Is butter the devil?
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And a high fat diet is super healthy as everyone knows. Not responsible for obesity or food addiction or anything.
I really don't have a horse in this race because I actually use margarine (ZOMG plastic and flies and stuff).
But I did have to jump in here and state that the macro-nutriet ratio of ANY diet is not what causes obesity. And that dietary fats are vital for hormone regulation...
...just in case any newbies think that its necessary to eliminate fat from their diets.
I know fat is not evil. But high fat diets discourage the intake of carbs including fruits and veggies. Not to mention that a typical overweight or obese person taken in about 40-60% of their calories from fat, which is excessive. All the macro nutrients should be eaten in moderation.
That makes NO sense at all. If it works for you, great, but don't pretend that your preferences are fact-based science that works for everyone.0 -
http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545
I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)
What are your opinions?
Fat is healthy as long as it is healthy fat! Grass fed butter is what you should be eating.
Grass fed is ideal, however if you can only get grain fed then it is still a better option than cooking oils like veg oil or sunflower oil and certainly a better option than margarine.
Plus it tastes soooo much better.
I prefer my butter to be made from cream rather than grass, but then, sometimes, I soak my grass in the butter to make "grown-up" brownies. :laugh: :smokin: (Just keep the heat low so you don't burn the grass!)0 -
http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545
I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)
What are your opinions?
Fat is healthy as long as it is healthy fat! Grass fed butter is what you should be eating.
Grass fed is ideal, however if you can only get grain fed then it is still a better option than cooking oils like veg oil or sunflower oil and certainly a better option than margarine.
Plus it tastes soooo much better.
I prefer my butter to be made from cream rather than grass, but then, sometimes, I soak my grass in the butter to make "grown-up" brownies. :laugh: :smokin: (Just keep the heat low so you don't burn the grass!)
I bet you eat it straight out of the 'pot' as well. lol0 -
Olive Oil has a low smoke point so not really suitable for high heat cooking like frying.
Coconut Oil has a high smoke point although it can add a coconutty flavour to the food which may not be to your liking.
My alternative is peanut oil. Love it!0 -
http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545
I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)
What are your opinions?
Fat is healthy as long as it is healthy fat! Grass fed butter is what you should be eating.
Grass fed is ideal, however if you can only get grain fed then it is still a better option than cooking oils like veg oil or sunflower oil and certainly a better option than margarine.
Plus it tastes soooo much better.
I prefer my butter to be made from cream rather than grass, but then, sometimes, I soak my grass in the butter to make "grown-up" brownies. :laugh: :smokin: (Just keep the heat low so you don't burn the grass!)
I bet you eat it straight out of the 'pot' as well. lol
No way, Dude, it's a whole process. Check YouTube. :devil:0 -
Butter is so much better for you then that GMO oil fake butter crap. Just don't use a ton on everything and you will be fine.0
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http://jezebel.com/butter-was-back-but-now-maybe-not-1555374545
I avoid butter because I have hereditary high cholesterol, and my doctor said "NO MORE BUTTER!!". Now I only use olive oil for cooking. (I'm sure there's butter in the stuff I eat, but I don't have buttered bread or whatnot anymore.)
What are your opinions?
Fat is healthy as long as it is healthy fat! Grass fed butter is what you should be eating.
Kerrygold Unsalted Butter, FTW!! Best store-bought butter in existence.0 -
Well, my butter has horns and a tale, so maybe.0
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I do agree, but i should add that many cows are fed GMO corn all day, so any ill effects from the GMO just wind up in your diet anyway.Butter is so much better for you then that GMO oil fake butter crap. Just don't use a ton on everything and you will be fine.0 -
I heard somewhere that oranges grow outside, on trees! Yuck. I'm not eating that! Butter, now butter comes in those nice little tubs or bricks and it stops the jam or mustard from soaking into the bread. Can olive oil do that?
Man these threads that demonize food make me facepalm. :grumble:0 -
Mmm, butter. I will use a "pat" of butter every now and again. Like others, I prefer it to all the fake stuff out there.
"Everything is the devil to you, MAMA!"
-Bobby Boucher0 -
If you want to get good information on the pros and cons of different types of fat, I'd suggest looking for articles written by nutrition professionals, that don't use the F word, and don't think lentils, fruits and vegetables are whole grains.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.0 -
I prefer Kerrygold as well.
They make good cheese, too.
Dubliner and Ballyshannon can easily be the bane of my movie night, the delicious grass-fed bane.
I would love to cut the butter out into heart shapes and put them on my honey's sweet potato with sprinkles of cinnamon!
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Mmm, butter. I will use a "pat" of butter every now and again. Like others, I prefer it to all the fake stuff out there.
"Everything is the debbil to you, MAMA!"
-Bobby Boucher
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I put butter in my coffee. I'm not dead yet.....as far as I know.0
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Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.0 -
I couldn't live without butter!
Butter and peanut butter are my go-to fats when I need to hit my macros. They make me so happy.0 -
If butter is the devil, I will happily suck **** in hell.0
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Big fan of butter , eat it everyday and I've lost 56 lbs and have no issues with cholesterol etc I just don't eat lots of it. I don't eat margarine which tastes awful and isn't really food in my opinion.
Olive oil is good but its not supposed to be good if you heat it, I know a few people from Mediterranean/ Middle eastern countries they never cook/fry with olive oil they just drizzle it over food after its cooked or drizzle it on bread etc.0 -
Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.
?? I fail to see how what I believe could be relevant to the study's problems. The study's authors republishing to correct several errors certainly does, though. But shockingly, the mass media didn't give that as much coverage. Some scientists don't think that's enough and are calling for a total retraction.0 -
A link would probably be a nice touch.
Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.
?? I fail to see how what I believe could be relevant to the study's problems. The study's authors republishing to correct several errors certainly does, though. But shockingly, the mass media didn't give that as much coverage. Some scientists don't think that's enough and are calling for a total retraction.0 -
A link would probably be a nice touch.
Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.
?? I fail to see how what I believe could be relevant to the study's problems. The study's authors republishing to correct several errors certainly does, though. But shockingly, the mass media didn't give that as much coverage. Some scientists don't think that's enough and are calling for a total retraction.
Consider yourself nicely touched.
http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/03/scientists-fix-errors-controversial-paper-about-saturated-fats0 -
Thank you. It would be natural that the study would get a few peoples panties in a bunch. Not surprising Willett was involved considering it goes totally against his beliefs.......but then again he's also the one that brought HRT to the masses only to find out that instead of a 50% reduction in breast cancer actually increase cancer by 35%..........quite the fiasco. Also no mention of saturated fat for corrections, just some posturing about polyunsaturated fats.
A link would probably be a nice touch.
Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.
?? I fail to see how what I believe could be relevant to the study's problems. The study's authors republishing to correct several errors certainly does, though. But shockingly, the mass media didn't give that as much coverage. Some scientists don't think that's enough and are calling for a total retraction.
Consider yourself nicely touched.
http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/03/scientists-fix-errors-controversial-paper-about-saturated-fats0 -
A link would probably be a nice touch.
Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.
?? I fail to see how what I believe could be relevant to the study's problems. The study's authors republishing to correct several errors certainly does, though. But shockingly, the mass media didn't give that as much coverage. Some scientists don't think that's enough and are calling for a total retraction.
Consider yourself nicely touched.
http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/03/scientists-fix-errors-controversial-paper-about-saturated-fats
Hmm. Just from reading that article, I don't see how the changes will much effect the outcome of the meta-analysis. It only mentions a couple of studies that should have been included, but how much would they, or did they change the ultimate conclusion? Perhaps only slightly, depending on the sizes of the studies, we don't know. Or has it been republished?
"The errors "demonstrate shoddy research and make one wonder whether there are more that haven't been detected," writes Jim Mann, a researcher at the University of Otago, Dunedin, in New Zealand, writes in an e-mail. "If I had been the referee I would have recommended rejection.""
Heheh. My colleagues and I used to review papers and pick them to shreds just as a learning experience. You can find something wrong in almost any study if you look hard enough. The peer review process is better than nothing, but it's not without it's flaws.0 -
I personally never use butter. Margarine is fine with me. I get the non-hydrogenated, made with olive oil so it's not so bad!0
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I like a little bread on my butter. Hell, even butter on butter.0
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High fat low carb diets are really coming into light at the moment, there have been so many studies proving its effectiveness on weightloss and a healthy overall goal.
I don't mind butter, I don't eat buckets of the stuff but if I fry I may use butter, why not? I also eat **** loads of cheese. I love cheese 0 -
I've been watching this with great interest partly because it impacts my work. I'm still not convinced that saturated fats are OK, but people are certainly questioning dietary guidelines because of the media frenzy over the original article.
A link would probably be a nice touch.
Especially true if one believes saturated fat is bad........like you do.
That said, the recent much touted by the media meta-analysis showing saturated fat as healthy as unsaturated fat was indeed full of error.
?? I fail to see how what I believe could be relevant to the study's problems. The study's authors republishing to correct several errors certainly does, though. But shockingly, the mass media didn't give that as much coverage. Some scientists don't think that's enough and are calling for a total retraction.
Consider yourself nicely touched.
http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/03/scientists-fix-errors-controversial-paper-about-saturated-fats
I rarely eat butter and I buy margarine enriched with plant sterols for DH because of a family cholesterol problem. I sometimes cook with butter though. Butter cream frosting just doesn't cut it with margarine.0 -
No Silly, Carbs are.
Do not besmirch my potatoes, young lady. Just put the butter on them.0
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