Dairy Alarmism
Replies
-
Why is no photography alarming? Farms are businesses, and all businesses have trade secrets. No business will allow you to wander into their private facilities and photograph or video tape, with express permission. That has more to do with corporate espionage, than trying to cover up mistreatment of animals. It's pretty much a standard for every business. I can't think of any business that would allow me to just walk in and snap pictures, unless I'm on a specific guided tour.I read what it's about and it mentions you can't go there and video tape/take pictures. No where did I see that people aren't allowed in.
I didn't realize it was contagious, but it looks like you caught my quoting problem.
I didn't see anything against going in either. I read just one of the articles, an article from Forbes, thinking they'd be the most Ag-friendly, but they weren't in this case.
Whether or not you can legally visit one of the sites may be beside the point, since I'm pretty sure you'd still need explicit permission from the owner or face jail time for trespassing. But laws prohibiting photography is alarming, IMO. Even a pro-Ag person should be wondering what they're trying to hide.
Yes, this is very true! I work in BioTech now (no animals) and photography has always been prohibited within the buildings. But they likely just don't want the public to see how we are confined to tiny little cubicles and only allowed out for an hour at lunch time.
Photography has also been banned in many public institutions, especially federal ones.
It's a conspiracy!
I seriously don't understand why I can't wander into people's homes and photograph them nekkid.0 -
Why is no photography alarming? Farms are businesses, and all businesses have trade secrets. No business will allow you to wander into their private facilities and photograph or video tape, with express permission. That has more to do with corporate espionage, than trying to cover up mistreatment of animals. It's pretty much a standard for every business. I can't think of any business that would allow me to just walk in and snap pictures, unless I'm on a specific guided tour.I read what it's about and it mentions you can't go there and video tape/take pictures. No where did I see that people aren't allowed in.
I didn't realize it was contagious, but it looks like you caught my quoting problem.
I didn't see anything against going in either. I read just one of the articles, an article from Forbes, thinking they'd be the most Ag-friendly, but they weren't in this case.
Whether or not you can legally visit one of the sites may be beside the point, since I'm pretty sure you'd still need explicit permission from the owner or face jail time for trespassing. But laws prohibiting photography is alarming, IMO. Even a pro-Ag person should be wondering what they're trying to hide.
Yes, this is very true! I work in BioTech now (no animals) and photography has always been prohibited within the buildings. But they likely just don't want the public to see how we are confined to tiny little cubicles and only allowed out for an hour at lunch time.
Photography has also been banned in many public institutions, especially federal ones.
It's a conspiracy!
I seriously don't understand why I can't wander into people's homes and photograph them nekkid.
You mean you CAN'T?!?
0 -
TO THE COW: My deepest apologies about the whole enslavement thing. Our bad. We had bad nutritional info.
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.0 -
I haven't seen any health effects that would lead me to avoid dairy. I personally produce so much lactase that people can become lactose tolerant just by being in my domain.
Some people (e.g., vegans) avoid dairy for ethical reasons. Dairy cattle lead short lives, and are subjected to cruel treatment. It's because we have an idea that a gallon of milk should cost $2, not because cruelty makes the milk taste better.
!!! $2 per gallon for milk?!!?! Here in Northern California it's $3.50 to $4 per gallon.0 -
TO THE COW: My deepest apologies about the whole enslavement thing. Our bad. We had bad nutritional info.
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
meh, cows are tasty and make great shoes.0 -
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
en·slave·ment
enˈslāvmənt/
noun
noun: enslavement; plural noun: enslavements
1.
the action of making someone a slave; subjugation.
synonyms: slavery, servitude, bondage, forced labor;
exploitation, oppression, bonds, chains, fetters, shackles
check, check, check, check.. how are dairy farms not slavery again? oh wait.. you think its absolutely outrageous when it happens to one species but perfectly fine when it happens to another species, after all.. the latter benefits you.0 -
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
en·slave·ment
enˈslāvmənt/
noun
noun: enslavement; plural noun: enslavements
1.
the action of making someone a slave; subjugation.
synonyms: slavery, servitude, bondage, forced labor;
exploitation, oppression, bonds, chains, fetters, shackles
check, check, check, check.. how are dairy farms not slavery again? oh wait.. you think its absolutely outrageous when it happens to one species but perfectly fine when it happens to another species, after all.. the latter benefits you.
lol - "outrageous" hahahahaha!
People create and are guided by ethics. Cows make tasty meat and dairy, and excellent leather.0 -
This content has been removed.
-
I'm enslaved 4 dogs as we speak.......I'm going to hell.Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
en·slave·ment
enˈslāvmənt/
noun
noun: enslavement; plural noun: enslavements
1.
the action of making someone a slave; subjugation.
synonyms: slavery, servitude, bondage, forced labor;
exploitation, oppression, bonds, chains, fetters, shackles
check, check, check, check.. how are dairy farms not slavery again? oh wait.. you think its absolutely outrageous when it happens to one species but perfectly fine when it happens to another species, after all.. the latter benefits you.
Try and build modern civilization without the "slavery" of animals0 -
Why is no photography alarming? Farms are businesses, and all businesses have trade secrets. No business will allow you to wander into their private facilities and photograph or video tape, with express permission. That has more to do with corporate espionage, than trying to cover up mistreatment of animals. It's pretty much a standard for every business. I can't think of any business that would allow me to just walk in and snap pictures, unless I'm on a specific guided tour.I read what it's about and it mentions you can't go there and video tape/take pictures. No where did I see that people aren't allowed in.
I didn't realize it was contagious, but it looks like you caught my quoting problem.
I didn't see anything against going in either. I read just one of the articles, an article from Forbes, thinking they'd be the most Ag-friendly, but they weren't in this case.
Whether or not you can legally visit one of the sites may be beside the point, since I'm pretty sure you'd still need explicit permission from the owner or face jail time for trespassing. But laws prohibiting photography is alarming, IMO. Even a pro-Ag person should be wondering what they're trying to hide.
Yes, this is very true! I work in BioTech now (no animals) and photography has always been prohibited within the buildings. But they likely just don't want the public to see how we are confined to tiny little cubicles and only allowed out for an hour at lunch time.
Photography has also been banned in many public institutions, especially federal ones.
It's a conspiracy!
I seriously don't understand why I can't wander into people's homes and photograph them nekkid.
Yeah, if you own a camera, you should be able to use it anywhere. Instagram doesn't post itself, you know.0 -
I haven't seen any health effects that would lead me to avoid dairy. I personally produce so much lactase that people can become lactose tolerant just by being in my domain.
Some people (e.g., vegans) avoid dairy for ethical reasons. Dairy cattle lead short lives, and are subjected to cruel treatment. It's because we have an idea that a gallon of milk should cost $2, not because cruelty makes the milk taste better.
!!! $2 per gallon for milk?!!?! Here in Northern California it's $3.50 to $4 per gallon.
It actually wasn't long ago when milk was $2/gal. Inflation of food prices has been insane lately.0 -
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
en·slave·ment
enˈslāvmənt/
noun
noun: enslavement; plural noun: enslavements
1.
the action of making someone a slave; subjugation.
synonyms: slavery, servitude, bondage, forced labor;
exploitation, oppression, bonds, chains, fetters, shackles
check, check, check, check.. how are dairy farms not slavery again? oh wait.. you think its absolutely outrageous when it happens to one species but perfectly fine when it happens to another species, after all.. the latter benefits you.
cows =/= people0 -
lol - "outrageous" hahahahaha!
english isnt my first language, sorry if i chose the wrong word.
Try and build modern civilization without the "slavery" of animals
i was merely replying to the person i quoted, stating that it is in fact slavery.
and, although beside the point, more modern doesnt necessarily mean better.I'm enslaved 4 dogs as we speak.......I'm going to hell.
im sure you treat your dogs as well as family members and not like objects that you use and abuse, then toss aside when they no longer have anything to give you.cows =/= people
while that is very perceptive of you, who are we to decide which lives are important and which lives arent? every life is precious and cows are sentient beings who feel pain, fear, loss, anxiety. that the majority of humankind does not acknowledge this does not mean its not true.
you can hate me all you want but the facts remain, so even if you dont care, at least acknowledge them.0 -
I have nothing to say, and i haven't read any of the last 200 posts. I'm just adding a post, because we are only 95 posts away from this thread locking, and having it drop off of my "my topics" page.0
-
lol - "outrageous" hahahahaha!
english isnt my first language, sorry if i chose the wrong word.Try and build modern civilization without the "slavery" of animals
i was merely replying to the person i quoted, stating that it is in fact slavery.
and, although beside the point, more modern doesnt necessarily mean better.I'm enslaved 4 dogs as we speak.......I'm going to hell.
im sure you treat your dogs as well as family members and not like objects that you use and abuse, then toss aside when they no longer have anything to give you.cows =/= people
while that is very perceptive of you, who are we to decide which lives are important and which lives arent? every life is precious and cows are sentient beings who feel pain, fear, loss, anxiety. that the majority of humankind does not acknowledge this does not mean its not true.
you can hate me all you want but the facts remain, so even if you dont care, at least acknowledge them.
Can cows act ethically?
From where do your ethics come?
On what basis did you make the decision that every life is precious?
From where do you derive your authority?0 -
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
en·slave·ment
enˈslāvmənt/
noun
noun: enslavement; plural noun: enslavements
1.
the action of making someone a slave; subjugation.
synonyms: slavery, servitude, bondage, forced labor;
exploitation, oppression, bonds, chains, fetters, shackles
check, check, check, check.. how are dairy farms not slavery again? oh wait.. you think its absolutely outrageous when it happens to one species but perfectly fine when it happens to another species, after all.. the latter benefits you.
So I grew some tomatoes last year and kept their babies. I then sliced into their guts and harvested their seeds. I forced my plants to grown where I want them to, when I want them to and then I force them to produce as much as they can until the poor parent plant is exhausted. I let it freeze to death when the first fall frost hits.
Oh, and I will sometimes eat their babies only moments after ripping them from the nurturing embrace of the parent.
I've begun the cycle again this year of forced growth, maturation and death. I look forward to gathering the fruits of my slaving ways.
If those dairy cows only knew how good they had it.0 -
Cattle are sentient? Really? No. Anthropomorphizing an animal doesn't make it human. Also, if having to choose between a cow or a human being, the human being wins every time. Cows have been created by human beings specifically for the role they play in our society, and yes, I mean created. Cows didn't exist until humans created them.0
-
Aside from anything else about the health and/or moral benefits and demerits of dairy, calling the practice of animal husbandry "enslavement" trivializes the experience of humans currently and formerly held in bondage.
en·slave·ment
enˈslāvmənt/
noun
noun: enslavement; plural noun: enslavements
1.
the action of making someone a slave; subjugation.
synonyms: slavery, servitude, bondage, forced labor;
exploitation, oppression, bonds, chains, fetters, shackles
check, check, check, check.. how are dairy farms not slavery again? oh wait.. you think its absolutely outrageous when it happens to one species but perfectly fine when it happens to another species, after all.. the latter benefits you.
I don't know what to say to you right now because you're asking how I can stand something that is different because it's different.
But, uh, this definition might help in parsing the definition you provided for enslavement:
some·one
ˈsəmˌwən
pronoun
pronoun: someone; pronoun: some-one
1. an unknown or unspecified person; some person.
"there's someone at the door"
2.a person of importance or authority.
"a small-time lawyer keen to be someone"
Not to put to fine a point on it but enslavement does not apply to cows by the dictionary definition *you* provided (which I think you did in order to be snarky to me, not helpful, because you know I am familiar with the concept if you read my comment.).0 -
It is intended for baby cows, not humans. you're an adult, time to get off the tit.0
-
It is intended for baby cows, not humans. you're an adult, time to get off the tit.
Not one single food on this planet is intended for human consumption except human breast milk. I guess we all need to stay on the tit if we're to follow your logic.
Life in your world would certainly be interesting.0 -
High fat dairy consumption is actually linked to some types of cancer.
http://www.oncologynutrition.org/erfc/healthy-nutrition-now/dairy-and-ovarian-cancer/0 -
.0
-
High fat dairy consumption is actually linked to some types of cancer.
http://www.oncologynutrition.org/erfc/healthy-nutrition-now/dairy-and-ovarian-cancer/
Here's a direct quote from the article you linked:
Does dairy increase or decrease the risk? There is no clear answer0 -
I like my moo cow milk, and cheese (goat and cow), and ice cream, cream cheese, and milk chocolate...and cream soups and screw it, I LOVE DAIRY! I tend to ignore whatever the latest fad is and just eat a balanced diet. Should you eat (drink) milk as your entire diet...probably not but since you are a rational adult and know that most food in moderation is just hunky dory, I would continue to drink milk and eat yummy dairy products
.
BTW, I will say this about Fat, Carbs, Eggs, Peanuts, Protein and whatever new evil food they come up with to demonize and make you eat rice cakes. I didn't get fat drinking milk, I got fat twin fisting donuts.0 -
I agree but have to admit it's really strange to be using the milk of another species. No one would want to drink human milk beyond infancy but no one bats an eye about cows milk that's considered totally normal lolDairy is fine if your body produces the enzyme lactase. The very recent evolution of the ability to digest dairy products in adulthood is fascinating... this trait has evolved in populations with a long history of dairy farming/herding, e.g. Europeans, Masai (in Africa)... what's most interesting is that this trait evolved at least twice, i.e. separately in both those populations, and it may be the case that it's evolved separately in other dairy/herding populations (the alternative is that gene flow between populations resulted in the trait spreading from one population to another,but it's been demonstrated in scientific studies that the European mutation and Masai mutation for digesting dairy as adults are different and arose separately).
Anyway, whether you find that kind of thing interesting or not, the ability to digest lactose is quite closely tied to ethnic origin (although it's not 100% because of gene flow and archaic genes sticking around) so if your ancestors over the last few thousand years were dairy farmers or herders, chances are you can digest dairy just fine, and there's no reason to avoid it. If your ancestors from this time period didn't have anything to do with dairy, then there's a high probability that you can't digest dairy and in that case you should avoid it. But usually people who are lactose intolerant know about it without being told this information due to getting sick when they eat dairy.
Dairy allergy is separate to lactose intolerance and while I'd love to know the evolutionary history of allergy (which is probably a defence against parasitic infection) I don't know much about it or examples of any particular populations it evolved in. But if you're allergic to milk that's another reason not to drink it.
Unfortunately there's a lot of pseudoscience against milk because both the vegan crowd and the paleo crowd hate on it. There are few things that these two groups agree on, but hatred of dairy products is one. And both groups will tell you "milk is for baby cows not for humans" they also both tend to ignore or be unaware of the fact that humans are highly adaptable in terms of diet, and the ability to digest dairy products has evolved in populations with a long enough history of dairy farming/herding.
I, personally, am from the British Isles and the Britain a history of dairy farming going back at least 5000 years; I can digest dairy just fine and will continue to consume dairy products
:drinker: @ dairy products and the lactase persistence gene
tl;dr: if dairy makes you sick don't eat/drink it, if it doesn't and you like it then eat/drink it0 -
I agree but have to admit it's really strange to be using the milk of another species. No one would want to drink human milk beyond infancy but no one bats an eye about cows milk that's considered totally normal lolDairy is fine if your body produces the enzyme lactase. The very recent evolution of the ability to digest dairy products in adulthood is fascinating... this trait has evolved in populations with a long history of dairy farming/herding, e.g. Europeans, Masai (in Africa)... what's most interesting is that this trait evolved at least twice, i.e. separately in both those populations, and it may be the case that it's evolved separately in other dairy/herding populations (the alternative is that gene flow between populations resulted in the trait spreading from one population to another,but it's been demonstrated in scientific studies that the European mutation and Masai mutation for digesting dairy as adults are different and arose separately).
Anyway, whether you find that kind of thing interesting or not, the ability to digest lactose is quite closely tied to ethnic origin (although it's not 100% because of gene flow and archaic genes sticking around) so if your ancestors over the last few thousand years were dairy farmers or herders, chances are you can digest dairy just fine, and there's no reason to avoid it. If your ancestors from this time period didn't have anything to do with dairy, then there's a high probability that you can't digest dairy and in that case you should avoid it. But usually people who are lactose intolerant know about it without being told this information due to getting sick when they eat dairy.
Dairy allergy is separate to lactose intolerance and while I'd love to know the evolutionary history of allergy (which is probably a defence against parasitic infection) I don't know much about it or examples of any particular populations it evolved in. But if you're allergic to milk that's another reason not to drink it.
Unfortunately there's a lot of pseudoscience against milk because both the vegan crowd and the paleo crowd hate on it. There are few things that these two groups agree on, but hatred of dairy products is one. And both groups will tell you "milk is for baby cows not for humans" they also both tend to ignore or be unaware of the fact that humans are highly adaptable in terms of diet, and the ability to digest dairy products has evolved in populations with a long enough history of dairy farming/herding.
I, personally, am from the British Isles and the Britain a history of dairy farming going back at least 5000 years; I can digest dairy just fine and will continue to consume dairy products
:drinker: @ dairy products and the lactase persistence gene
tl;dr: if dairy makes you sick don't eat/drink it, if it doesn't and you like it then eat/drink it
How does eating the flesh, the unborn embryos or the seeds of another species ok but milk is out of the question?
Explain that logic to me, please!0 -
Why is it strange? We eat all manners of different species, and all different parts of those species. We are humans, we are the apex predators, due to the fact that we've developed technology to overcome our inherent weaknesses. We eat honey, which is bee vomit. We drink milk from cows, goats, yaks, and pretty much any animal that can be milked. Buffalo mozzarella isn't called that because it's from New York, it's because it's made from buffalo milk. We eat what we can derive nourishment from, which in the case of our incredibly adaptable system, is pretty much anything we can get our hands on.
I agree but have to admit it's really strange to be using the milk of another species. No one would want to drink human milk beyond infancy but no one bats an eye about cows milk that's considered totally normal lolDairy is fine if your body produces the enzyme lactase. The very recent evolution of the ability to digest dairy products in adulthood is fascinating... this trait has evolved in populations with a long history of dairy farming/herding, e.g. Europeans, Masai (in Africa)... what's most interesting is that this trait evolved at least twice, i.e. separately in both those populations, and it may be the case that it's evolved separately in other dairy/herding populations (the alternative is that gene flow between populations resulted in the trait spreading from one population to another,but it's been demonstrated in scientific studies that the European mutation and Masai mutation for digesting dairy as adults are different and arose separately).
Anyway, whether you find that kind of thing interesting or not, the ability to digest lactose is quite closely tied to ethnic origin (although it's not 100% because of gene flow and archaic genes sticking around) so if your ancestors over the last few thousand years were dairy farmers or herders, chances are you can digest dairy just fine, and there's no reason to avoid it. If your ancestors from this time period didn't have anything to do with dairy, then there's a high probability that you can't digest dairy and in that case you should avoid it. But usually people who are lactose intolerant know about it without being told this information due to getting sick when they eat dairy.
Dairy allergy is separate to lactose intolerance and while I'd love to know the evolutionary history of allergy (which is probably a defence against parasitic infection) I don't know much about it or examples of any particular populations it evolved in. But if you're allergic to milk that's another reason not to drink it.
Unfortunately there's a lot of pseudoscience against milk because both the vegan crowd and the paleo crowd hate on it. There are few things that these two groups agree on, but hatred of dairy products is one. And both groups will tell you "milk is for baby cows not for humans" they also both tend to ignore or be unaware of the fact that humans are highly adaptable in terms of diet, and the ability to digest dairy products has evolved in populations with a long enough history of dairy farming/herding.
I, personally, am from the British Isles and the Britain a history of dairy farming going back at least 5000 years; I can digest dairy just fine and will continue to consume dairy products
:drinker: @ dairy products and the lactase persistence gene
tl;dr: if dairy makes you sick don't eat/drink it, if it doesn't and you like it then eat/drink it0 -
Just because we do it and make it normal doesn't negate the whole weirdness of the whole thing lol. Milk is meant for babies and when they grow up practically all mammals aside from those humans with the lactose tolerance mutation lose the ability to digest lactose. So yes being able to drink milk beyond infancy isn't the norm and is weird. And from another species...yeah. If there was a story about a mother breast feeding her 13 year old son that would make the news, but a cow nope lol. I`m not saying we shouldn't have dairy because it's weird just that it's weird lol. And humans are omnivores why would it be weird to eat meat and plants?
Why is it strange? We eat all manners of different species, and all different parts of those species. We are humans, we are the apex predators, due to the fact that we've developed technology to overcome our inherent weaknesses. We eat honey, which is bee vomit. We drink milk from cows, goats, yaks, and pretty much any animal that can be milked. Buffalo mozzarella isn't called that because it's from New York, it's because it's made from buffalo milk. We eat what we can derive nourishment from, which in the case of our incredibly adaptable system, is pretty much anything we can get our hands on.
I agree but have to admit it's really strange to be using the milk of another species. No one would want to drink human milk beyond infancy but no one bats an eye about cows milk that's considered totally normal lolDairy is fine if your body produces the enzyme lactase. The very recent evolution of the ability to digest dairy products in adulthood is fascinating... this trait has evolved in populations with a long history of dairy farming/herding, e.g. Europeans, Masai (in Africa)... what's most interesting is that this trait evolved at least twice, i.e. separately in both those populations, and it may be the case that it's evolved separately in other dairy/herding populations (the alternative is that gene flow between populations resulted in the trait spreading from one population to another,but it's been demonstrated in scientific studies that the European mutation and Masai mutation for digesting dairy as adults are different and arose separately).
Anyway, whether you find that kind of thing interesting or not, the ability to digest lactose is quite closely tied to ethnic origin (although it's not 100% because of gene flow and archaic genes sticking around) so if your ancestors over the last few thousand years were dairy farmers or herders, chances are you can digest dairy just fine, and there's no reason to avoid it. If your ancestors from this time period didn't have anything to do with dairy, then there's a high probability that you can't digest dairy and in that case you should avoid it. But usually people who are lactose intolerant know about it without being told this information due to getting sick when they eat dairy.
Dairy allergy is separate to lactose intolerance and while I'd love to know the evolutionary history of allergy (which is probably a defence against parasitic infection) I don't know much about it or examples of any particular populations it evolved in. But if you're allergic to milk that's another reason not to drink it.
Unfortunately there's a lot of pseudoscience against milk because both the vegan crowd and the paleo crowd hate on it. There are few things that these two groups agree on, but hatred of dairy products is one. And both groups will tell you "milk is for baby cows not for humans" they also both tend to ignore or be unaware of the fact that humans are highly adaptable in terms of diet, and the ability to digest dairy products has evolved in populations with a long enough history of dairy farming/herding.
I, personally, am from the British Isles and the Britain a history of dairy farming going back at least 5000 years; I can digest dairy just fine and will continue to consume dairy products
:drinker: @ dairy products and the lactase persistence gene
tl;dr: if dairy makes you sick don't eat/drink it, if it doesn't and you like it then eat/drink it0 -
They're all gross.How does eating the flesh, the unborn embryos or the seeds of another species ok but milk is out of the question?
Explain that logic to me, please!0 -
They're all gross.How does eating the flesh, the unborn embryos or the seeds of another species ok but milk is out of the question?
Explain that logic to me, please!
You would refuse to eat sunflower seeds because that's "gross"?0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.9K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.5K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions