7 Days Left on Low carb and fading fast
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Eats an incredibly low amount of carbs, the body's preferred energy source, then complains about not having energy. Is this real life? srs0
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Just don't understand people who think doing some magical diet will make them lose weight quickly. Unless of course for medical issues, just eat at a reasonable deficit and exercise, it's really that easy!!
I wouldn't say it's easy. Simple, yes. Easy? Not always.
Simple and Easy are synonyms for each other, meaning practically the same thing.
Uh, no, they are not. Hitting a golf ball is simple. You swing the club and hit the ball. But it's really f'in hard to do well. Just like throwing a football. Heck, chess takes 10 minutes to learn but I've never heard anyone say that chess is easy.
Look it up in a dictionary/thesaurus....they are synonyms for each other, and mean practically the same thing.
Now don't get me wrong, changing your eating habits is not easy or really simple for that matter, but the idea behind it is both simple and easy
The concept of eating less and moving more is simple.
The application of eating less and moving more is not always easy
If it was, there would be no need for this website, special fad diets, or any other bs people use to try to lose weight. But if you want to continue splitting hairs, be my guest.
I am pretty sure we are saying the same thing here!
I was just saying that the definitions of both words in a dictionary mean almost the same thing.
ETA : the thesaurus has them both a synonyms for each other also
Simple = Not complex
Easy = Not difficult.
They have quite different meanings from each other in the phrase "Losing weight is simple, but not easy."0 -
Just don't understand people who think doing some magical diet will make them lose weight quickly. Unless of course for medical issues, just eat at a reasonable deficit and exercise, it's really that easy!!
I wouldn't say it's easy. Simple, yes. Easy? Not always.
Simple and Easy are synonyms for each other, meaning practically the same thing.
Uh, no, they are not. Hitting a golf ball is simple. You swing the club and hit the ball. But it's really f'in hard to do well. Just like throwing a football. Heck, chess takes 10 minutes to learn but I've never heard anyone say that chess is easy.
Look it up in a dictionary/thesaurus....they are synonyms for each other, and mean practically the same thing.
Now don't get me wrong, changing your eating habits is not easy or really simple for that matter, but the idea behind it is both simple and easy
The concept of eating less and moving more is simple.
The application of eating less and moving more is not always easy
If it was, there would be no need for this website, special fad diets, or any other bs people use to try to lose weight. But if you want to continue splitting hairs, be my guest.
I am pretty sure we are saying the same thing here!
I was just saying that the definitions of both words in a dictionary mean almost the same thing.
ETA : the thesaurus has them both a synonyms for each other also
the thesaurus doesn't only give words that are 100% synonymous, each of the words in each thesaurus entry have some degree of similarity in meaning but they're not synonymous in every context. It's always a good idea to look words you find in a thesaurus up in a dictionary before using them, as not all the words will be a suitable replacement for the word you want to replace in the context you want to use it.
simple and easy don't mean exactly the same. Simple is the opposite of complex... complex means it has many parts or many steps. A torch is a simple machine because it just has a lightbulb, a switch, wires and a battery. A car engine is a complex machine, because it has many different parts to it. You can't say "a torch is an easy machine" or "a car is a difficult machine" - in this context easy is not synonymous with simple (or complex with difficult). In the context of a maths class, easy and simple may be synonymous, e.g. 1+1= is a maths problem that's both simple and easy. So in this context they are synonymous.
weight loss is simple, but it's not always easy. simple because all you need is a calorie deficit... but actually finding the right way for you as an individual to eat at a deficit and maintain that way of eating long term so you can get to and maintain a healthy weight.... not easy.0 -
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I didn't read the pages and pages of responses, but I think I may have an answer for you.
I'm doing low-carb as well, but not as a temporary / diet solution... I intend to stay low(er) carb permanently as I feel so much better when I stay away from breads and snacks.... right now, I'm super low carb, slowly adding some back...
I started feeling the same way a few days ago, and turns out I was suffering from low iron...
I was getting plenty of protein, but wasn't eating enough iron rich foods (I would say meat, but live in fear of getting torn apart by the folks who know more than I do) and I was becoming anemic.
I went to the store, bought some spinach, some eggs, and some steaks.... feeling better already!
Good luck!0 -
I didn't read the pages and pages of responses, but I think I may have an answer for you.
I'm doing low-carb as well, but not as a temporary / diet solution... I intend to stay low(er) carb permanently as I feel so much better when I stay away from breads and snacks.... right now, I'm super low carb, slowly adding some back...
I started feeling the same way a few days ago, and turns out I was suffering from low iron...
I was getting plenty of protein, but wasn't eating enough iron rich foods (I would say meat, but live in fear of getting torn apart by the folks who know more than I do) and I was becoming anemic.
I went to the store, bought some spinach, some eggs, and some steaks.... feeling better already!
Good luck!
I do low carb too and agree with what you said 100%
But missed the party there the carbs he does get are from soda and drinks mostly...0 -
OP (if you're still listening) "playing around" with LCHF is not to your best advantage. If you want to take charge of your health and lose weight, give it an honest go, there are a couple of things that will help:
1) Read and understand your plan. There are a number of LC plans out there. "New Atkins for a New You" is a good one.
2) Follow the instructions. With the plan noted above, it's 20 net carbs a day for Induction, not 30. Be strict about the rules of the diet.
3) There is an adaptation period. Some people feel weak in the early stages of the diet because the diet acts as a powerful diuretic - losing a lot of water fast can cause an electrolyte imbalance. To alleviate these symptoms, STAY THE COURSE AND INCREASE YOUR SODIUM. Drink some broth or bouillon, or add more sodium at the table (table salt). Be sure to drink plenty of water. Once you enter ketosis, you will feel better. Keto adaptation will take a bit longer, but it feels fantastic when you get there.
4) Eat adequate protein. Eat as much fat as you need to feel satisfied. Fat is your friend.
Going on and off the diet will just make you miserable.
Ignore the naysayers. This diet works for a LOT of people. It is scientifically validated. There's lots of data out there.
But you need to give it an honest go for it to work.0 -
Too much potassium from supplements is virtually impossible. All the pills have about 100 mg per tablet. You're technically right, but I don't think that's a concern.
Many potassium supplements have significantly more than 100 mg. 500-600 mg is not terribly uncommon. I know the risk is not huge, but it makes sense to know if it's even needed before OP starts messing around with it. There's potassium in meat, which I'm guessing OP is eating since she eats low carb0 -
Just don't understand people who think doing some magical diet will make them lose weight quickly. Unless of course for medical issues, just eat at a reasonable deficit and exercise, it's really that easy!!
I wouldn't say it's easy. Simple, yes. Easy? Not always.
Simple and Easy are synonyms for each other, meaning practically the same thing.
Uh, no, they are not. Hitting a golf ball is simple. You swing the club and hit the ball. But it's really f'in hard to do well. Just like throwing a football. Heck, chess takes 10 minutes to learn but I've never heard anyone say that chess is easy.
Look it up in a dictionary/thesaurus....they are synonyms for each other, and mean practically the same thing.
Now don't get me wrong, changing your eating habits is not easy or really simple for that matter, but the idea behind it is both simple and easy
The concept of eating less and moving more is simple.
The application of eating less and moving more is not always easy
If it was, there would be no need for this website, special fad diets, or any other bs people use to try to lose weight. But if you want to continue splitting hairs, be my guest.
I am pretty sure we are saying the same thing here!
I was just saying that the definitions of both words in a dictionary mean almost the same thing.
ETA : the thesaurus has them both a synonyms for each other also
Simple = Not complex
Easy = Not difficult.
They have quite different meanings from each other in the phrase "Losing weight is simple, but not easy."
Yeah, I'm easy but not simple! :laugh:0 -
Glad to see I'm not the only one getting tired all of the sudden! I've been low carbing since November (20-30 a day ) and have become suddenly super tired lately. Guess I need more iron! Glad I googled it!I didn't read the pages and pages of responses, but I think I may have an answer for you.
I'm doing low-carb as well, but not as a temporary / diet solution... I intend to stay low(er) carb permanently as I feel so much better when I stay away from breads and snacks.... right now, I'm super low carb, slowly adding some back...
I started feeling the same way a few days ago, and turns out I was suffering from low iron...
I was getting plenty of protein, but wasn't eating enough iron rich foods (I would say meat, but live in fear of getting torn apart by the folks who know more than I do) and I was becoming anemic.
I went to the store, bought some spinach, some eggs, and some steaks.... feeling better already!
Good luck!0 -
Wishing there was a "like" button for this!!!OP (if you're still listening) "playing around" with LCHF is not to your best advantage. If you want to take charge of your health and lose weight, give it an honest go, there are a couple of things that will help:
1) Read and understand your plan. There are a number of LC plans out there. "New Atkins for a New You" is a good one.
2) Follow the instructions. With the plan noted above, it's 20 net carbs a day for Induction, not 30. Be strict about the rules of the diet.
3) There is an adaptation period. Some people feel weak in the early stages of the diet because the diet acts as a powerful diuretic - losing a lot of water fast can cause an electrolyte imbalance. To alleviate these symptoms, STAY THE COURSE AND INCREASE YOUR SODIUM. Drink some broth or bouillon, or add more sodium at the table (table salt). Be sure to drink plenty of water. Once you enter ketosis, you will feel better. Keto adaptation will take a bit longer, but it feels fantastic when you get there.
4) Eat adequate protein. Eat as much fat as you need to feel satisfied. Fat is your friend.
Going on and off the diet will just make you miserable.
Ignore the naysayers. This diet works for a LOT of people. It is scientifically validated. There's lots of data out there.
But you need to give it an honest go for it to work.0 -
You should start mentally preparing yourself for weight gain starting in 7 days.
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+1 and also quoting because I like your credentials :ohwell:0 -
Glad to see I'm not the only one getting tired all of the sudden! I've been low carbing since November (20-30 a day ) and have become suddenly super tired lately. Guess I need more iron! Glad I googled it!I didn't read the pages and pages of responses, but I think I may have an answer for you.
I'm doing low-carb as well, but not as a temporary / diet solution... I intend to stay low(er) carb permanently as I feel so much better when I stay away from breads and snacks.... right now, I'm super low carb, slowly adding some back...
I started feeling the same way a few days ago, and turns out I was suffering from low iron...
I was getting plenty of protein, but wasn't eating enough iron rich foods (I would say meat, but live in fear of getting torn apart by the folks who know more than I do) and I was becoming anemic.
I went to the store, bought some spinach, some eggs, and some steaks.... feeling better already!
Good luck!
Yes! That will help a lot. Are you taking a multi vitamin also? That makes a big difference.0 -
I ended up upping my carbs to 50 for the night cus my head felt so weird and I couldnt sleep. Maybe i'll go down to 30 again today. Anyone else think a multivitamin may work?0
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I went to the store and just bought a regular multivitamin and going to try to hit only 30 carbs again today and see what happens.0
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Just don't understand people who think doing some magical diet will make them lose weight quickly. Unless of course for medical issues, just eat at a reasonable deficit and exercise, it's really that easy!!
I wouldn't say it's easy. Simple, yes. Easy? Not always.
Simple and Easy are synonyms for each other, meaning practically the same thing.
Uh, no, they are not. Hitting a golf ball is simple. You swing the club and hit the ball. But it's really f'in hard to do well. Just like throwing a football. Heck, chess takes 10 minutes to learn but I've never heard anyone say that chess is easy.
Look it up in a dictionary/thesaurus....they are synonyms for each other, and mean practically the same thing.
Now don't get me wrong, changing your eating habits is not easy or really simple for that matter, but the idea behind it is both simple and easy
The concept of eating less and moving more is simple.
The application of eating less and moving more is not always easy
If it was, there would be no need for this website, special fad diets, or any other bs people use to try to lose weight. But if you want to continue splitting hairs, be my guest.
I am pretty sure we are saying the same thing here!
I was just saying that the definitions of both words in a dictionary mean almost the same thing.
ETA : the thesaurus has them both a synonyms for each other also
the thesaurus doesn't only give words that are 100% synonymous, each of the words in each thesaurus entry have some degree of similarity in meaning but they're not synonymous in every context. It's always a good idea to look words you find in a thesaurus up in a dictionary before using them, as not all the words will be a suitable replacement for the word you want to replace in the context you want to use it.
simple and easy don't mean exactly the same. Simple is the opposite of complex... complex means it has many parts or many steps. A torch is a simple machine because it just has a lightbulb, a switch, wires and a battery. A car engine is a complex machine, because it has many different parts to it. You can't say "a torch is an easy machine" or "a car is a difficult machine" - in this context easy is not synonymous with simple (or complex with difficult). In the context of a maths class, easy and simple may be synonymous, e.g. 1+1= is a maths problem that's both simple and easy. So in this context they are synonymous.
weight loss is simple, but it's not always easy. simple because all you need is a calorie deficit... but actually finding the right way for you as an individual to eat at a deficit and maintain that way of eating long term so you can get to and maintain a healthy weight.... not easy.
You folks are reading way to far into my harmless statement.0 -
Crazy talk! You mean cutting out your body's number one energy source gives you a lack of energy? No way!:drinker:maybe, just maybe, you're lacking energy because you're not eating enough carbohydrate0 -
Multivitamins will not replace carbs. If you suspect a vitamin deficiency, it is time to closely look at your diary and see what are your vitamin sources. I doubt you can develop a vitamin deficiency in a few weeks, unless you are e.g. avoiding any fresh product (animal or vegetable) like the plague, or that it would explain your symptoms.0
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Crazy talk! You mean cutting out your body's number one energy source gives you a lack of energy? No way!:drinker:maybe, just maybe, you're lacking energy because you're not eating enough carbohydrate
Number 2 energy source and then the body can make it itself. Although just to correct you, I don't think the OP has been cutting OUT carbs, she has been eating low carbs.
That said as she is only doing this for 30 days - not sure what benefits she will se in such a short period of time.0 -
Some of my pants that used to be tighter arent as tight any more. Going to just have to wait and see if they still fit better once I get my water weight back. Saves me money from having to go to the store and buy new clothes since all my pants were getting too tight.0
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Crazy talk! You mean cutting out your body's number one energy source gives you a lack of energy? No way!:drinker:maybe, just maybe, you're lacking energy because you're not eating enough carbohydrate
Number 2 energy source and then the body can make it itself. Although just to correct you, I don't think the OP has been cutting OUT carbs, she has been eating low carbs.
That said as she is only doing this for 30 days - not sure what benefits she will se in such a short period of time.
"She" is a 36 year old male--according to his profile.0 -
Crazy talk! You mean cutting out your body's number one energy source gives you a lack of energy? No way!:drinker:maybe, just maybe, you're lacking energy because you're not eating enough carbohydrate
Number 2 energy source and then the body can make it itself. Although just to correct you, I don't think the OP has been cutting OUT carbs, she has been eating low carbs.
That said as she is only doing this for 30 days - not sure what benefits she will se in such a short period of time.
"She" is a 36 year old male--according to his profile.
LOL - Sorry OP!!
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And ignore the naysayers about the low carb diets, because it is a diet and it works.
Watch out when you carb up since it will knock you out of ketosis.
I am not a naysayer about low carbs...I can't eat that way but if you can and feel good...then go for it.
However...
You yourself said that you have days that you feel dizzy...that you have to up your sodium and other things to off set this. You also mentioned exercise...I assume this is because of low energy.
I read Chris Powells book on carb-cycling...tried it for about two weeks...ditched it for something that did not give me brain fog...irritability...low energy...etc...etc.
Here is what I do question about low carb. In Powelt's book he had a statement that went something like this...
"If you are experiencing brain fog...if you are feeling weak...irritable...then it is working."
My question is...why would anyone follow a diet that gives them "brain fog"...not to mention all the rest of that stuff?
I know...I know...give your body time to adjust. My thoughts...the human body can adjust to various situations...some of them not so good for said body...so unless you have a medical reason...why would you adjust to something that has side affects of dizziness?
Again...I am not a naysayer...I am trying to moderate my carbs(yes...I am a carb lover). I am doing this however so that I can increase my protein and fats and still stay in my calorie range.0 -
And ignore the naysayers about the low carb diets, because it is a diet and it works.
Watch out when you carb up since it will knock you out of ketosis.
I am not a naysayer about low carbs...I can't eat that way but if you can and feel good...then go for it.
However...
You yourself said that you have days that you feel dizzy...that you have to up your sodium and other things to off set this. You also mentioned exercise...I assume this is because of low energy.
I read Chris Powells book on carb-cycling...tried it for about two weeks...ditched it for something that did not give me brain fog...irritability...low energy...etc...etc.
Here is what I do question about low carb. In Powelt's book he had a statement that went something like this...
"If you are experiencing brain fog...if you are feeling weak...irritable...then it is working."
My question is...why would anyone follow a diet that gives them "brain fog"...not to mention all the rest of that stuff?
I know...I know...give your body time to adjust. My thoughts...the human body can adjust to various situations...some of them not so good for said body...so unless you have a medical reason...why would you adjust to something that has side affects of dizziness?
Again...I am not a naysayer...I am trying to moderate my carbs(yes...I am a carb lover). I am doing this however so that I can increase my protein and fats and still stay in my calorie range.
The reason people get brain fog (for some its a day for others it can be a couple of weeks) is because the diet (med to high carb) in their upbringing (I'm generalising and drawing from personal experience) has made there body reliant on glucose as a primary fuel source.
My own personal view on this (although I am sure it is shared by a majority of other people on LCHF diets) is that glucose whilst a quick burning fuel source is not necessarily the most efficient.
For example your body can only store a limited amount of it at any one time, therefore a constant refuelling process is needed.
Also while it is optimal to consume a limited amount of carbs a day - it is not essential, your body can produce more than enough glycogen to fuel the brain, other organs and cells which require glucose.
And unless you are training each day at + 75% effort, your muscles can quite happily function without vast amounts of glucose.
Once LCHF dieters have adapted there body's (and have moved beyond the fog - my personal experience was 2 days and it wasn't that unpleasant) you do not have to rely on constant re-fuelling, you can eat when your hungry and you have a constant stream of energy (using ketones for fuel).
I can get up on a Sunday morning, have a cup of coffee - do a 9 mile hike with friends and not need to eat until about 1pm, all whilst having no dips or spikes in my energy levels.
I can normally eat about noon on week days and then in the evening (on Mondays and Tuesdays) about 7pm play 2 hours of doubles tennis and not need to eat second meal until 9.30pm, all without energy loss (plus I am finding I can get around the court easier).
In fact the only time I carb up is before my high intensity sprint sessions on a Friday and Ju-Jitsu on a Wednesday.
For me that's how much I need a medium to high carb diet and yes it was worth getting through the fog.
I think not everyone will adapt as well, but for the ones that do I am sure my experience is similar to theirs.
But LCHF is only one way of losing weight. A calorie counting deficit works just as well.0 -
I think "yo-yo" is the operative word.
I would suggest before you start anything, educate yourself on which journey you would like to embark on and will follow as a life style.
Before I started my weight loss life style I looked around these forums...read what some of the members were doing, checked some books from the library, and picked the style that best fit my way of wanting to live the rest of my life.
And it never hurts to get a good physical work up and talk with your doctor about appropriate exercise.
Good luck with whatever you choose. :flowerforyou:0 -
Just don't understand people who think doing some magical diet will make them lose weight quickly. Unless of course for medical issues, just eat at a reasonable deficit and exercise, it's really that easy!!
I wouldn't say it's easy. Simple, yes. Easy? Not always.
Simple and Easy are synonyms for each other, meaning practically the same thing.
Not always...
Something can be simple to understand but not easy to execute.
Such as my eating/fitness plan...it is very simple...eat less/healthier and move more with the most beneficial moves. That is fairly simple. It has not always been easy to determine...what foods that I need to accomplish what I want and what moves to do to get to the fitness level that I desire.
Simple plan...not always easy to accomplish.
Plus my mind and my body...well...they will sometimes tell me my simple plan is cr'p!0 -
I dont believe too much in net carbs so if it has carbs I count all the carbs for my day. Im eating a veggie every other day since I dont like too many, but I also was horribly constipated one day so I decided to fit in some veggies. Today Im going to have me a ceasar salad and day after tomorrow going to eat green beans.
Your statement sounds as if you are trying to eat defensively...eating to fix problems that your diet is causing. Why not take a more proactive course...eat to prevent problems.
We all find ourselves having to adjust some things in our diet...I have worked on sodium, potassium, upping our fats or proteins.
Sorry but it sounds a little strange...at least to me...for someone to say...day after tomorrow I am going to have green beans to fix my constipation!0 -
Here's my experience of "Low Carb"
6 months on Dukan diet....only about 20g of carbs/day
Lost weight quickly then after 3 months...stagnation...probably ate heaps of protein which still gave me lots of calories.
I adjusted to the dizziness....eventually but it never really went away for good.
After 3 months of stagnation I went back to my "norm" or "super norm"....end result I'm heavier than I have ever been 2 years on.
Was it worth it? Temporarily it was great to look good though I NEVER felt good/energetic so never again
I have borderline kidney problems, kidney stones and gallstones now....so really I would NEVER do a low carb diet again.0 -
Here's my experience of "Low Carb"
6 months on Dukan diet....only about 20g of carbs/day
Lost weight quickly then after 3 months...stagnation...probably ate heaps of protein which still gave me lots of calories.
I adjusted to the dizziness....eventually but it never really went away for good.
After 3 months of stagnation I went back to my "norm" or "super norm"....end result I'm heavier than I have ever been 2 years on.
Was it worth it? Temporarily it was great to look good though I NEVER felt good/energetic so never again
I have borderline kidney problems now....so really I would NEVER do a low carb diet again.
Ouch - kidney problems doesn't sound good. 20g carbs is seriously low (IMO), I know some Aitkin Dieters can work well on 20g (but not for me).
Hope your better now though.0 -
I have been on a low carb diet for about a month. It was initially a challenge because I was carb addicted too, but I stuck it out. I don't really crave carbs any longer, but on my birthday I had a flour less chocolate lava cake. With 10 minutes I felt horrible, with nausea, GI upset and headache. I feel fantastic and better than I felt before. It's the right choice for some people but I think it's a lifestyle change, not a 30 day challenge.0
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