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7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast
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Who would have thought this post would have recieved such debated conversations?0
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Who would have thought this post would have recieved such debated conversations?
Anyone who has been on MFP more than a week.0 -
I think it's interesting that the "anti-keto" posters repeatedly say that NOBODY stays on a keto diet long-term, yet dozens and dozens of posters show up and say that they've been doing it long term.
And so the anti-keto crowd refuses to believe them or acknowledge their existence.
Myself, I adopted a ketogenic diet in December of 2010. 39 months and counting. I lost 140 lbs on it and maintain excellent (fully normal non-diabetic) glycemic control.
I'm sure I don't really exist though.
that's not long enough. If you did it 5 years, that's not long enough either. Apparently, it has to be 10+ years, or longer than the anti keto person who is projecting their negativity's term of success, which ever is longer. Then you might get some acceptance.
I followed the advice of Ron Raab - who's the current Vice-President of the International Diabetes Federation and the President of the charity Insulin-for-Life. He has been low-carb since 1998. 16 years.
http://www.diabetes-low-carb.org/articles/articles-english/1/1-summary-why.html
I'm sure he doesn't really exist though.
Just because a few people don't personally know anyone that has been low-carb long-term doesn't mean there's none of us out there. There's 10's of thousands of us.0 -
I think it's interesting that the "anti-keto" posters repeatedly say that NOBODY stays on a keto diet long-term, yet dozens and dozens of posters show up and say that they've been doing it long term.
And so the anti-keto crowd refuses to believe them or acknowledge their existence.
Myself, I adopted a ketogenic diet in December of 2010. 39 months and counting. I lost 140 lbs on it and maintain excellent (fully normal non-diabetic) glycemic control.
I'm sure I don't really exist though.
that's not long enough. If you did it 5 years, that's not long enough either. Apparently, it has to be 10+ years, or longer than the anti keto person who is projecting their negativity's term of success, which ever is longer. Then you might get some acceptance.
http://www.diabetes-low-carb.org/articles/articles-english/1/1-summary-why.html
I'm sure he doesn't really exist though.
Just because a few people don't personally know anyone that has been low-carb long-term doesn't mean there's none of us out there. There's 10's of thousands of us.
Pretty sure no one said that there are zero people who have been doing low-carb long term.0 -
Pretty sure no one said that there are zero people who have been doing low-carb long term.
I personally know HUNDRED'S of diabetics that follow a VLCKD. Some as long as 16 years, some as short as a few months. The average about a year now.
If someone tries to dissuade a person with insulin-resistance (for whatever reason) from eating a very-low-carb ketogenic diet, and tell them that "you'll just fail" or "you can't eat that way for life" - you do them a disservice if they choose to listen to you and NOT at least TRY the diet that's proven healthiest for them.0 -
Pretty sure no one said that there are zero people who have been doing low-carb long term.
I personally know HUNDRED'S of diabetics that follow a VLCKD. Some as long as 16 years, some as short as a few months. The average about a year now.
If someone tries to dissuade a person with insulin-resistance (for whatever reason) from eating a very-low-carb ketogenic diet, and tell them that "you'll just fail" or "you can't eat that way for life" - you do them a disservice if they choose to listen to you and NOT at least TRY the diet that's proven healthiest for them.
Yes, I do try to dissuade people from choosing it.
Your quotes are not actual quotes, by the way.
Also not sure anyone in this thread was trying to dissuade a person with insulin resistance from eating a medically-appropriate diet.0 -
Yes, I do try to dissuade people from choosing it.
Your quotes are not actual quotes, by the way.Also not sure anyone in this thread was trying to dissuade a person with insulin resistance from eating a medically-appropriate diet.
If anyone (whether you or someone else) attempts to dissuade a person without having that knowledge, then the DO try to dissuade someone from eating a medically-appropriate diet.
It happens.
Often.
That's the only point I wanted to get across.0 -
Yes, I do try to dissuade people from choosing it.
Your quotes are not actual quotes, by the way.Also not sure anyone in this thread was trying to dissuade a person with insulin resistance from eating a medically-appropriate diet.
If anyone (whether you or someone else) attempts to dissuade a person without having that knowledge, then the DO try to dissuade someone from eating a medically-appropriate diet.
It happens.
Often.
That's the only point I wanted to get across.
I feel pretty comfortable assuming the person asking for advice would mention any serious diet-related medical condition when asking for advice.0 -
I feel pretty comfortable assuming the person asking for advice would mention any serious diet-related medical condition when asking for advice.
Which is why I'm not comfortable with it.
Our experience and outlook is different in that regard. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - it's just different.
With that, adieu good sir. I think this thread needs to die now0
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