7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast
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It blows my mind that people are so concerned with other peoples business on here..... I don't go to IIFYM posts and preach low carb to them because they are adults and chose their plans and I am an adult and chose mine. I don't know their stories and reasons for choosing their lifestyle nor do they know mine. I look for people similar to what I am going through and don't even mess with the rest. If I don't focus on me and my goals I will never reach them.
I had a Jehovas witness some to my door Saturday and that's COMPLETELY not my thing... But I talked to him for a bit and accepted his pamphlet and he went on his way. Our beliefs were completely opposite but never once did he tell me my religion was wrong and never once did I tell him his religion was wrong....
Same goes for "diets" who is anyone to tell someone that the path they chose for themselves is wrong? I'm an adult and I decide what I am going to do and you are an adult and you go chose what you are going to do.... But NO, strangers on the internet you don't get to decide how I eat...
The title of this thread:
"7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast"
The OP:Ive been low carbing now for 23 days and felt ok, but ever since the last 11 days hit of my 30 day diet I am feeling only enough energy to do normal things like sit around the house. Im eating 30 grams a day at about 1500 calories. I lost 10 pounds on the scale so maybe 5 of that is water weight, but I look and feel thinner. Whats the longest yall have done a very low carb induction rate? And whats with my energy being alright till the 19th day of low carbing and then now seems like everything has started to bug me.
It seems to me that this is not, in fact, a "low carb success" thread.
OP does not seem either happy or successful.
Also, I haven't read the thread, so I have no idea how long you have been pursuing a low carb diet and your profile is private, so I have nothing to go by but your profile picture. From that, it appears that you have been pursuing weight loss for about a year.
I think it's premature to say that you have had long term success from eating low carb.
You didn't read the thread yet you are commenting on it?
Yes we've already established they the OP is in his own dream world and NOT doing low carb.
You make assumptions based on a picture? Thats funny... No I haven't been trying to lose weight for a year.... The first picture was taken in August... Didn't say I started in August..and August to March is hardly a year.....
Once again as I've said a MILLION times... You don't know my story so don't judge me... I don't know yours so I wont judge you ... But to decide you have me alllll figured out from one picture is ridiculous.
And as for the disease I have that REQUIRES me to do low carb, yes I have had great success in controlling my symptoms... So thanks for taking the time to get to know me and that information before judging me and assuming I'm on a soda and sausage crash diet like the OP
This thread is in my thread history.
I haven't read every post, therefore, I might have missed where you mentioned that you have had long-term success at eating low carb.
What are you getting so butthurt for?
I didn't JUDGE you.
NOT ONCE did I say you were on a crash diet or even commented on what on earth you might possibly eat or why.
*YOU* put yourself up as a weight loss maintenance success story.
*I* merely commented that I don't see how you can say that based on evidence you've presented (which is only your profile picture, as I said.)
I wouldn't put MYSELF up as a long-term calorie counting success story.
I'm still losing gradually, moving towards maintenance, but I'm not there yet. The sustainability of my weight loss is still TBD.
Try reading EXACTLY what I wrote in a monotone voice in your head. I think it would give you some perspective on what I *actually* said as opposed to what you *perceive* I said.0 -
It blows my mind that people are so concerned with other peoples business on here..... I don't go to IIFYM posts and preach low carb to them because they are adults and chose their plans and I am an adult and chose mine. I don't know their stories and reasons for choosing their lifestyle nor do they know mine. I look for people similar to what I am going through and don't even mess with the rest. If I don't focus on me and my goals I will never reach them.
I had a Jehovas witness some to my door Saturday and that's COMPLETELY not my thing... But I talked to him for a bit and accepted his pamphlet and he went on his way. Our beliefs were completely opposite but never once did he tell me my religion was wrong and never once did I tell him his religion was wrong....
Same goes for "diets" who is anyone to tell someone that the path they chose for themselves is wrong? I'm an adult and I decide what I am going to do and you are an adult and you go chose what you are going to do.... But NO, strangers on the internet you don't get to decide how I eat...
The original post said that the OP had "lack of energy" and was "struggling" due to their low carb diet...so what is wrong with people offering an alternative when the OP clearly stated that he/she was having problems with their existing diet??
It is not like the title of the thread was "Day 7 on low carb, doing great and looking for friends" If that was the topic then your argument may have some validity.. but then again it is a public thread and anyone can comment, no matter what your personal preference is.
Agreed the OP should have bailed out a week ago if they are not going to be doing it long term. Why go through the transition process and not continue.
If I was them and could sustain calorie counting I would have jumped back on the carbs.
I think this thread has turned into the 'normal LCHF' thread is because of people posting comments about LCHF not working because it is not sustainable.
I think if something doesn't work for the person posting that comment it's a bit stupid to think that the same will apply to the other 7 billion people in the world!0 -
On my own study of one I did calorie counting and it didn't work. I know of 4 other people personally who did weight watcher (didn't work).
I have 2 close friends who are low carb and they are both very sporty and have lost and maintained on low carb.
Therefore by your logic - calorie counting must not work!!!!
I cannot make sense of this sentence.
Your "study" is of a sample size even more statistically insignificant than mine.
My point was, everyone seems to be using anecdotal evidence that LCHF is not a life style change, when I am sure millions of people across the world eating this style would disagree (sorry I don't have all their names) .
As far as this thread goes, if the OP is only doing low car for 30 days - they probably should have bailed from the diet before posting this thread.
Regardless of peoples hang ups LCHF is very much a sustainable diet.
except that when it's YOU using anecdotal evidence, it's somehow more valid than when WE use it.
Give me a relevant example.
The last 2 pages of exchange between you and Jonny and you and me.
I'm not going to bother with copy and paste because making sense of your posts is an exercise in futility and I'm going to the gym tonight. I don't need to burn the extra calories.0 -
I was being anecdotal on purpose! To demonstrate the irrelevance of a statement about someone you know or your sisters, boyfriends, neighbours dog!
In other words to yours and Jonny's previous posts on that page.
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It blows my mind that people are so concerned with other peoples business on here..... I don't go to IIFYM posts and preach low carb to them because they are adults and chose their plans and I am an adult and chose mine. I don't know their stories and reasons for choosing their lifestyle nor do they know mine. I look for people similar to what I am going through and don't even mess with the rest. If I don't focus on me and my goals I will never reach them.
I had a Jehovas witness some to my door Saturday and that's COMPLETELY not my thing... But I talked to him for a bit and accepted his pamphlet and he went on his way. Our beliefs were completely opposite but never once did he tell me my religion was wrong and never once did I tell him his religion was wrong....
Same goes for "diets" who is anyone to tell someone that the path they chose for themselves is wrong? I'm an adult and I decide what I am going to do and you are an adult and you go chose what you are going to do.... But NO, strangers on the internet you don't get to decide how I eat...
You brought up something that has been on my mind lately....people getting along despite out differences. I have this motto that I trying to live by (sometimes I fail at it)...
Acknowledging our differences and sharing our commonalities.
I belonged to a religious forum for several years...though not Christian I did have a lot of the same beliefs. I "thought" that we should be able to build relationships based on our commonalities while respecting each others differences. I "thought" that we could discuss those differences and respect each other despite them. What I found...
That works with some individuals...with others it doesn't. Sadly the ones that it doesn't work with...speak the loudest. I grew weary...so I seldom participate in that group now.
What I found when I came to MFP and started using the forums...it is not much different when it comes to our eating plans. We are passionate about them...almost as much as our beliefs.
We share a common goal...at least most of us do...getting healthy...whether that is through weight loss, fitness...or a combination of both. Just as our beliefs/faith...we have to find what makes sense to us...whether someone else agrees or not.
Despite our different approaches I still think that there are things to learn from each other. Where my problem lies is when someone comes along...calls me a "hater"...simply because I have a different opinion...or I ask a question...or like the case of the OP on this thread...I pointed out an unhealthy action on his part.
Here are my thoughts on any eating plan...can you maintain the weight after reaching goal? I don't know...but in all honesty...I don't know if I will be able to or not. I plan on it...I have started trying to move to that point even though I still have almost 35lbs to go. I have tried to put together a plan that I feel that I can live with the rest of my life. There are still no guarantees however.
IMO...if low carb is how you want to eat...then you have as much chance as I do in succeeding. IMO...it is not the diet as much as it is the individual.
I know...I know...some will disagree with me...but it won't be the first time that someone thought I was wrong...and I admit...sometimes I am.0 -
It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.0 -
I just find it strange that people who are against low carb eating want to discourage others or tell them it doesn't work when in actuality it does. There are tons of people who are changing their eating habits and successfully losing weight on low carb eating and I believe the person asking for advice wanted it from others who eat low carb.
I know a lot of people who have lost weight, and a lot of people who have tried to lose weight and put it back on.
Every. Single. Person. I know who has done "low carb" has found it totally unsustainable in the long term and put the weight back on. Every last one of them. I discourage people from low carb because it is, in the real world, not something people will do for the rest of their lives, and it therefore does not prepare them to maintain a healthy weight for the rest of their lives by teaching them good, sustainable, adaptable, flexible eating habits.
The goal of any dietary change should generally be to learn how to eat for the rest of your life. This means teaching yourself how to eat in any situation. How to moderate high-calorie foods, but still fit them in where you want. What sacrifices you have to make for that piece of pizza or slice of pie. Low carb diets do not teach you how to responsibly enjoy everyday foods that you will be presented with for the upcoming 50 years. They are, in my view, unsustainable short-term fixes that don't actually help anyone learn regular, normal, healthy eating habits.
Also, pretty much everyone on MFP who has demonstrated long-term realistic maintenance after being formerly obese has done so without low carb, and pretty much all of the low-carb advocates on MFP such as yourself lack such a history.
I do not believe you will continue to eat to a calorie controlled diet for the next 5 - 10 years and log all of your food everyday and stopping eating when you are still hungry.
In regards to a majority of people on MFP counting calories successfully - well that's pretty obvious, if they are on the site they are still actively dieting.
What would be more interesting would be to know how many people have signed up to MFP (since it started) compared to how many are actively using it now? If I had to guess I think it would be a less than 50% percentage.
In on year 10, my friend. Not of logging, because that's been on and off. But year 10 of moderation, using the healthy and sustainable habits that IIFYM taught me.
I'll just have to take your word for that Jonny as you've only been logging your food on your diary for just over a year.
Check out my log in 2011. I have a history on SparkPeople before that, and Excel logs dating back to 2004 when I started out around 220 pounds. I haven't been more than 164 since 2004. If you're actually interested.
Where is your history of 10 years of success on low carb? Where are the people who have maintained their weight 10 years on low carb in this thread?0 -
It blows my mind that people are so concerned with other peoples business on here..... I don't go to IIFYM posts and preach low carb to them because they are adults and chose their plans and I am an adult and chose mine. I don't know their stories and reasons for choosing their lifestyle nor do they know mine. I look for people similar to what I am going through and don't even mess with the rest. If I don't focus on me and my goals I will never reach them.
I had a Jehovas witness some to my door Saturday and that's COMPLETELY not my thing... But I talked to him for a bit and accepted his pamphlet and he went on his way. Our beliefs were completely opposite but never once did he tell me my religion was wrong and never once did I tell him his religion was wrong....
Same goes for "diets" who is anyone to tell someone that the path they chose for themselves is wrong? I'm an adult and I decide what I am going to do and you are an adult and you go chose what you are going to do.... But NO, strangers on the internet you don't get to decide how I eat...
You brought up something that has been on my mind lately....people getting along despite out differences. I have this motto that I trying to live by (sometimes I fail at it)...
Acknowledging our differences and sharing our commonalities.
I belonged to a religious forum for several years...though not Christian I did have a lot of the same beliefs. I "thought" that we should be able to build relationships based on our commonalities while respecting each others differences. I "thought" that we could discuss those differences and respect each other despite them. What I found...
That works with some individuals...with others it doesn't. Sadly the ones that it doesn't work with...speak the loudest. I grew weary...so I seldom participate in that group now.
What I found when I came to MFP and started using the forums...it is not much different when it comes to our eating plans. We are passionate about them...almost as much as our beliefs.
We share a common goal...at least most of us do...getting healthy...whether that is through weight loss, fitness...or a combination of both. Just as our beliefs/faith...we have to find what makes sense to us...whether someone else agrees or not.
Despite our different approaches I still think that there are things to learn from each other. Where my problem lies is when someone comes along...calls me a "hater"...simply because I have a different opinion...or I ask a question...or like the case of the OP on this thread...I pointed out an unhealthy action on his part.
Here are my thoughts on any eating plan...can you maintain the weight after reaching goal? I don't know...but in all honesty...I don't know if I will be able to or not. I plan on it...I have started trying to move to that point even though I still have almost 35lbs to go. I have tried to put together a plan that I feel that I can live with the rest of my life. There are still no guarantees however.
IMO...if low carb is how you want to eat...then you have as much chance as I do in succeeding. IMO...it is not the diet as much as it is the individual.
I know...I know...some will disagree with me...but it won't be the first time that someone thought I was wrong...and I admit...sometimes I am.
This is THE most perfect spot on post I have ever read. Beautiful! Thank you so much for posting!0 -
It blows my mind that people are so concerned with other peoples business on here..... I don't go to IIFYM posts and preach low carb to them because they are adults and chose their plans and I am an adult and chose mine. I don't know their stories and reasons for choosing their lifestyle nor do they know mine. I look for people similar to what I am going through and don't even mess with the rest. If I don't focus on me and my goals I will never reach them.
I had a Jehovas witness some to my door Saturday and that's COMPLETELY not my thing... But I talked to him for a bit and accepted his pamphlet and he went on his way. Our beliefs were completely opposite but never once did he tell me my religion was wrong and never once did I tell him his religion was wrong....
Same goes for "diets" who is anyone to tell someone that the path they chose for themselves is wrong? I'm an adult and I decide what I am going to do and you are an adult and you go chose what you are going to do.... But NO, strangers on the internet you don't get to decide how I eat...
You brought up something that has been on my mind lately....people getting along despite out differences. I have this motto that I trying to live by (sometimes I fail at it)...
Acknowledging our differences and sharing our commonalities.
I belonged to a religious forum for several years...though not Christian I did have a lot of the same beliefs. I "thought" that we should be able to build relationships based on our commonalities while respecting each others differences. I "thought" that we could discuss those differences and respect each other despite them. What I found...
That works with some individuals...with others it doesn't. Sadly the ones that it doesn't work with...speak the loudest. I grew weary...so I seldom participate in that group now.
What I found when I came to MFP and started using the forums...it is not much different when it comes to our eating plans. We are passionate about them...almost as much as our beliefs.
We share a common goal...at least most of us do...getting healthy...whether that is through weight loss, fitness...or a combination of both. Just as our beliefs/faith...we have to find what makes sense to us...whether someone else agrees or not.
Despite our different approaches I still think that there are things to learn from each other. Where my problem lies is when someone comes along...calls me a "hater"...simply because I have a different opinion...or I ask a question...or like the case of the OP on this thread...I pointed out an unhealthy action on his part.
Here are my thoughts on any eating plan...can you maintain the weight after reaching goal? I don't know...but in all honesty...I don't know if I will be able to or not. I plan on it...I have started trying to move to that point even though I still have almost 35lbs to go. I have tried to put together a plan that I feel that I can live with the rest of my life. There are still no guarantees however.
IMO...if low carb is how you want to eat...then you have as much chance as I do in succeeding. IMO...it is not the diet as much as it is the individual.
I know...I know...some will disagree with me...but it won't be the first time that someone thought I was wrong...and I admit...sometimes I am.
Actually, I agree with you.
When people get a good grasp of portion control, regardless of what's eaten - low carb or whatever the choice - weight maintenance is going an easier task.
I'm hoping that I will be able to sustain portion control for the rest of my life.0 -
I'll just have to take your word for that Jonny as you've only been logging your food on your diary for just over a year.Check out my log in 2011. I have a history on SparkPeople before that, and Excel logs dating back to 2004 when I started out around 220 pounds. I haven't been more than 164 since 2004. If you're actually interested.
Where is your history of 10 years of success on low carb? Where are the people who have maintained their weight 10 years on low carb in this thread?
I wish I had discovered low carb 10 years ago. I'm recent to it - I have never said otherwise.
All the other low carbers with 10 years plus on the clock (they won't have spread sheets though, as they don't log their food), will be on other forums where 90% are low carbers giving *kitten* to the 10% calorie counters. lol
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It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.0 -
It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.
Been there, done that re: the Ramen.
As much as I respect it, I hope I never have to eat it again. Total burn out. Even now, the thought just makes me unhappy.
I hope your health improves and your success continues.0 -
It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.
Glad you're back, and best of luck.:happy:0 -
To Annie--great post. Thanks for summing it up. Best.0
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It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.
Been there, done that re: the Ramen.
As much as I respect it, I hope I never have to eat it again. Total burn out. Even now, the thought just makes me unhappy.
I hope your health improves and your success continues.
Thank you. It is helping my PCOS tremendously.
And I don't mean to be so hot tempered but people like the OP give low carb a very bad name and it gets me all fired up
Ramen is cheap sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.. But I agree... I'll be just fine if I never have to eat it again. 0 -
Hello,
I am doing about 50 grams of carbs a day and have an abundance of energy...about 3 weeks into it...are you eating enough fat and protein to keep you going and I find that doubling up on my water has helped out so much!
Take care and good luck!
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Feeling good today. So what I ate and eating today
Breakfast
1 Pepperjack cheese stick
1 Mini ice cream sandwich Has 16 grams of carbs
Lunch
2 apple and gouda chicken sausages 4 carbs
Dinner
Undecided either going to be a 10oz skirt steak or 10oz new york strip steak
To up my calories going to eat some pork rinds and a few table spoons of olive oil.0 -
Hello,
I am doing about 50 grams of carbs a day and have an abundance of energy...about 3 weeks into it...are you eating enough fat and protein to keep you going and I find that doubling up on my water has helped out so much!
Take care and good luck!
Rose
Im not really watching protein and fat. figure since most my meals have some type of meat I dont worry about it.0 -
I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting. Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat more carbs (low fat diets have higher carbs), your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I have stayed on the induction phase longer, the most strict phase, limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.If "calorie counting didn't work," it's because you were doing it wrong. Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight, regardless of diet.
I can't play the entire song "Eruption" by Van Halen, so obviously the problem is that guitars don't work...
bingo.
Regardless of how the deficit occurs (whether it's from low carb, low fat, portion control, etc.), it's all about the calories.0 -
I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting. Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat carbs at night, your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I am on the induction phase, the most strict phase limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.If "calorie counting didn't work," it's because you were doing it wrong. Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight, regardless of diet.
I can't play the entire song "Eruption" by Van Halen, so obviously the problem is that guitars don't work...
bingo.
Regardless of how the deficit occurs (whether it's from low carb, low fat, portion control, etc.), it's all about the calories.
then how do people eat carbs at night and lose weight? I eat carbs every night and in my most recent cut I am losing about .5 pound per week ...
Do you happen to have some kind of study on eating carbs at night? I would be curious to read it.0 -
I knew it would be taken in the wrong context. My example was If I low carb part of the day and low cal the other part (day or night) it doesnt work. Its either low carb all day or low cal all day.0
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And as for weight loss I am losing 3-5 lbs a week on low carb. Low cal is a slower weight loss0
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I knew it would be taken in the wrong context. My example was If I low carb part of the day and low cal the other part (day or night) it doesnt work. Its either low carb all day or low cal all day.
how did I take you out of context? You said that if you eat carbs at night that it then takes three days to burn off the excess? All I asked for was the scientific evidence that you said existed to back this claim up....0 -
Try increasing your calories a bit. You will be amazed at what your body does next. I hope you are getting enough fatty protein and quality fruits and veggies as your energy levels will drop. There are plenty of low carb options to choose from.0
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I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting. Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat more carbs (low fat diets have higher carbs), your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I have stayed on the induction phase longer, the most strict phase, limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.If "calorie counting didn't work," it's because you were doing it wrong. Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight, regardless of diet.
I can't play the entire song "Eruption" by Van Halen, so obviously the problem is that guitars don't work...
bingo.
Regardless of how the deficit occurs (whether it's from low carb, low fat, portion control, etc.), it's all about the calories.
I understand how it's executed.
But the "science" behind it is that it creates a calorie deficit by eliminating simple carbohydrates.
People can easily gain weight by eating low carb if they eat in caloric surplus.
If your style of eating is beneficial for you, cool beans. However, weight loss happens in caloric deficit. Period.0 -
And as for weight loss I am losing 3-5 lbs a week on low carb. Low cal is a slower weight loss
Then your caloric deficit is pretty high.
Once you get closer to "ideal" composition, your rate of weight loss will decrease.0 -
It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.
I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!
If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.
I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....
Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....
I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.
Been there, done that re: the Ramen.
As much as I respect it, I hope I never have to eat it again. Total burn out. Even now, the thought just makes me unhappy.
I hope your health improves and your success continues.
Thank you. It is helping my PCOS tremendously.
And I don't mean to be so hot tempered but people like the OP give low carb a very bad name and it gets me all fired up
Ramen is cheap sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.. But I agree... I'll be just fine if I never have to eat it again.
I understand your anger at low carb being used as a "crash diet." I wouldn't like that either.0 -
I am T2 diabetic and managed to do about 25 grams a day for months. You need to eat lots of salt, fat and protein to compensate for the low carb. I still never felt good but since the drs. didn't think I needed more drugs it was the only way I could keep my BG remotely ok. More drugs and I now eat between 75 and 150 grams a day and feel much better. BTW, I've lost more weight being moderate carb than I did being low carb.
It has been my experience as well. Because going moderate carbs (around 100-150 grams of carb per day and net of 1,200--1,500 cals per day) allows you to do lots of exercise (and build some muscle too), I have found it to be a much easier plan to follow permanently. I do not eat added sugar. I eat no wheat and just a small amount of oats and some rye. The rest of my carbs come from vegetables (especially root vegetables for the potassium) a few nuts and at least one serving of fruit per day. When I was with my friends yesterday, I allowed them to give me a TINY piece of carrot cake--I could barely get through it. Although good, it was WAAAYYY too sweet for my reformed taste buds.lol (whoops, I forgot to log it). I have easily twice the energy that I had on my former high carb diet. If you eliminate sugary foods and limit grain--getting most of your carbs from vegetables and fruits, you will get the proper mineral balance to keep your body humming. Taking mineral supplements can be dangerous in addition to damaging your long-term health. Nature has provided the proper mix of minerals in a diet that includes lean protein, vegetables, nuts and fruits. Eating lots of meat, sugar and too much grain is problematic because it throws our acid/alkalai balance off and that can lead to disease in the long haul, a lack of energy in the short haul.
ETA: I eat a bit of cheese and eggs almost every day too. We really were meant to be omnivores, I think. A diet that includes lots of variety of natural whole foods is a VERY satisfying way to eat. Most people who try it say that they would NEVER go back to their former crappy, high sugar, high carb diets.0 -
Thankyou Dude. Now THIS is an entirely different thing than what the OP is doing. I respect people that eat well. Even if I might not do low carb myself, since I'm doing so well eating a little of everything--typical Mediterranean diet. I would thik low carbers would have to eat various vegetables to be successful and healthy in the long run. I really want everyone on here to succeed. I find the discussions interesting--am learning so much. Sorry to bug you with questions, but you have to admit alot of people don't understand what you're doing. I need to see examples, and imagine there are lots of others on MFP like me. Appreciate your time. Best.
I eat way different than the o/p as well. It's no wonder he doesn't feel well with the lack of good food in his meal choices.
For me, a typical day is:
Breakfast- 2 cups of coffee, with heavy cream and no sugar
2-3 eggs
2 sausage patties, either turkey or turkey/pork combo
Lunch
Salad- 3oz of greens, 2oz cukes, 2oz tomatoes, and then some other veggies, like carrot, bok choy, mushrooms, scallions, whatever we have around. 4oz of chicken breast, olive oil, balsamic vinegar. Sometimes an ounce of cheese on top. Sometimes I'll use a can of tuna instead of chicken, or I'll make tuna salad and have it on a low carb tortilla.
Snack- nuts or pork rinds or some cheese
Dinner-
a large portion of meat, like steak, pork chops, baked chicken or turkey, salmon. 10-16oz
a large portion of a veggie like cauliflower, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, asparagus, really any fresh veggies cooked in olive or coconut oil. 12oz at least. Mixed veggie stir fry a lot too. Lots of good spices, Indian, Thai, etc to keep things interesting.
I try to stay around 50g net carbs a day. I go over on the weekends because I like craft beer and will have some of them.
I try to get at least 64oz of water, preferably more.0 -
And as for weight loss I am losing 3-5 lbs a week on low carb. Low cal is a slower weight loss
:ohwell: Fast weight loss is about the worst reason I can think of for going low carb.
How long have you been losing at this rate?0
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