Although retro does make it sound cool.

    Low Carb Retro Eating strategy - LCRES (I like it).
  • Posts: 80 Member
    Why do low carb? Is that a way you can maintain a lifestyle? Better to find a nutrional lifestyle you can live with and keep going. It becomes your lifestyle and not a diet. Good luck!!
  • Posts: 413 Member

    That's it then. It's all been for nothing.

    Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.

    Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?

    Lol ok I know you are being facetious BUT... You should try this chicken I've been making!! We eat it a few times a week.

    Take chicken breast and top with fresh basil paste and wrap in bacon and when it's completely cooked top with mozzella until melted!
    Even though you weren't actually asking what to cook for dinner ;)
  • Posts: 5,263 Member
    You should start mentally preparing yourself for weight gain starting in 7 days.

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    This!!!
  • Posts: 453 Member
    Personally, I wouldn't want to do anything that made me feel lethargic or dizzy. The overall goal here is to get healthier. And there's no way you can stick with this plan for life. Sooner or later, guess what? You're going to need and want carbs because you've been depriving yourself and you haven't learned how to have them in moderation to live out the rest of your days without regaining. I don't know of any person that has remained ultra low carb in maintenance for a few years/kept the weight off.
  • Posts: 64 Member

    That's it then. It's all been for nothing.

    Jonny has spoken and now we must all follow his diet (which actually isn't a diet) its and eating strategy (or something like that), but NOT a diet.

    Okay, what shall I have for dinner tonight, cause I've only got low carb stuff in and I don't want to fall off the 'Jonny no diet' eating strategy first day?

    make sure you are eating NORMAL foods , cause you don't want to be a failure if you try to eat healthy all the time, society says Taco bell is normal so that's what you should eat to be successful, oh as long as you count your calories then you are completely not dieting!!
  • Posts: 5,609 Member

    Lol ok I know you are being facetious BUT... You should try this chicken I've been making!! We eat it a few times a week.

    Take chicken breast and top with fresh basil pase and wrap in bacon and when it's completely cooked top with mozzella until melted!
    Even though you weren't actually asking what to cook for dinner ;)

    That does sound nice and if LCRES ever gets the thumbs up from Jonny, I'm going to give a try.
  • Posts: 413 Member

    ALNoog... you have health issues that have modified your eating. You have a new normal. His comments aren't necessarily directed at you, okie doke? :smile: Remember... you surely do not eat like the OP and you wouldn't want to.


    ;) oh I know it want directed toward me. I was just chiming in on tennisdudes argument

    OP is in his own little world. And he just sort of mashed 100 different "diets" together
  • Posts: 64 Member

    Lol ok I know you are being facetious BUT... You should try this chicken I've been making!! We eat it a few times a week.

    Take chicken breast and top with fresh basil pase and wrap in bacon and when it's completely cooked top with mozzella until melted!
    Even though you weren't actually asking what to cook for dinner ;)


    Hmm I was gonna have chicken tonight, I'm gonna wrap it in bacon now, Mmmmmm!
  • Posts: 95 Member
    Enjoy gaining all the weight back when you're done "dieting."
    You too!!
  • Posts: 3,096 Member
    Nope. I consider it a fad diet. Refer to it however you wish, but I think it's an unsustainable plan intended to be a quick fix. It does not teach you how to eat like a normal person by eating normal common foods, just in moderated ways

    "Normal person"??? I don't know...are any of us normal?

    "Normal common foods"...I think they are more dependent upon demographics and change throughout time. Growing up it was normal to eat fried food where I lived. It was normal to add sugar to everything. My mother bought 5-10lbs every time we went grocery shopping. It was not normal for us to eat seafood.

    My "normal common foods" have changed...I don't fry...I don't own any sugar...I now eat seafood. I eat things that I didn't even know existed as a child.

    One of my favorite things to eat growing up was a wilted salad...hot bacon grease poured over right before it was served. I wouldn't eat it now...well...maybe...but it wouldn't be considered "normal common food" in my house.

    Normal people...normal common food...is dependent upon the individual.
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