7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast

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  • mdallas6
    mdallas6 Posts: 95 Member
    I knew it would be taken in the wrong context. My example was If I low carb part of the day and low cal the other part (day or night) it doesnt work. Its either low carb all day or low cal all day.

    how did I take you out of context? You said that if you eat carbs at night that it then takes three days to burn off the excess? All I asked for was the scientific evidence that you said existed to back this claim up....
    I said "for example if I ate low carbs in the morning then low cal at night I won't lose weight"........not meaning if I eat carbs at night only...
  • mdallas6
    mdallas6 Posts: 95 Member
    And as for weight loss I am losing 3-5 lbs a week on low carb. Low cal is a slower weight loss

    Then your caloric deficit is pretty high.
    Once you get closer to "ideal" composition, your rate of weight loss will decrease.
    I eat 1200 calories a day and am at 20-30 cabs a day
  • mdallas6
    mdallas6 Posts: 95 Member
    And as for weight loss I am losing 3-5 lbs a week on low carb. Low cal is a slower weight loss

    :ohwell: Fast weight loss is about the worst reason I can think of for going low carb.

    How long have you been losing at this rate?
    when you have a lot of weight to lose you are able to stay in the induction phase for a longer time. Some of us have more than 20 lbs to lose. And losing weight quickly and healthy isn't a bad reason to do low carb. This thread is really full of low carb haters!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I knew it would be taken in the wrong context. My example was If I low carb part of the day and low cal the other part (day or night) it doesnt work. Its either low carb all day or low cal all day.

    how did I take you out of context? You said that if you eat carbs at night that it then takes three days to burn off the excess? All I asked for was the scientific evidence that you said existed to back this claim up....
    I said "for example if I ate low carbs in the morning then low cal at night I won't lose weight"........not meaning if I eat carbs at night only...

    this is from your post:

    "The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat carbs at night, your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. "

    I simply asked for the scientific evidence that you say backs this claim up. I have not taken anything you said out of context.
  • mdallas6
    mdallas6 Posts: 95 Member
    If "calorie counting didn't work," it's because you were doing it wrong. Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight, regardless of diet.

    I can't play the entire song "Eruption" by Van Halen, so obviously the problem is that guitars don't work...

    bingo.
    Regardless of how the deficit occurs (whether it's from low carb, low fat, portion control, etc.), it's all about the calories.
    I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting. Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat more carbs (low fat diets have higher carbs), your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I have stayed on the induction phase longer, the most strict phase, limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.
    I said it's about carb counting.....IF I ate low carb in the morning then switched to low cal at night the diet doesn't work.......it's about CARBS (the amount if carbs WHENEVER you eat them), not calories. The scientific proof is in the Atkins diet book or you can google it. It's a process of ketosis when your body burns fat for energy and not sugar.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    And as for weight loss I am losing 3-5 lbs a week on low carb. Low cal is a slower weight loss

    Then your caloric deficit is pretty high.
    Once you get closer to "ideal" composition, your rate of weight loss will decrease.
    I eat 1200 calories a day and am at 20-30 cabs a day

    Yeah, it's going to decrease. But it's okay. It happens that way with everyone.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    If "calorie counting didn't work," it's because you were doing it wrong. Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight, regardless of diet.

    I can't play the entire song "Eruption" by Van Halen, so obviously the problem is that guitars don't work...

    bingo.
    Regardless of how the deficit occurs (whether it's from low carb, low fat, portion control, etc.), it's all about the calories.
    I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting. Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat more carbs (low fat diets have higher carbs), your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I have stayed on the induction phase longer, the most strict phase, limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.
    I said it's about carb counting.....IF I ate low carb in the morning then switched to low cal at night the diet doesn't work.......it's about CARBS (the amount if carbs WHENEVER you eat them), not calories. The scientific proof is in the Atkins diet book or you can google it. It's a process of ketosis when your body burns fat for energy and not sugar.

    Ok - so you have no scientific evidence to back up your claim. Thanks.

    what difference does it make when you eat? Meal timing and metabolism have zero relationship...

    by scientific evidence I assumed you meant some kind of peer reviewed article/journal etc…not a books that advocates for low carb…
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    If "calorie counting didn't work," it's because you were doing it wrong. Calorie deficit is the only way to lose weight, regardless of diet.

    I can't play the entire song "Eruption" by Van Halen, so obviously the problem is that guitars don't work...

    bingo.
    Regardless of how the deficit occurs (whether it's from low carb, low fat, portion control, etc.), it's all about the calories.
    I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting. Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat. So if you eat more carbs (low fat diets have higher carbs), your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I have stayed on the induction phase longer, the most strict phase, limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.
    I said it's about carb counting.....IF I ate low carb in the morning then switched to low cal at night the diet doesn't work.......it's about CARBS (the amount if carbs WHENEVER you eat them), not calories. The scientific proof is in the Atkins diet book or you can google it. It's a process of ketosis when your body burns fat for energy and not sugar.

    Ok - so you have no scientific evidence to back up your claim. Thanks.

    what difference does it make when you eat? Meal timing and metabolism have zero relationship...

    by scientific evidence I assumed you meant some kind of peer reviewed article/journal etc…not a books that advocates for low carb…

    She's eating 1200 calories so she's definitely gonna lose weight.
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    it doesn't take three weeks to "enter ketosis"

    Read what I wrote. I said it can take up to 3 weeks.
    It takes me a few days to enter ketosis on low carb so when I binge, I can lose up to a week of benefits.

    Her method won't keep her in ketosis which is why I said there was no use for her to continue with the low carb.

    So unless you've been on a low carb diet take your assumptions elsewhere.
    Most people enter ketosis in a few days *IF* they truly eat under 30g of carbohydrate per day AND they limit protein to moderate amounts. As has been mentioned you can enter ketosis quicker if you do some long cardio (to empty liver glycogen) and some all-over body weight-training (to empty muscle glycogen).

    I think the confusion here stems from ketosis vs. keto-adaptation. You can enter ketosis quickly but the process of keto-adaptation takes longer. Keto-adaptation is the process by which the body switches to prefer fat to glucose for it's fuel source. That *CAN* take 3+ weeks. In some people it can take 8 weeks. Sure, getting into NK (nutritional ketosis) is quick, but getting keto-adapted isn't necessarily as fast. (FYI research shows that those who regularly do CKD's - cyclic ketogenic diets - generally become keto-adapted much-faster than those trying a keto diet for their first time.)

    Also of note - ketogenic diets aren't just about low-carb - it's also about high-fat / moderate-protein. If you eat too much protein (above/beyond your needs) the process of gluconeogenesis will convert that protein to glucose, causing the keto-adaptation process to be delayed or even stalled. This is why many people fail at the keto diet - they go low carb, but get too much protein, not enough fat. Until people are keto-adapted, they can and will feel insufficient energy - physically and mentally.

    As for the lack of veggies, etc. - if you truly hate them at least have a good multivitamin. If you like lettuce, maybe have a daily salad out of some dark greens - romaine, kale, baby spinach, etc. Enjoy some low-GI fruit such as berries or cherries to help get needed anti-oxidants, etc. You can enjoy these items within reason and still stay ketogenic.
  • ALNoog
    ALNoog Posts: 413 Member
    it doesn't take three weeks to "enter ketosis"

    Read what I wrote. I said it can take up to 3 weeks.
    It takes me a few days to enter ketosis on low carb so when I binge, I can lose up to a week of benefits.

    Her method won't keep her in ketosis which is why I said there was no use for her to continue with the low carb.

    So unless you've been on a low carb diet take your assumptions elsewhere.
    Most people enter ketosis in a few days *IF* they truly eat under 30g of carbohydrate per day AND they limit protein to moderate amounts. As has been mentioned you can enter ketosis quicker if you do some long cardio (to empty liver glycogen) and some all-over body weight-training (to empty muscle glycogen).

    I think the confusion here stems from ketosis vs. keto-adaptation. You can enter ketosis quickly but the process of keto-adaptation takes longer. Keto-adaptation is the process by which the body switches to prefer fat to glucose for it's fuel source. That *CAN* take 3+ weeks. In some people it can take 8 weeks. Sure, getting into NK (nutritional ketosis) is quick, but getting keto-adapted isn't necessarily as fast. (FYI research shows that those who regularly do CKD's - cyclic ketogenic diets - generally become keto-adapted much-faster than those trying a keto diet for their first time.)

    Also of note - ketogenic diets aren't just about low-carb - it's also about high-fat / moderate-protein. If you eat too much protein (above/beyond your needs) the process of gluconeogenesis will convert that protein to glucose, causing the keto-adaptation process to be delayed or even stalled. This is why many people fail at the keto diet - they go low carb, but get too much protein, not enough fat. Until people are keto-adapted, they can and will feel insufficient energy - physically and mentally.

    As for the lack of veggies, etc. - if you truly hate them at least have a good multivitamin. If you like lettuce, maybe have a daily salad out of some dark greens - romaine, kale, baby spinach, etc. Enjoy some low-GI fruit such as berries or cherries to help get needed anti-oxidants, etc. You can enjoy these items within reason and still stay ketogenic.

    Lots of great notes there. I enjoy reading informative posts.
    I wouldn't worry too much about OP as far as this "diet" goes... I think he only has one day left on it and he's currently got ice cream sandwiches to keep him from going into ketosis ;)
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    I still would like to know if ^^^above is an example of a typical low carb diet. I really am interested in knowing what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks. I also think that it would be beneficial for the OP to know if ^^^above is not normal low carb.
    I eat a ketogenic diet (39 months now) and my food diary is public.

    FYI I was away with some major work/family issues for about 9 months and only came back for regular check-in a week ago ... so you won't see anything between May 14, 2013 and Mar 18, 2014... But feel free to browse. Dates prior-to or after those ...
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    I have to say that for low carbing, its not calorie counting. Its CARB counting.
    Actually, to be precise it's BOTH. There are many that suggest you don't have to carb count on low-carb ... just "eat until you're full" and "only eat when hungry" ... While that may work for many - it's because they get full faster and are less-hungry while low-carbing, THUS they eat fewer calories than required for maintenance.

    The problem comes with people who eat for emotional/psychological reasons. Whether it be comfort, reward, addiction, whatever. Those individuals generally MUST count calories, even while low-carb, to ensure they are at the deficit required for losing weight.

    Yes, there are a few anecdotal examples of people eating considerably more than their metabolic requirements and losing weight ... but those are extremely limited and generally not something we can duplicate in a lab. Sure, there's a slight thermic effect to food - but in the case of LCHF/keto diets it's typically only found if protein intake increases, and it's very few calories per day in laboratory environments.
    Because if I low carb in the morning and eat low cal at night, the diet doesnt work. The whole premise of low carbing is that (and its scientific evidence) your body burns carbs for energy and once the carbs/sugars are gone, your body burns fat.
    Not because of caloric issues, but because excess carbohydrate can 'kick you out' of ketosis - when you're no longer keto-adapted, your body's preferred (what it uses first) fuel source is glucose instead of fatty acids.

    So if you eat more carbs (low fat diets have higher carbs), your body takes about 3 days to burn off the sugars that you eat, so you wouldnt be burning fat, only sugars and wont lose weight. That is why there are strict phases of the diet (Atkins anyway) that limit you to a certain amount and slowly build in more depending on your own body and your desired outcome. I had 92lbs to lose back in November so I have stayed on the induction phase longer, the most strict phase, limiting myself to 20 a day. I have my good days and not so good days, but again I allow myself to eat more carbs if I need to as it is a lifestyle change and I need to be able to support this way of eating.
    FYI the Atkins stages have to do with getting into ketosis (Atkins calls this 'induction') and then becoming keto-adapted.

    As far as good days and not-so-good days ... IF you exercise enough to keep your glycogen stores mostly depleted, you will normally find that you have to eat a LOT of CHO to get knocked out of ketosis. This is why I exercise 6 days a week. Metabolically the body will route circulating serum glucose to depleted glycogen stores BEFORE it uses it for cellular respiration (unless there's a current need - ie: you're currently exercising) or moves it into fat cells.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Thankyou Dude. Now THIS is an entirely different thing than what the OP is doing. I respect people that eat well. Even if I might not do low carb myself, since I'm doing so well eating a little of everything--typical Mediterranean diet. I would thik low carbers would have to eat various vegetables to be successful and healthy in the long run. I really want everyone on here to succeed. I find the discussions interesting--am learning so much. Sorry to bug you with questions, but you have to admit alot of people don't understand what you're doing. I need to see examples, and imagine there are lots of others on MFP like me. Appreciate your time. Best.:smile:

    I eat way different than the o/p as well. It's no wonder he doesn't feel well with the lack of good food in his meal choices.

    For me, a typical day is:
    Breakfast- 2 cups of coffee, with heavy cream and no sugar
    2-3 eggs
    2 sausage patties, either turkey or turkey/pork combo

    Lunch
    Salad- 3oz of greens, 2oz cukes, 2oz tomatoes, and then some other veggies, like carrot, bok choy, mushrooms, scallions, whatever we have around. 4oz of chicken breast, olive oil, balsamic vinegar. Sometimes an ounce of cheese on top. Sometimes I'll use a can of tuna instead of chicken, or I'll make tuna salad and have it on a low carb tortilla.

    Snack- nuts or pork rinds or some cheese

    Dinner-
    a large portion of meat, like steak, pork chops, baked chicken or turkey, salmon. 10-16oz
    a large portion of a veggie like cauliflower, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, asparagus, really any fresh veggies cooked in olive or coconut oil. 12oz at least. Mixed veggie stir fry a lot too. Lots of good spices, Indian, Thai, etc to keep things interesting.

    I try to stay around 50g net carbs a day. I go over on the weekends because I like craft beer and will have some of them.
    I try to get at least 64oz of water, preferably more.

    Thankyou for your examples. This also is alot better than what the OP is doing. Best.:smile:
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets
  • danimalkeys
    danimalkeys Posts: 982 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Only one day left to go - get that fridge stocked up with Carbs (I hope you've got beers ready).

    My personal choice for a high carb meal would be large pizza (meat feast with BBQ sauce base). Garlic great and a whole tub of B&J Chunky Monkey.

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!

    The only reason Im even eating any veggies is so I can have a bowel movement every few days. I dont want to get constipated. If I could go without eating any veggies then I would.
  • ALNoog
    ALNoog Posts: 413 Member
    Holy crap!! Is there a way to unfollow a topic? This one shows first every time and Id liike to not have it in my topics anymore....
    I honestly CANT read it anymore... The sheer nonsense is making my eyes bleed!
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!

    The only reason Im even eating any veggies is so I can have a bowel movement every few days. I dont want to get constipated. If I could go without eating any veggies then I would.

    I hope you're taking a multivitamin.

    BTW, you're pretty much the protein equivalent of the typical American obesity diet.
    Congratulations.
    Enjoy that short-term, yo-yo diet rollercoaster you've put yourself on.
    I'm sure your *kitten* enjoys all those bigg-meat dumps you're forcing through it.
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Only one day left to go - get that fridge stocked up with Carbs (I hope you've got beers ready).

    My personal choice for a high carb meal would be large pizza (meat feast with BBQ sauce base). Garlic great and a whole tub of B&J Chunky Monkey.

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Thinking about getting a mcflurry from mcdonalds and I have 3 fried chicken hungry man dinners that need to be eaten. along with some lasagna and a few pizzas.
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!

    The only reason Im even eating any veggies is so I can have a bowel movement every few days. I dont want to get constipated. If I could go without eating any veggies then I would.

    I hope you're taking a multivitamin.

    BTW, you're pretty much the protein equivalent of the typical American obesity diet.
    Congratulations.
    Enjoy that short-term, yo-yo diet rollercoaster you've put yourself on.
    I'm sure your *kitten* enjoys all those bigg-meat dumps you're forcing through it.

    The multi vitamin was a good suggestion that I am willing to fit in when dieting.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!

    The only reason Im even eating any veggies is so I can have a bowel movement every few days. I dont want to get constipated. If I could go without eating any veggies then I would.

    I hope you're taking a multivitamin.

    BTW, you're pretty much the protein equivalent of the typical American obesity diet.
    Congratulations.
    Enjoy that short-term, yo-yo diet rollercoaster you've put yourself on.
    I'm sure your *kitten* enjoys all those bigg-meat dumps you're forcing through it.

    LOL I was just getting ready to eat my cauliflower-brussel sprout-carrot medley when I read this...

    Right to the point you were...he won't listen though...it is like we are all talking to a wall.
  • Annie_01
    Annie_01 Posts: 3,096 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!

    The only reason Im even eating any veggies is so I can have a bowel movement every few days. I dont want to get constipated. If I could go without eating any veggies then I would.

    You are a 36 year old man that has 90lbs to lose...your body should be eliminating waste faster than every few days.

    Sorry but a half serving of a green leafy vegetable will not do the trick.
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Pants I use are probably still a little too tight for me so Im definitely going to need to go another 30 days in a few weeks. Feel good today. Getting little bored with the foods im eating so a break will be good. Been going to restaurants more. Today Im eating

    Breakfast
    1 Mozzarella cheese stick
    4 sausage patties

    Lunch
    Went to Pollo tropical
    3 grilled chicken wings
    1 chicken thigh
    Roast pork
    About a cup of romaine with 3 tblspoons ceasar salad dressing

    Dinner

    2 salmon filets

    You gotta get some vegetables in your diet. 1 cup of romaine is BS. You said you like green beans and bell peppers, eat them!

    The only reason Im even eating any veggies is so I can have a bowel movement every few days. I dont want to get constipated. If I could go without eating any veggies then I would.

    You are a 36 year old man that has 90lbs to lose...your body should be eliminating waste faster than every few days.

    Sorry but a half serving of a green leafy vegetable will not do the trick.

    180 is more like my ideal weight.
  • SallyPDXer
    SallyPDXer Posts: 18 Member
    I recently did low carb for 2 weeks to kick start my weight loss. I felt great and it was pretty easy mostly because I knew it was only for 2 weeks. I know I can't sustain a LCHF lifestyle, although I know someone personally who swears by it, is very thin, and runs several miles every day. Now I am on MFP, logging my food, counting calories, and working out because although the scale might not move as fast, this is a more sustainable lifestyle for me.
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    I recently did low carb for 2 weeks to kick start my weight loss. I felt great and it was pretty easy mostly because I knew it was only for 2 weeks. I know I can't sustain a LCHF lifestyle, although I know someone personally who swears by it, is very thin, and runs several miles every day. Now I am on MFP, logging my food, counting calories, and working out because although the scale might not move as fast, this is a more sustainable lifestyle for me.
    Even if you can't sustain LCHF it's amazing what health increases come if you cut (or even eliminate) refined/processed carbohydrate from your diet. If you tolerate carbs and use things like sprouted-grain bread (made with no flour), steel-cut oats instead of rolled, etc., it makes great improvements in health.

    I truly believe the ONLY people that *should* go on an LCHF diet long-term fall into two classifications:

    #1
    People who have insulin-resistance - this can be individuals with uncontrolled diabetes (Type II most commonly, but Type I's are also developing it more-and-more..), hashimoto's thyroiditis, PCOS, metabolic syndrome, etc. As they lose weight and undertake activities that improve insulin-sensitivity, they should slowly re-introduce carbohydrate back into their diet to find out what levels they tolerate.

    #2
    Morbidly obese people who may or may not be able to exercise. Most often these individuals also present with metabolic syndrome, but sometimes they don't. Regardless of whether they're insulin-resistant or not, however, research is clear that the morbidly obese - especially those unable to exercise - lose more weight while on an LCHF diet. Again, as they lose weight and undertake activities that improve insulin-sensitivity or other markers of health, they should slowly re-introduce carbohydrate back into the diets to see what they tolerate, and find a macronutrient profile that they find comfortable to manage and keeps them healthy for life.

    As far as short-term ketogenic diets - there's considerable benefits from using a CKD - cyclic ketogenic diet, where you go on and off the diet at pre-determined intervals. There's considerable research available on the topic if you care to google it.
  • Miamiuu
    Miamiuu Posts: 262 Member
    Feeling good still. thank you everyone for helping keeping me motivated so I could complete the 30 days. Now Im just going to count calories for a few weeks and then I'll do another 30 day session of low carbing. I lost weight eating the foods I ate. If I knew how to cook better Id also have better meals. I do need to watch my sodium so once I lose some more weight Im going to have to attempt to go low on salt.

    Breakfast

    A frozen cheese omelette- Actually tastes pretty good.

    Snacks
    2 sticks of Mozarella cheese
    1 Stick of Pepperjack cheese
    Pork rhinds

    Lunch
    A 3 oz bag of beef jerky.

    Dinner
    To be decided probably go to giraffas again and have a 10 oz steak, or have a skirt steak.


    Thats a wrap folks.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    Incredible!
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    It's so very sad that a site that is supposed to offer motivation and help is full of so many people that are "my way or the highway".... I have friends doing all kinds of diets.... Low carb, low cal, beach body, HCG, advocare, itworks.... And I never ever ever tell them they are wrong in their choices.

    I have more people blocked on here than I do on my friends list!

    If you haven't blocked me yet, I would like to re-iterate what I said before about stepping back and reading posts in monotone.
    You might find that you will be able to un-block some people and their posts because they aren't necessarily cruel, mean, condescending or judgemental.
    Emotions can run high on the forums. Sometimes it takes some effort to see things how people REALLY mean them, instead of how we THINK they mean them.

    I agree that passions can get heated on the threads.... Tones can get misjudged and such.
    I said on page two that I had (past tense) great success and quit due to financial complications ....

    Then later (on around page 5 or so) when I said I had (past tense) great success I was still referring to what I said on page two... So I can see how you might take it where I might have been saying I am successful if you came in on page 5 and didn't see what I posted on page two.....

    I am just restarting as of about 3 weeks ago and I am no expert at all... I'm far from maintenance. If I hadn't had to live off of Ramen and my friend making my pity dinner 6 nights a week I would never have stopped.

    Been there, done that re: the Ramen.
    As much as I respect it, I hope I never have to eat it again. Total burn out. Even now, the thought just makes me unhappy.

    I hope your health improves and your success continues.

    Thank you. It is helping my PCOS tremendously.
    And I don't mean to be so hot tempered but people like the OP give low carb a very bad name and it gets me all fired up ;)

    Ramen is cheap :) sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.. But I agree... I'll be just fine if I never have to eat it again.

    Just wanted to say I'm glad you have found a way of eating that helps you medically! And I also wanted to say that FlaxMilk is a really swell person, and you might want to rethink your block. :flowerforyou:
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Feeling good still. thank you everyone for helping keeping me motivated so I could complete the 30 days. Now Im just going to count calories for a few weeks and then I'll do another 30 day session of low carbing. I lost weight eating the foods I ate. If I knew how to cook better Id also have better meals. I do need to watch my sodium so once I lose some more weight Im going to have to attempt to go low on salt.

    Breakfast

    A frozen cheese omelette- Actually tastes pretty good.

    Snacks
    2 sticks of Mozarella cheese
    1 Stick of Pepperjack cheese
    Pork rhinds

    Lunch
    A 3 oz bag of beef jerky.

    Dinner
    To be decided probably go to giraffas again and have a 10 oz steak, or have a skirt steak.


    Thats a wrap folks.

    Humans are omnivores, not carnivores. We need fruits and vegetables. Your diet is seriously lacking in fiber and you can't be getting all the micronutrients you need.