Does my morning coffee count
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Let's break this down.
What's in coffee:
99.5% water
.5 percent water soluble coffee bits
Last I checked, that .5% didn't magically change the chemical composition of H20 to HCl.
Yes, it's water. You don't even need to take into account the diuretic effect, which is very, very small when talking about 1 cup of coffee.0 -
Some folks here are being deliberately obtuse. Water intake actually plays a role in weight loss. Do your own research if you don't believe me. There is a ton of research on the benefits of drinking water when dieting. Here's the thing...you don't want to drink water so you sneak around to find a way not to. Not my problem. Coffee is not water regardless of how you log it. You don't want to log the calories of a beverage containing water but isn't water? Not my problem. I could go on but it is a waste of my time because quite frankly you are looking for a quick fix where you lose the weight yet make no changes. So carry on. When your weight refuses to budge because you don't want to put the required effort in, we will be seeing you back in the forums upset because you aren't losing. Again, not my problem.
Sometimes when we think we are hungry, we are really just thirsty. So yeah, having a drink of water can quench the thirst, so then we don't eat, so then we lose weight faster. However, there is nothing magical about the water in that. Almost any other non or very low calorie drink would do the same. Yes, even coffee. [High calorie drinks will also hydrate you, but since we are talking weight loss, you probably do want to limit them. And log them when you do drink them!]
Water hydrates us, which is good for overall health. Some foods can also hydrate us. Virtually every non-alcoholic beverage can also hydrate us. Yes, even coffee.
Peeing, sweating etc are the body's natural ways of removing unwanted products from the body. Obviously, this is good. To pee regularly, you need to be hydrated. Anything you drink (or eat) that hydrates you can be counted (if you want to!). Yes, even coffee.
The point of the water counter on here, as far as I can tell, is to help you stay properly hydrated.
I don't know of any other roles water plays in weight loss. Not meaning to be obtuse, but please do inform me of the properties that only regular tap water has that other hydrating drinks do not have.
Also, as a side point: water (as in from the tap, or a bottle) also contains electrolytes (salts, minerals etc). Yeah, there is "stuff" in your water! We actually need these. Although if you drink too much too fast, it will strip electrolytes from the body. This can kill you. Totally pure water (de-ionized, distilled and reverse osmosed) has no electrolytes, and will kill you faster. Plus, it doesn't taste good. Don't drink pure water!0 -
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.0 -
Ah. Another one. So it IS illegal to track the calories in the food diary AND click the water ticker. I better watch out for the MFP Police. This is serious.
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.0 -
Some folks here are being deliberately obtuse. Water intake actually plays a role in weight loss. Do your own research if you don't believe me. There is a ton of research on the benefits of drinking water when dieting. Here's the thing...you don't want to drink water so you sneak around to find a way not to. Not my problem. Coffee is not water regardless of how you log it. You don't want to log the calories of a beverage containing water but isn't water? Not my problem. I could go on but it is a waste of my time because quite frankly you are looking for a quick fix where you lose the weight yet make no changes. So carry on. When your weight refuses to budge because you don't want to put the required effort in, we will be seeing you back in the forums upset because you aren't losing. Again, not my problem.
Per bolded, please look inward.0 -
Some folks here are being deliberately obtuse. Water intake actually plays a role in weight loss. Do your own research if you don't believe me. There is a ton of research on the benefits of drinking water when dieting. Here's the thing...you don't want to drink water so you sneak around to find a way not to. Not my problem. Coffee is not water regardless of how you log it. You don't want to log the calories of a beverage containing water but isn't water? Not my problem. I could go on but it is a waste of my time because quite frankly you are looking for a quick fix where you lose the weight yet make no changes. So carry on. When your weight refuses to budge because you don't want to put the required effort in, we will be seeing you back in the forums upset because you aren't losing. Again, not my problem.
Sometimes when we think we are hungry, we are really just thirsty. So yeah, having a drink of water can quench the thirst, so then we don't eat, so then we lose weight faster. However, there is nothing magical about the water in that. Almost any other non or very low calorie drink would do the same. Yes, even coffee. [High calorie drinks will also hydrate you, but since we are talking weight loss, you probably do want to limit them. And log them when you do drink them!]
Water hydrates us, which is good for overall health. Some foods can also hydrate us. Virtually every non-alcoholic beverage can also hydrate us. Yes, even coffee.
Peeing, sweating etc are the body's natural ways of removing unwanted products from the body. Obviously, this is good. To pee regularly, you need to be hydrated. Anything you drink (or eat) that hydrates you can be counted (if you want to!). Yes, even coffee.
The point of the water counter on here, as far as I can tell, is to help you stay properly hydrated.
I don't know of any other roles water plays in weight loss. Not meaning to be obtuse, but please do inform me of the properties that only regular tap water has that other hydrating drinks do not have.
Also, as a side point: water (as in from the tap, or a bottle) also contains electrolytes (salts, minerals etc). Yeah, there is "stuff" in your water! We actually need these. Although if you drink too much too fast, it will strip electrolytes from the body. This can kill you. Totally pure water (de-ionized, distilled and reverse osmosed) has no electrolytes, and will kill you faster. Plus, it doesn't taste good. Don't drink pure water!
There are probably only a handful of folks in these forums that when I come across their post, I pay attention. You sir, are one of them.0 -
There are probably only a handful of folks in these forums that when I come across their post, I pay attention. You sir, are one of them.
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Ah. Another one. So it IS illegal to track the calories in the food diary AND click the water ticker. I better watch out for the MFP Police. This is serious.
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.
16 oz. water added to my protein shake? *click* *click*
32 oz. Diet Dr Pepper *click* *click* *click* *click*
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I was counting beer as water, and water as beer. So on Saturday, I underestimated my calories overestimated my hydration.
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Ah. Another one. So it IS illegal to track the calories in the food diary AND click the water ticker. I better watch out for the MFP Police. This is serious.
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.
ahh can't help yourself. The only policeing going on is you! some people are way to serious and realy need to learn how to chill out! go have a beer!0 -
Actually, all beverages can contribute to your fluid requirement – like coffee, tea, fruit juice, broth, vegetable juice, sports drinks and low fat milk – since they’re primarily water. So if, like my client, you just can’t face drinking water, these “water alternatives” still count.
http://www.discovergoodnutrition.com/2012/09/plain-water-get-your-8-glasses-a-day/
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I don't even log my water. Never have, never will. The empty bottles scattered around my desk by the end of the day (plus the color of my pee) tell me whether I'm drinking enough.0
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But... but... you're doing it wrong!I don't even log my water. Never have, never will. The empty bottles scattered around my desk by the end of the day (plus the color of my pee) tell me whether I'm drinking enough.0 -
But... but... you're doing it wrong!I don't even log my water. Never have, never will. The empty bottles scattered around my desk by the end of the day (plus the color of my pee) tell me whether I'm drinking enough.
Drinking intuitively....the horror! :laugh: Too bad I can't trust myself to eat that way.0 -
Does all that dieting/exercising make people cranky? why so many angry posts, not just this forum, pretty much any forum about weight loss...0
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It's called "hangry", and it's a thing. Fo real real.Does all that dieting/exercising make people cranky? why so many angry posts, not just this forum, pretty much any forum about weight loss...0 -
It's called "hangry", and it's a thing. Fo real real.Does all that dieting/exercising make people cranky? why so many angry posts, not just this forum, pretty much any forum about weight loss...
mark the new word I learned. Awesome~0 -
Water does not cease to be water just because you filter it through coffee. Add creamer and sugar, though, and you'd better be sure to log it.0
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It's called "hangry", and it's a thing. Fo real real.Does all that dieting/exercising make people cranky? why so many angry posts, not just this forum, pretty much any forum about weight loss...
Yep.. some very serious postings going on. They need some cals i think to calm down.
Love the word "hangry" lol might use it in the future0 -
Water does not cease to be water just because you filter it through coffee. Add creamer and sugar, though, and you'd better be sure to log it.
Absolutely. Whether it's only a small amount, each calorie counts I say! If you have 5 cups of coffee or tea a day it will add up.0 -
Water does not cease to be water just because you filter it through coffee. Add creamer and sugar, though, and you'd better be sure to log it.
Absolutely. Whether it's only a small amount, each calorie counts I say! If you have 5 cups of coffee or tea a day it will add up.
It's a mind set. A coffee has 2 calories in 8 oz and really that 2 calories is not going to make or break losing weight BUT that 2 calories there then times it by 5 through the day for 10 calories, add in the 15 calorie taste test from a dish you are making, another 10 for a piece of cookie dough popped in your mouth, 5 extra calories from not weighing the cheese, 15 calories from your flaxseed oil capsule, and over the course of that day you've added 55 calories. Again, 40 calories isn't a huge deal unless it is done on a consistent basis and that 55 calories grows to 80 or more. Combine this little bit of extra calories consumed with the problem of thinking you are burning more than what your really are, and you have the perfect recipe to fail at losing weight. If you want to lose weight using the calorie logging method, it is important to log ALL calories from EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth. This ensures you are creating the calorie deficit you think you are for losing weight and not unintentionally maintaining or even creating a calorie surplus. This is one reason why folks come on the forums with the 'I'm doing everything right but am not losing'.0 -
None of the above is a good reason for coffee not counting toward hydration.Water does not cease to be water just because you filter it through coffee. Add creamer and sugar, though, and you'd better be sure to log it.
Absolutely. Whether it's only a small amount, each calorie counts I say! If you have 5 cups of coffee or tea a day it will add up.
It's a mind set. A coffee has 2 calories in 8 oz and really that 2 calories is not going to make or break losing weight BUT that 2 calories there then times it by 5 through the day for 10 calories, add in the 15 calorie taste test from a dish you are making, another 10 for a piece of cookie dough popped in your mouth, 5 extra calories from not weighing the cheese, 15 calories from your flaxseed oil capsule, and over the course of that day you've added 55 calories. Again, 40 calories isn't a huge deal unless it is done on a consistent basis and that 55 calories grows to 80 or more. Combine this little bit of extra calories consumed with the problem of thinking you are burning more than what your really are, and you have the perfect recipe to fail at losing weight. If you want to lose weight using the calorie logging method, it is important to log ALL calories from EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth. This ensures you are creating the calorie deficit you think you are for losing weight and not unintentionally maintaining or even creating a calorie surplus. This is one reason why folks come on the forums with the 'I'm doing everything right but am not losing'.0 -
Water does not cease to be water just because you filter it through coffee. Add creamer and sugar, though, and you'd better be sure to log it.
Absolutely. Whether it's only a small amount, each calorie counts I say! If you have 5 cups of coffee or tea a day it will add up.
It's a mind set. A coffee has 2 calories in 8 oz and really that 2 calories is not going to make or break losing weight BUT that 2 calories there then times it by 5 through the day for 10 calories, add in the 15 calorie taste test from a dish you are making, another 10 for a piece of cookie dough popped in your mouth, 5 extra calories from not weighing the cheese, 15 calories from your flaxseed oil capsule, and over the course of that day you've added 55 calories. Again, 40 calories isn't a huge deal unless it is done on a consistent basis and that 55 calories grows to 80 or more. Combine this little bit of extra calories consumed with the problem of thinking you are burning more than what your really are, and you have the perfect recipe to fail at losing weight. If you want to lose weight using the calorie logging method, it is important to log ALL calories from EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth. This ensures you are creating the calorie deficit you think you are for losing weight and not unintentionally maintaining or even creating a calorie surplus. This is one reason why folks come on the forums with the 'I'm doing everything right but am not losing'.
I like how 10 calories from coffee magically became 55 calories from cookie dough and cheese, and yet it still has nothing at all to do with whether coffee counts as water.0 -
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No point not adding everything in..IMF you want to be honest with yourself you need to add your night out wreckage. If I go out you will serf I had a binge. But the hangovers are not worth it. I like the idea of getting up feeling good, and heading outside for a walk or hitting the gym.
Each to their own if they log or not their drinks, their binges etc. Personally,I'd rather log . No hiding anything here.0 -
I'm making a point with sarcasm and humor.
Ah. Another one. So it IS illegal to track the calories in the food diary AND click the water ticker. I better watch out for the MFP Police. This is serious.
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.
ahh can't help yourself. The only policeing going on is you! some people are way to serious and realy need to learn how to chill out! go have a beer!
You, on the other hand, seem a bit obsessed with me. So, how YOU doin'?0 -
I don't count it is water. Caffeine is a diuretic and a stimulant and the point of tracking water is for hydration purposes, so I think I am better off not counting it as water.
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Bwhaha...definitely not. You can dream
I'm making a point with sarcasm and humor.
Ah. Another one. So it IS illegal to track the calories in the food diary AND click the water ticker. I better watch out for the MFP Police. This is serious.
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.
ahh can't help yourself. The only policeing going on is you! some people are way to serious and realy need to learn how to chill out! go have a beer!
You, on the other hand, seem a bit obsessed with me. So, how YOU doin'?
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Yeah, coffee has water... but so does fruit. Do you log your orange or apple as water intake? Personally, if a beverage has calories and macros, it's logged as a food or in my 'non-water beverages' category. The only things I count as water for the purposes of hydration are actual water and unsweetened, caffeine free hot tea. If I add honey or agave to my tea, I log it in my beverage category.
But, to each their own.0 -
Your post says no but your need to comment on everything I say says yes.
Bwhaha...definitely not. You can dream
I'm making a point with sarcasm and humor.
Ah. Another one. So it IS illegal to track the calories in the food diary AND click the water ticker. I better watch out for the MFP Police. This is serious.
This^I don't count it as my water. Since coffee has calories, I log it with my food.
Anything with calories, no matter how small seemingly, I track as food.
ahh can't help yourself. The only policeing going on is you! some people are way to serious and realy need to learn how to chill out! go have a beer!
You, on the other hand, seem a bit obsessed with me. So, how YOU doin'?
However, even if you were the right gender, your inability to distinguish obvious sarcasm would render you entirely unattractive.0
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