Family Stick People on vehicles

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  • sillygoosie
    sillygoosie Posts: 1,109 Member
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    So glad I live my life without imagining pedophiles and murderers constantly lurking around me. And I live in a city!

    This. My gun toting, 12 character password using brother thinks I'm crazy because I don't spend my life worrying about bad guys all the time. I refuse to live my life in fear of ANYTHING.

    Stick figure families are stupid but I'm sure people think all my bicycle stickers are stupid too. Oh crap! Now people know what bike shop I frequent and they'll wait for me there...
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
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    Bahahaha! I haven't heard that term in a couple years! Ahhh, the military...
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
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    Yeah, I think you have to find a balance between living in fear and not being stupid.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
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    Yeah, I think you have to find a balance between living in fear and not being stupid.

    Yeah, I agree.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    Umm... no. Not really.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
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    I don't particularly like the stick family stickers.

    I also don't think it puts a person at risk. Pedophiles choose kids that they are attracted to, have access to, are vulnerable to them in some way (because they become the step parent in an already troubled family for example), and are able to keep quiet (because of the type of power they have over the child due to the relationship and being in a role of "trust" to a child that is young and just learning as an example, it provides them with an ability to "trap" the child in various ways that they can escalate with time). And just from my own experience, most often there are people overlooking what is happening.

    It's something I am aware of in certain ways because of my own experiences. But, I don't live in fear. And my kids play outdoors and have freedoms and have independence. And it's not something I am suspicious of.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    There was an episode of Dexter where the Trinity Killer used the stick figures w/names on the back of a family's vehicle to then lure the little boy (age 10) to him by telling him he was a cop and his parents had been in an accident (mentioned parents by name). The boy then asked about his sister and Trinity assured him that she was in the car waiting for him (also mentioned sister by name). The boy then followed him and almost ended up dead (saved by Dexter).

    That scene from Dexter, though fictional, could easily play out in reality and is exactly why these stick figure stickers need to go away. That and they are just annoying. No one really cares about your stick figure family.

    And this scene could have played out any number of other ways. Those people that we really fear who actually do this - they are really, really good. Being a smooth talker is a very powerful tool. The name is an easy give, but if they don't have that, it doesn't mean they will just give up. I guarantee Trinity would have found another way.
    Plus, does no one call their child by name in public?

    Is there a risk from strangers - absolutely. As pointed out a few times in this thread, we worry about things like stickers on a car when just as much or more information is available a ton of other ways. But the bigger risk are people who already know all this information anyway.

    My kids and I use codewords in public.

    Just kidding.

    But, yeah, I got told today (again) that I should not run outside in the dark because it is not safe. I know what I should have done was to pull up the stats on my iphone and demonstrate that, at my age, being alone inside my own house with a neighbor (who knows my name) is probably the highest risk activity I can engage in. However, I feigned ignorance about what I was being told and stated that I wear reflective gear on my runs.
  • RunFarLiveHappy
    RunFarLiveHappy Posts: 805 Member
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    There was an episode of Dexter where the Trinity Killer used the stick figures w/names on the back of a family's vehicle to then lure the little boy (age 10) to him by telling him he was a cop and his parents had been in an accident (mentioned parents by name). The boy then asked about his sister and Trinity assured him that she was in the car waiting for him (also mentioned sister by name). The boy then followed him and almost ended up dead (saved by Dexter).

    That scene from Dexter, though fictional, could easily play out in reality and is exactly why these stick figure stickers need to go away. That and they are just annoying. No one really cares about your stick figure family.

    And this scene could have played out any number of other ways. Those people that we really fear who actually do this - they are really, really good. Being a smooth talker is a very powerful tool. The name is an easy give, but if they don't have that, it doesn't mean they will just give up. I guarantee Trinity would have found another way.
    Plus, does no one call their child by name in public?

    Is there a risk from strangers - absolutely. As pointed out a few times in this thread, we worry about things like stickers on a car when just as much or more information is available a ton of other ways. But the bigger risk are people who already know all this information anyway.

    My kids and I use codewords in public.

    Just kidding.

    But, yeah, I got told today (again) that I should not run outside in the dark because it is not safe. I know what I should have done was to pull up the stats on my iphone and demonstrate that, at my age, being alone inside my own house with a neighbor (who knows my name) is probably the highest risk activity I can engage in. However, I feigned ignorance about what I was being told and stated that I wear reflective gear on my runs.

    My reflective vest was delivered via fedex yesterday. Was going to wear it on my 4:00am run this morning.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
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    I just generally think they are stupid. But then I am not a fan of any bumper/window stickers anyway.


    Eta. I'm pretty happy with my car being nondescript. Makes me more liable to get away from the scene of the crime. ;)
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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  • So_Much_Fab
    So_Much_Fab Posts: 1,146 Member
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    I once saw one of those cheering horn/pom pom decals that was similar to this:

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    It looked so much like a twig and berries...hilarious!
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member
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  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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  • MassiveDelta
    MassiveDelta Posts: 3,311 Member
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    Umm... no. Not really.

    Um yes, dont give up details [period]
  • ladytxn
    ladytxn Posts: 97 Member
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    My SO and I think the stickers are silly..BUT...if we did put one on our vehicle it would be him, me .... and the motorcycle, the boat, the jetski, the pool......
  • bloodyhonest
    bloodyhonest Posts: 196 Member
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    Don't be jealous...they have one for you too...


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  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    There was an episode of Dexter where the Trinity Killer used the stick figures w/names on the back of a family's vehicle to then lure the little boy (age 10) to him by telling him he was a cop and his parents had been in an accident (mentioned parents by name). The boy then asked about his sister and Trinity assured him that she was in the car waiting for him (also mentioned sister by name). The boy then followed him and almost ended up dead (saved by Dexter).

    That scene from Dexter, though fictional, could easily play out in reality and is exactly why these stick figure stickers need to go away. That and they are just annoying. No one really cares about your stick figure family.

    And this scene could have played out any number of other ways. Those people that we really fear who actually do this - they are really, really good. Being a smooth talker is a very powerful tool. The name is an easy give, but if they don't have that, it doesn't mean they will just give up. I guarantee Trinity would have found another way.
    Plus, does no one call their child by name in public?

    Is there a risk from strangers - absolutely. As pointed out a few times in this thread, we worry about things like stickers on a car when just as much or more information is available a ton of other ways. But the bigger risk are people who already know all this information anyway.

    My kids and I use codewords in public.

    Just kidding.

    But, yeah, I got told today (again) that I should not run outside in the dark because it is not safe. I know what I should have done was to pull up the stats on my iphone and demonstrate that, at my age, being alone inside my own house with a neighbor (who knows my name) is probably the highest risk activity I can engage in. However, I feigned ignorance about what I was being told and stated that I wear reflective gear on my runs.

    My reflective vest was delivered via fedex yesterday. Was going to wear it on my 4:00am run this morning.

    The one I went on and you didn't?
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    Umm... no. Not really.

    Um yes, dont give up details [period]

    Tell me what part of your # of family members is sensitive/confidential data as it pertains to security objectives/interests of the USG? I think you're confused with actual data that could compromise OPERATIONAL SECURITY (OPSEC), but what do I know, I only have a TS clearance.
  • digitalbill
    digitalbill Posts: 1,410 Member
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    OPSEC

    Umm... no. Not really.

    Um yes, dont give up details [period]

    Tell me what part of your # of family members is sensitive/confidential data as it pertains to security objectives/interests of the USG? I think you're confused with actual data that could compromise OPERATIONAL SECURITY (OPSEC), but what do I know, I only have a TS clearance.
    He COULD tell you but... well... you know the rest.
  • bethlaf
    bethlaf Posts: 954 Member
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    i like this one dca266daa08d03f5a0c374f65e27be79.jpg

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