Is butter the devil?

krist3ng
krist3ng Posts: 259 Member
in Food and Nutrition
http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545

I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)

What are your opinions?
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  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
    If butter is wrong, I don't want to be right!
  • Pirate_chick
    Pirate_chick Posts: 1,216 Member
    If butter is wrong, I don't want to be right!

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  • enchantedgardener
    enchantedgardener Posts: 214 Member
    I love butter.

    In moderation, of course. But YUM!
  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
    I don't agree with a whole lotta things on that website, but I respect the writer in admitting a truth many will not..

    Quote a bunch of research showing evidence on both sides...

    And forget it I don't know.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545

    I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)

    What are your opinions?

    Your Dr is an idiot and should know that high cholesterol, especially the hereditary version. Eating things with cholesterol or saturated fat doesn't increase your cholesterol levels, in MOST cases it will actually decrease cholesterol levels.

    My advice is to seek a second opinion.

    Here is some reading about fat and cholesterol from well respected Dr's.

    http://coconutoil.com/mary_enig/

    http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm
  • Snooozie
    Snooozie Posts: 3,465 Member
    I got my cholesterol down from 4.4 to 2.1 by cutting down on many of my high cholesterol choices and replacing them with healthier ones.... but I won't :laugh: live in a world without butter lol.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    For me it's just not worth the calories, except in baked goods.
  • Pirate_chick
    Pirate_chick Posts: 1,216 Member
    This comment from the page!!! All of it!!!
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    YOU GUYS: EAT FOOD. THAT IS IT. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, JUST EAT FOOD.

    People who get so fired up and nitpicky about single sources of "problems" are just falling for EVEN MORE food propaganda. The key to diet is and always has been balance. You need fat. You need carbs. You need salt. You need vitamins. So EAT THEM. Get them from real food instead of from pills or processed crap. The fat marbling in a steak will NOT KILL YOU.

    A shocking thing happens to your body when you start eating real food again: your cravings change. Suddenly you find yourself craving vegetables, or lentils. Your body remembers there is more than one source of iron and when you crave it (as I always do right before my period) you find yourself not just craving beef, but spinach as well. A slice of toast with butter satisfies a fat craving the way three cans of Pringles never can. You start feeling better (because food! You're eating real food!!) and junk food that once was so appealing just... isn't anymore.

    And if you get drunk and chow down on McDonalds... NOTHING BAD HAPPENS! Because you eat food the rest of the time! (OK, that's a lie, the McDonalds will make you feel like crap but you'll have a real meal 10 hours later and everything will be okay. Bodies are shockingly communicative and resilient.)

    Honestly, the Michael Pollan method is the best method I have ever found, not just for losing weight but for having your diet actually help you feel better on a daily basis: Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

    It really is that easy. (And yes, it works for all socioeconomic levels too, and does not require you to eat rice and beans every night. I am sensitive to the many, many factors outside of nutritional content that are influential on diets. A little forethought and some focus when choosing convenient meals can go a LOOOOOONG way.)
  • krist3ng
    krist3ng Posts: 259 Member
    I got my cholesterol down from 4.4 to 2.1 by cutting down on many of my high cholesterol choices and replacing them with healthier ones.... but I won't :laugh: live in a world without butter lol.

    Yeah, I forgot to write down what my cholesterol is, I just know my doctor was like, "that's quite high for someone your age!". It's easy for me to stop eating butter, though, because I mainly had it SLATHERED on a bagel for breakfast (like, an insane amount of butter), and I kind of had to stop having such a dreadful, heartburn-inducing breakfast when I made the commitment to get healthy!
  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
    In my opinion it's just a waste of calories. I don't want an extra 100 calories on my breakfast that is totally devoid of nutritional value and does nothing to help me feel full.
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    I eat butter... and I won't stop.

    Read this: http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/the-straight-dope-on-cholesterol-part-i

    Plan to be there for a while - it's a 10 part series on how cholesterol REALLY works, what it's purpose is (which makes it good for you) and how to control it (b/c when out of control, it can be bad). Bottom line though, blood cholesterol does not come from EATING cholesterol. The cholesterol your doctor is concerned about is actually made by your body.
  • jenn26point2
    jenn26point2 Posts: 429 Member
    devoid of nutritonal value??? Who says?

    Fitday.com says differently: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-butter.html

    "Commercial butter is composed of 80 to 82% fat, 16 to 17% water and 1 to 2% curd or other solids. Some butter contains salt, which makes up 1 to 2% of the butter.

    Butter contains protein, calcium and phosphorus. The main vitamins in butter include vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin E and vitamin K. Additional nutrients in butter include fatty acids, lactones, methyl ketones and dimethl and diacetyl sulfide.

    While butter is high in fat, this fat features heart-healthy fats, which have shown to lower cholesterol, prevent certain cancers and prevent the spread or growth of tumors. Butter is one of the easiest forms of vitamin A to absorb. Vitamin A promotes good vision, a healthy thyroid and adrenal health.

    Butter contains antioxidants, specifically selenium, which helps protect the body from free radical damage. Additionally, butter contains iodine, which has shown to support the thyroid gland."

    Or how bout this link? http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/why-butter-is-better

    Do a quick google search and you'll see butter is NOT devoid of nutrition and is actually better for you than it's substitute.
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 526 Member
    Butter from grass fed cows!!! YUM!! (It is higher in Omega-3... and creamier.) And since it is expensive, (both in money and in calories) I find I use it sparingly.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    Yes

    Butter is the devil, and after you die, it'll be poking you with a pitch fork as you burn in the depths of hell.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    If butter is wrong, I don't want to be right!

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  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
    devoid of nutritonal value??? Who says?

    Fitday.com says differently: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-butter.html

    "Commercial butter is composed of 80 to 82% fat, 16 to 17% water and 1 to 2% curd or other solids. Some butter contains salt, which makes up 1 to 2% of the butter.

    Butter contains protein, calcium and phosphorus. The main vitamins in butter include vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin E and vitamin K. Additional nutrients in butter include fatty acids, lactones, methyl ketones and dimethl and diacetyl sulfide.

    While butter is high in fat, this fat features heart-healthy fats, which have shown to lower cholesterol, prevent certain cancers and prevent the spread or growth of tumors. Butter is one of the easiest forms of vitamin A to absorb. Vitamin A promotes good vision, a healthy thyroid and adrenal health.

    Butter contains antioxidants, specifically selenium, which helps protect the body from free radical damage. Additionally, butter contains iodine, which has shown to support the thyroid gland."

    Or how bout this link? http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/why-butter-is-better

    Do a quick google search and you'll see butter is NOT devoid of nutrition and is actually better for you than it's substitute.

    Butter is just completely unnecessary. Whatever minerals are in butter can be found in a healthy balanced diet with no need for a calorie laden spread.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    In my opinion it's just a waste of calories. I don't want an extra 100 calories on my breakfast that is totally devoid of nutritional value and does nothing to help me feel full.

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    How about *fat is a macronutrient* not to mention potassium and vitamins... :angry:
  • ksuh999
    ksuh999 Posts: 543 Member
    http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545

    I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)

    What are your opinions?

    Your Dr is an idiot and should know that high cholesterol, especially the hereditary version. Eating things with cholesterol or saturated fat doesn't increase your cholesterol levels, in MOST cases it will actually decrease cholesterol levels.

    My advice is to seek a second opinion.

    Here is some reading about fat and cholesterol from well respected Dr's.

    http://coconutoil.com/mary_enig/

    http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm
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  • SamanthaD1218
    SamanthaD1218 Posts: 303 Member
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  • Sovi_
    Sovi_ Posts: 575 Member
    No Silly, Carbs are.
  • MiloBloom83
    MiloBloom83 Posts: 2,724 Member
    devoid of nutritonal value??? Who says?

    Fitday.com says differently: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-butter.html

    "Commercial butter is composed of 80 to 82% fat, 16 to 17% water and 1 to 2% curd or other solids. Some butter contains salt, which makes up 1 to 2% of the butter.

    Butter contains protein, calcium and phosphorus. The main vitamins in butter include vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin E and vitamin K. Additional nutrients in butter include fatty acids, lactones, methyl ketones and dimethl and diacetyl sulfide.

    While butter is high in fat, this fat features heart-healthy fats, which have shown to lower cholesterol, prevent certain cancers and prevent the spread or growth of tumors. Butter is one of the easiest forms of vitamin A to absorb. Vitamin A promotes good vision, a healthy thyroid and adrenal health.

    Butter contains antioxidants, specifically selenium, which helps protect the body from free radical damage. Additionally, butter contains iodine, which has shown to support the thyroid gland."

    Or how bout this link? http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/why-butter-is-better

    Do a quick google search and you'll see butter is NOT devoid of nutrition and is actually better for you than it's substitute.

    Butter is just completely unnecessary. Whatever minerals are in butter can be found in a healthy balanced diet with no need for a calorie laden spread.

    But have you tasted it? Wait, clearly you have not, or you wouldn't say butter is unnecessary.

    I only eat butter. Some things are worth their calories.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    olive oil is great, but it is not the end all be all for cooking.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/christinebyrne/things-you-shouldnt-be-cooking-with-olive-oil
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
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  • magtart
    magtart Posts: 161 Member
    I eat butter and I am not worried about it.
  • somefitsomefat
    somefitsomefat Posts: 445 Member
    http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545

    I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)

    What are your opinions?

    Your Dr is an idiot and should know that high cholesterol, especially the hereditary version. Eating things with cholesterol or saturated fat doesn't increase your cholesterol levels, in MOST cases it will actually decrease cholesterol levels.

    My advice is to seek a second opinion.

    Here is some reading about fat and cholesterol from well respected Dr's.

    http://coconutoil.com/mary_enig/

    http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

    I'll be really shallow and say that I'd probably trust these "well respected Dr's" if they didn't have websites that look like they were designed by 5 year olds.
  • Tillyecl1
    Tillyecl1 Posts: 189 Member
    Sorry, this might be the only time I ever get to write this sentence, I believe it's butter the devil you know. :-P. I love butter, wouldn't swap it for anything else, I would rather not have anything.
  • Escloflowne
    Escloflowne Posts: 2,038 Member
    I got my cholesterol down from 4.4 to 2.1 by cutting down on many of my high cholesterol choices and replacing them with healthier ones.... but I won't :laugh: live in a world without butter lol.

    I would bet a lot of money that your cholesterol went down more because you lost 29lbs and less because you "replaced high cholesterol choices"

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  • tomwatso
    tomwatso Posts: 1,304 Member
    I don't believe that butter is evil. HFC Syrup may be. Read the book "Food Rules." I read it and when grocery shopping. Just see what you can and cannot buy using those rules. Try it. It is a real fun game.
  • thohan99
    thohan99 Posts: 20 Member
    I think you may be reading the wrong websites.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    devoid of nutritonal value??? Who says?

    Fitday.com says differently: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/the-nutrition-of-butter.html

    "Commercial butter is composed of 80 to 82% fat, 16 to 17% water and 1 to 2% curd or other solids. Some butter contains salt, which makes up 1 to 2% of the butter.

    Butter contains protein, calcium and phosphorus. The main vitamins in butter include vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin E and vitamin K. Additional nutrients in butter include fatty acids, lactones, methyl ketones and dimethl and diacetyl sulfide.

    While butter is high in fat, this fat features heart-healthy fats, which have shown to lower cholesterol, prevent certain cancers and prevent the spread or growth of tumors. Butter is one of the easiest forms of vitamin A to absorb. Vitamin A promotes good vision, a healthy thyroid and adrenal health.

    Butter contains antioxidants, specifically selenium, which helps protect the body from free radical damage. Additionally, butter contains iodine, which has shown to support the thyroid gland."

    Or how bout this link? http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/why-butter-is-better

    Do a quick google search and you'll see butter is NOT devoid of nutrition and is actually better for you than it's substitute.

    Butter is just completely unnecessary. Whatever minerals are in butter can be found in a healthy balanced diet with no need for a calorie laden spread.

    But have you tasted it? Wait, clearly you have not, or you wouldn't say butter is unnecessary.

    I only eat butter. Some things are worth their calories.

    Like caramel apple dumplings....for starters...made with butter of course

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