Giving your body no choice but to burn fat daily

tennisdude2004

I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"

The r word!!!! Bye bye hope the door doesn't kick you in the *kitten*

Yep that's low - retard is not a nice word to be chucking around.

Bye, bye OP tell your story walking!

sathor

I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"

Research? Screw that, I had to do enough of that for my Masters degree as it is... Then again, 30 seconds to find that one of the guidlines is 0.8 Grams / LB in weight, one could surmise the possibility that you misread that, and though it was just 8 grams each day...

_Zardoz_

i build muscle and iam defenately at a deficit

No you don't unless you are some medical miracle. What is happening is you are losing fat and your muscles are more pronounced. Just think of it just the word 'deficit' and what it means. It means your intake is less than your body needs so in other words there is not the building blocks there to build anything.

I feel sorry for the OP as sometimes these forms can be brutal. Specifically the Animal protein leeching calcium from bones that comes from a study done a while ago and as a Vegan I would love if it was true but it's not. There has been so much to refute that claim it's just a shame the Veggie organisations keep on about it and use that flawed science for justification.

Sometimes as members of these forums we need to take a step back and just think of the intent of the post

lemonsnowdrop

This thread is like Christmas on MFP.

TR0berts

*flips middle finger... tosses joint*

I'm out ****kkkkkers!

And to those select reasonable responses, thanks for trying to help me, but this days of our lives crap is just too much for me. Reminds me too much of high school.

Your profile says you're 32. I have a hard time believing that.

Also, didn't you say you were going to leave this thread alone?

Several times, now. My guess? She'll be back. Or she'll start a "MFP Mean People" thread. Maybe both.

ninerbuff

i build muscle and iam defenately at a deficit :0 by 400-700 and loosing pounds idk much about (surplus) an amount of something left over when requirements have been met; an excess of production or supply over demand. more than what is needed or used; excess. <

Are you a returning athlete after a long layoff, a total newbie to weight lifting or an obese person doing strength training? If not, then you're more than likely not building muscle. Again, building muscle means adding tissue. That means more energy is needed than usual to accomplish this. Which is why a surplus is needed. Science trumps anecdotes.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

dmenchac

The saddest part of this thread is that half of us who posted will most likely get some type of warning/strike for breaking some sort of community guideline.


Got my second strike for calling someone lazy a few days ago -_- (they posted yet another thread on starvation mode)

frankphi

I totally agree.
I have lost 60 pounds in the past year using MyFitnessPal. I was motivated after learning I had four herniated discs and diabetes with three times the healthy amount of sugar in my blood.
A dietician recommended the MyFitnessPal app.
Like you, I hate cardio but I have been walking on our treadmill 3-5 times a week for at least 20 minutes and usually 30 minutes.
I keep strict watch of my caloric intake (ice cream is my cheat food but I count those calories, too) and each week I have come in at least 100 calories under my goal.
I use the sedentary setting (I am a newspaper reporter) with a goal of losing 2 pounds per week.
My family doctor asked me when I started if I wanted to go on disability and he could get me on given by physical condition. He also said if I lost 80 pounds I would dramatically reduce my risk of heart attack and stroke.
That was the wake up call I needed.
I no longer need my Metphormin that I was taking daily and I monitor my blood sugar and weight. My blood sugar stays between 98 and 120 (even if I cheat.) I want to lose another 60 pounds and get down to 160, which, from what I understand, would be my ideal weight.

Pirate_chick

_Pseudonymous_

I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"

My sentiments exactly!
The r word!!!! Bye bye hope the door doesn't kick you in the *kitten*

Yep that's low - retard is not a nice word to be chucking around.

Bye, bye OP tell your story walking!

PikaKnight

*forehead slap* It's proven we only need 8 grams of protein a day which is in 2 tablespoons of peanut butter. But I'm not arguing with ignorance... it only proves to be mind numbingly annoying.

Wait..what? 8 grams? Okay, seriously. Studies are needed for this load of shenanigans.

devil_in_a_blue_dress

This thread is like Christmas on MFP.

It was like my birthday and Christmas on the same day.

DeterminedFee201426

i build muscle and iam defenately at a deficit :0 by 400-700 and loosing pounds idk much about surplus an amount of something left over when requirements have been met; an excess of production or supply over demand. more than what is needed or used; excess. but iam not on it

You can't build something out of nothing. Your body is currently using the protein you eat as fuel. This is good, because it means it can spare your muscles while you are in a deficit. Otherwise it would be breaking them down as well.

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12by311

OP, please read = http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1088600-dear-mean-people-of-mfp

Also, IF you had said "here's what I'm doing to lose weight" on the title I don't think it would have gotten NEAR the backlash. But you said this stuff is proven fact...and...it's just not.

Zaftique

You know, I didn't start losing very consistently until I starting listening to some of these "trolls" on here and reading and taking their advice supported by science.

^^ This. OP, consider the "trolls'" (excellent) points. They are not doing it to bring you down, but to correct your misunderstanding of basic health and nutrition. Be humble and try to admit you might be wrong...

Ditto. After reading a lot of the same "trollish" points in post after post, I decided to look into the research being quoted, and made changes to my diet/routine accordingly. So far it's worked pretty well.

k_nicole87

i build muscle and iam defenately at a deficit :0 by 400-700 and loosing pounds idk much about (surplus) an amount of something left over when requirements have been met; an excess of production or supply over demand. more than what is needed or used; excess. <

Are you a returning athlete after a long layoff, a total newbie to weight lifting or an obese person doing strength training? If not, then you're more than likely not building muscle. Again, building muscle means adding tissue. That means more energy is needed than usual to accomplish this. Which is why a surplus is needed. Science trumps anecdotes.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

Maybe she meant "strengthening" muscle?

Aaron_K123

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php

Did you even read these links yourself?

For example here is the pubmed study you posted to defend the idea that protein is bad somehow:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

In the very first couple of sentences, apparently as far as you got, it says this: "Both dietary calcium and vitamin D are undoubtedly beneficial to skeletal health. In contrast, despite intense investigation, the impact of dietary protein on calcium metabolism and bone balance remains controversial. "

but then its conclusions is this:

Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.

That is the article that YOU posted as a citation. Did you read it?

_Pseudonymous_

The saddest part of this thread is that half of us who posted will most likely get some type of warning/strike for breaking some sort of community guideline.


Got my second strike for calling someone lazy a few days ago -_- (they posted yet another thread on starvation mode)

I Got my second strike for Tell a person who had either deactoed or had been banned 3 times in a week that if they wanted better success and helpful encouragement then they should get some friends on MFP and post in her blog or to them and not use the Forums as her own personal diary. That was my strike 2... Hopefully I don't get my final strike for pointing out the disrespectful and derogatory use of the word "Retard"

*Fingers crossed*

manicautumn

*forehead slap* It's proven we only need 8 grams of protein a day which is in 2 tablespoons of peanut butter. But I'm not arguing with ignorance... it only proves to be mind numbingly annoying.

Wait. So... I need as much protein as a 5'0 woman as my 6'0 boyfriend regardless of goal and other stats. Good to know

sathor

I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"

you burn like 50 calories an hour in a hot tub

and good, we dont need any more people propagating bull$hit on here

yeah, but you technically burn calories justting sitting on your butt too. http://lamb.cc/calories-burned-calculator/ According to this site, just sleeping, a 200# person burns 181 Calories an hour.

tmpecus78

Also my friend who is in medical school showed me in one of his medical books that a hot tub (being that it's hot) will work the cardiovascular system

WOW! :huh: :noway:

Urban_Princess

I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"

I'm just worried what will happen when you go into maintenance....

devil_in_a_blue_dress

You know what this thread needs?

PikaKnight

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php

Oh . here are the studies but I don't think you read them.

Example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

RECENT FINDINGS:
Many epidemiological studies have found a significant positive relationship between protein intake and bone mass or density. Similarly, isotopic studies in humans have also demonstrated greater calcium retention and absorption by individuals consuming high-protein diets, particularly when the calcium content of the diet was limiting. High-protein intake may positively impact bone health by several mechanisms, including calcium absorption, stimulation of the secretion of insulin-like growth factor-1, and enhancement of lean body mass. The concept that an increase in dietary protein induces a large enough shift in systemic pH to increase osteoclastic bone resorption seems untenable.

SUMMARY:
Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.


So....tl;dr - YOU IS WRONG!


ETA: Damn. Aaron beat me to it with the same study too.

ziztur

*flips middle finger... tosses joint*

I'm out ****kkkkkers!

And to those select reasonable responses, thanks for trying to help me, but this days of our lives crap is just too much for me. Reminds me too much of high school.

My irony meter just asploded.

OP, you're the one creating "days of our lives crap".

You posted some "advice", your methods were questioned. You called people escalating names and got increasingly agitated.

If you post some claim, the onus is on you to prove it when asked for proof - not on the readers to go find the proof for you. Instead, you made backhanded, sarcastic jabs and called people names, or provided evidence that either directly contradicted your claims or were from a website trying to sell you something.

The person creating the drama is you, and I'm sorry you can't see that.

audreanna_brown

This is what I have done to turn myself into a fat burning machine!

1. Nutrition.

When you starve your body of the nutrients it needs it goes into starvation mode. You can be eating like a king yet still starve your body of the nutrients it needs to sustain itself. I suggest adding fruits and vegetables to your daily diet. Fruits should be kept more of a energizing type snack or as a breakfast (which is when lots of us need energy). Vegetables should be at least half of one of your daily meals, but better if it's in two meals. Also lower your animal meat consumption. It's medically proven we ingest too much protein in our diets and it has lead to some awful diseases, but at the very least it contains animal fat. So just think of it as lowering your fat intake.

2. Calorie intake

We hear so much flip flop about the importance of calories, but I would just like to say calorie intake is very important. A woman can take in just 10 extra calories a day and gain a pound a year. This means a 5 lbs a year gain is from eating 50 extra calories a day--which is incredibly easy to do with most diets. An average person needs approx 2,000 calories a day. If you want to promote fat burning, you must take in less calories than what your body needs. If you take in too little of calories, you place your body in starvation mode. There are caloric intake charts and generators all over the internet that will help you figure out what your daily calorie intake should be (https://www.exercise.com/tools/bmr-calculator). Personally I have been easy on myself and gave myself a 1,200 to 1,850 calorie intake limit. I have to take in more than 1,200 but no more than 1,850. This way I am not storing fat and I am forcing my body to burn fat to meet it's caloric needs.

3. Build Muscle

Fat is food for muscles. The more muscle you build, the more your calorie intake needs will be. So now all of a sudden a 2,000 calorie need is more like 2,300 but you keep your intake to under 2,000, you will increase your daily fat burning.

4. Cardio

I hate cardio more than anything! but no one can deny it's fat burning abilities. Adding some cardio a few times a week will also promote extra fat burning, but will not burn fat daily unless performed daily. It is not needed to see results, but will add to the results. If you have a hot tub, try at least sitting in that as often as possible for some light cardio.

Thank you for sharing what is working for you. I, myself, appreciate anyone who is willing to share their insight into what has helped them get healthier. Good luck on the rest of your journey. God bless.

nosebag1212

lmao @ starvation mode, congrats you broke the first law of thermodynamics brb nobel prize

****ing retard

k_nicole87

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php

Oh . here are the studies but I don't think you read them.

Example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

RECENT FINDINGS:
Many epidemiological studies have found a significant positive relationship between protein intake and bone mass or density. Similarly, isotopic studies in humans have also demonstrated greater calcium retention and absorption by individuals consuming high-protein diets, particularly when the calcium content of the diet was limiting. High-protein intake may positively impact bone health by several mechanisms, including calcium absorption, stimulation of the secretion of insulin-like growth factor-1, and enhancement of lean body mass. The concept that an increase in dietary protein induces a large enough shift in systemic pH to increase osteoclastic bone resorption seems untenable.

SUMMARY:
Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein.


So....tl;dr - YOU IS WRONG!


ETA: Damn. Aaron beat me to it with the same study too.

My ADD didn't allow me to read all that. Thanks for summarizing at the bottom.

PRMinx

lmao @ starvation mode, congrats you broke the first law of thermodynamics brb nobel prize

****ing retard

There's no need to use the r-word. Again.

lemonsnowdrop

lmao @ starvation mode, congrats you broke the first law of thermodynamics brb nobel prize

****ing retard

Umm, yeah, you're not much better than the OP with all that.