Clean Eating

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  • jjplato
    jjplato Posts: 155 Member
    Quite the storm you've created OP!

    Personally I'm all for clean eating, I often eat chocolate while I'm vaccuming.

    It sure is!
    Debate - day 5.

    Someone mentioned I should bring up Dr. Oz next time. :)
    Also, I may make a thread about sugar consumption when all the dies down.
    LOL

    If you *really* want to see people's keyboards burst into flames, post something like "I heard that a calorie isn't a calorie", or "What are the best negative-calorie foods?", or "Technically speaking, cats aren't mammals"....

    Some calories are equal to 4.18400 joules. Other more special calories are equal to 4.18401 joules.

    See what I mean? You can't make this stuff up! Hey, Yagisama -- I read that it's really important that you eat your first meal within 30 minutes of getting up in the morning, because that "revs your metabolism" for the rest of the day. What are your thoughts?

    Ahh, I should get back to work!
  • KMasz
    KMasz Posts: 2,714 Member
    Good for you! I think Clean Eating is the way to go. Benefits of clean eating is that it can drastically reduce or eliminate cravings. Clean eating will change your health and hopefully your weight. I disagree that it is all calorie counting. I eat weight more calories than I am supposed to but I eat very clean and healthy and I lose half a pound a day.

    I hope you meant to say a half a pound a week! a half a pound a day would be scary and unhealthy!
  • Cycle4Life99
    Cycle4Life99 Posts: 86
    Just know that clean eating in and of itself does not cause weight loss. You have to eat less calories then you burn to lose weight. You can do that eating processed foods or not.

    ^^ This. You can eat the most organic and natural foods but still gain weight. Also, I hate the term clean eating. We don't eat dirty foods. Why not call it like it is, wholesome eating.
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 595 Member
    Quite the storm you've created OP!

    Personally I'm all for clean eating, I often eat chocolate while I'm vaccuming.

    It sure is!
    Debate - day 5.

    Someone mentioned I should bring up Dr. Oz next time. :)
    Also, I may make a thread about sugar consumption when all the dies down.
    LOL

    If you *really* want to see people's keyboards burst into flames, post something like "I heard that a calorie isn't a calorie", or "What are the best negative-calorie foods?", or "Technically speaking, cats aren't mammals"....

    Some calories are equal to 4.18400 joules. Other more special calories are equal to 4.18401 joules.

    See what I mean? You can't make this stuff up! Hey, Yagisama -- I read that it's really important that you eat your first meal within 30 minutes of getting up in the morning, because that "revs your metabolism" for the rest of the day. What are your thoughts?

    Ahh, I should get back to work!

    I think that's correct to an extent. Unfortunately, most people forget that you need to hold back a little "NOS" for the end of the day for that final boost to win the race. I bring to your attention, one of the "Fast and Furious" movies where the rookie used his NOS way too early for it to do any good.

    That's a good analogy for the first meal timing requirement. You want to keep some of that breakfast for later on and eat it at dinner so you can rev your metabolism one last time before the day is over.
  • lovestoskiandsurf
    lovestoskiandsurf Posts: 1 Member
    I think there's truth in a lot of what has been said. Less calories will help you lose weight. It's also true that certain foods take more calories to burn in your system. It's true that exercise will increase your metabolism and help you burn more calories. There's also logic to having one higher calorie day each week so that your weight loss doesn't stagnate.

    Sugar and high glycemic foods are inflammatory and should be mostly avoided. Corn, flour, white rice, potatoes, bread, pasta, etc. A period of complete removal of these foods will help you to lose the cravings for these foods. High doses of Niacin (1G x 3/day) taken with a B-complex and Vit C (1G x 3/day) for 2-3 weeks will really help with sugar cravings.

    You have to do what works for you - and what will work for someone needing to lose 10 pounds will be different than someone needing to lose 50 pounds. For me, I lose weight (and fat) with long cardio (running/walking 4-6 miles/ 5 days per week) and 2 days of weight training, decreasing calories and avoiding sugar and HG foods. I also eat protein with EVERY meal. I like having to log all the food i eat - if I want to cheat (and I allow myself one per day) - first I put in the food, and then I see if it will put me over my "goal" calories for the day. Good luck!
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 595 Member
    Good for you! I think Clean Eating is the way to go. Benefits of clean eating is that it can drastically reduce or eliminate cravings. Clean eating will change your health and hopefully your weight. I disagree that it is all calorie counting. I eat weight more calories than I am supposed to but I eat very clean and healthy and I lose half a pound a day.

    I hope you meant to say a half a pound a week! a half a pound a day would be scary and unhealthy!

    As if. We're talking about clean eating. NOT scary and unhealthy eating! :explode:
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,274 Member
    I think there's truth in a lot of what has been said. Less calories will help you lose weight. It's also true that certain foods take more calories to burn in your system. It's true that exercise will increase your metabolism and help you burn more calories. There's also logic to having one higher calorie day each week so that your weight loss doesn't stagnate.

    Sugar and high glycemic foods are inflammatory and should be mostly avoided. Corn, flour, white rice, potatoes, bread, pasta, etc. A period of complete removal of these foods will help you to lose the cravings for these foods. High doses of Niacin (1G x 3/day) taken with a B-complex and Vit C (1G x 3/day) for 2-3 weeks will really help with sugar cravings.

    Other than your first 2 sentences: "less calories will help you lose weight" ,and "exercise will help you burn calories', rest is nonsense.
    There is no logic to having a weekly higher calorie day to stop weight loss stagnating (although if you want a higher day and it fits within weekly calories, fine) - but your weight loss wont stagnate if you have every day the same number of calories either.

    and there is no need to avoid corn, flour, rice etc or to take supplements unless you have an individual medical reason to do so.

    Not necessary from a weight loss perspective.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    I think there's truth in a lot of what has been said. Less calories will help you lose weight. It's also true that certain foods take more calories to burn in your system. It's true that exercise will increase your metabolism and help you burn more calories. There's also logic to having one higher calorie day each week so that your weight loss doesn't stagnate.

    Sugar and high glycemic foods are inflammatory and should be mostly avoided. Corn, flour, white rice, potatoes, bread, pasta, etc. A period of complete removal of these foods will help you to lose the cravings for these foods. High doses of Niacin (1G x 3/day) taken with a B-complex and Vit C (1G x 3/day) for 2-3 weeks will really help with sugar cravings.

    Other than your first 2 sentences: "less calories will help you lose weight" ,and "exercise will help you burn calories', rest is nonsense.
    There is no logic to having a weekly higher calorie day to stop weight loss stagnating (although if you want a higher day and it fits within weekly calories, fine) - but your weight loss wont stagnate if you have every day the same number of calories either.

    and there is no need to avoid corn, flour, rice etc or to take supplements unless you have an individual medical reason to do so.

    Not necessary from a weight loss perspective.

    Agreed, from a weight loss point of view you can eat whatever you want as long as you are eating in a deficit.
  • lukester19
    lukester19 Posts: 72 Member
    I just get in my lbm in protein and fill in the rest. Otherwise I get to OCD lol.
  • APU1972
    APU1972 Posts: 43 Member
    Hi misskelly,

    Agree with clean eating, but the shock when you scan barcodes using the MFP app usually makes me think before i eat.

    What im using is if it grows, falls, runs, flies or swims i eat and enjoy.

    So go natural all the way!!!

    Hope you get to where your going.
  • jjplato
    jjplato Posts: 155 Member
    and there is no need to avoid corn, flour, rice etc or to take supplements unless you have an individual medical reason to do so.

    Not necessary from a weight loss perspective.

    I don't think she said from a weight loss perspective. She said high-GI carbs cause inflammation, and there's evidence to support this: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1188.full

    "Conclusions:The findings suggest that high-normal physiologic increases in blood glucose after meals aggravate inflammatory processes in lean, young adults. This mechanism may help to explain relations between carbohydrates, glycemic index, and the risk of chronic disease."
  • lukester19
    lukester19 Posts: 72 Member
    and there is no need to avoid corn, flour, rice etc or to take supplements unless you have an individual medical reason to do so.

    Not necessary from a weight loss perspective.

    I don't think she said from a weight loss perspective. She said high-GI carbs cause inflammation, and there's evidence to support this: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1188.full

    "Conclusions:The findings suggest that high-normal physiologic increases in blood glucose after meals aggravate inflammatory processes in lean, young adults. This mechanism may help to explain relations between carbohydrates, glycemic index, and the risk of chronic disease."

    I think she should listen to her body. If it doesn't agree with her, don't eat it. Some people can not eat upwards of 12-20 foods. They then show research and studies to others to show them what to eat. Another person will give a contradictory opinion and tout studies. Glycemic index also changes when combining foods but tell a professional cyclist that and he says he needs the carbs and simple sugars. It's all a matter of perspective.
  • CharloK2
    CharloK2 Posts: 7
    Lots of great responses here. Just wanted to add that from what I've researched, there is really no such thing as "clean" foods. There is nutrient value "considerations" however (e.g. micronutrients, vitamins, etc) and how they make you feel and help with overall physiological functions in the body. I used to think if you trained, you had to eat "clean" foods. With modern research studies that is proving not to be true. Its ultimately calories in/out, but choosing healthy food choices (e.g. fruits/veggies/etc) has some significant play in your overall health/nutrition and making you feel better (e.g. energy balance). IIFYM's help the diet be more of a lifestyle and sustainable over long term. I recommend to pick a reputable resource(s) and do some research online, there are people that dedicate their lives to doing nutrition (academic) studies that are far more qualified than the laymen person. Best of luck to you! =)
  • jjplato
    jjplato Posts: 155 Member
    I think she should listen to her body. If it doesn't agree with her, don't eat it. Some people can not eat upwards of 12-20 foods. They then show research and studies to others to show them what to eat. Another person will give a contradictory opinion and tout studies. Glycemic index also changes when combining foods but tell a professional cyclist that and he says he needs the carbs and simple sugars. It's all a matter of perspective.

    I don't disagree. I eat high-GI carbs pre- and post-workout. I'm pointing out that the poster was making a comment about inflammation, not weight loss.

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