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QFTJudging by the number of people in this thread who have basically written off the general forums, I think it's a well-deserved criticism.
If numbers don't lie, then I am assuming the criticism of your behavior from many here is well founded as well?
I have directly quoted you a few times, stated my opinion.... and you choose to ignore it, that is fine...maybe you prefer not to have your own statements used against you *shrug*. Then you find something to pick apart and try to place fault in everybody but yourself. To be BLUNT....You do not practice what you preach, you also do not come off as a very nice person or as someone who takes responsibility for their own life and actions. The true definition of a bully is someone who belittles others to boost their own sense of self. You hide behind passive aggression, this is one of the most destructive kinds of aggression. We all see it why as a psych major can you not?
off to catch up on 3-4 more pages0 -
:drinker:I am more Machiavellian than 14% of others. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. :frown: On the other hand, no psychopathology, so yay!
Narcissism 15th percentile
Machiavellianism 84th percentile
Psychopathy 26th percentile
I'm not totally sure. But I think this means I'm a jerk.
No, it means you should be a lawyer, trust me on this.
But what if she doesn't want to get fat?0 -
Why do you care if you're not DavPaul?
Indeed.
Why do any of us care if we're not DavPaul?
Does DavPaul care if he's not DavPaul?
If DavPaul doesn't care if he's not DavPaul, should any of us care?
I don't know the answers.
But it really makes you think.
I just woke up from a nap and it's possible I am still groggy.0 -
And no, gifs aren't cute, funny, or leaventing to the person who ted the thread being derailed, especially if they're chosen to humiliate that person. Most of the time they're just, yes, mean.
You mean gifs like a pig slamming her head repeatedly on a table laden with pastries?
This little helpful ditty was the eighth reply left on the Rasperry ketone!! thread started by a mother from the UK who was a newer poster with a bunch of kids who felt confused and unattractive.
Of course some "helpful" links and quotes from New Age speaker Wayne Dyer were also left. After the *pig* GIF. Real nice. Push her down in front of everybody, skin her knee, then offer her a hand up and a Band Aid. Thanks a lot MFP!
For what it's worth, you had the following advice in that same thread:I don't know what they are but they sound rather tasty.
*shrug*
Here is exactly what I said:
"The best way to get help from MFPers is to open your diary, log everything you eat honestly, and then three months from now ask for feedback if you still haven't lost weight.
Also, and sorry if this sounds mean, make sure your posts are proof read with pretty good spelling and grammar. This lends to the legitimacy of your interest in sincerely asking for help.
I don't think you're illiterate - that's not what I'm saying. Maybe you're just rushing or using an android phone touch screen to type.
Unless it's known exactly what you're eating and how much, no one can really help at this point.
And Raspberry Keytones will probably get you razzed, yes. Aren't they a Dr. Oz thing? I don't know what they are but they sound rather tasty."
So just for clarification what you wrote above is better and more helpful than what I wrote in that thread? I get you don't like Ms. Piggy gif, I can understand that, I thought it was funny, and I get some people won't. You can't make everyone happy.
Be miserable. Or motivate yourself. Whatever has to be done, it's always your choice.
-Wayne Dyer
There are no magic pills. Only hard work and dedication.
It's about moderation not deprivation. There are no good/bad foods, only bad eating habits. Do or do not, there is no try. You have to want it, you have to work for it, you have to realize that only you can do it.
Read these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/974888-in-place-of-a-road-map-2k13
TL:DR the link right above this one then ->http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet
Excuses??? http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2014/06/02/the-no-excuses-play-like-a-champion-challenge/
If you have 75+ lbs to lose 2 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 40-75 lbs to lose 1.5 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 25-40 lbs to lose 1 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 15 -25 lbs to lose 0.5 to 1.0 lbs/week is ideal
If you have less than 15 lbs to lose 0.5 lbs/week is ideal
Want to lift heavy things?
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
Stronglifts Summary
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/560459-stronglifts-5x5-summary
Stronglifts Womens Group
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women
I know everyone loved the triad thing but I'm going to say this has to be my favourite thing in this entire thread.0 -
Why do you care if you're not DavPaul?
Indeed.
Why do any of us care if we're not DavPaul?
Does DavPaul care if he's not DavPaul?
If DavPaul doesn't care if he's not DavPaul, should any of us care?
I don't know the answers.
But it really makes you think.
I just woke up from a nap and it's possible I am still groggy.
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Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.0 -
Judging by the number of people in this thread who have basically written off the general forums, I think it's a well-deserved criticism.
If numbers don't lie, then I am assuming the criticism of your behavior from many here is well founded as well?
I have directly quoted you a few times, stated my opinion.... and you choose to ignore it, that is fine...maybe you prefer not to have your own statements used against you *shrug*. Then you find something to pick apart and try to place fault in everybody but yourself. To be BLUNT....You do not practice what you preach, you also do not come off as a very nice person or as someone who takes responsibility for their own life and actions. The true definition of a bully is someone who belittles others to boost their own sense of self. You hide behind passive aggression, this is one of the most destructive kinds of aggression. We all see it why as a psych major can you not?
She embodies every behavior on MFP that she claims to dislike.0 -
Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.
:blushing:
Nah, just kidding.
I don't blush.
But you're very welcome...
...and thank you for having the courage to share.
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Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK. :smooched: 0 -
Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.
THIS is why Jof is on my FL. And this is why I troll the forums. I find the helpful ones and friend them. I also friend the funny ones but that's for a different post :happy:0 -
Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.
THIS is why Jof is on my FL. And this is why I troll the forums. I find the helpful ones and friend them. I also friend the funny ones but that's for a different post :happy:
In the best of both worlds: Sometimes the really smart, helpful ones are also the funny ones. :drinker: 0 -
Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.
I'm just gonna quote this.
For science.0 -
Specific gratitude beats vague and shadowy accusations every. dang. time.
How impressive.
Anyway, if anyone is still having trouble operating their body, my offer to advise still stands. Nobody done took me up on it yet, I think some people just want validation maybe and I'm fresh out of cuddles. I use 'em up on my family and friends.0 -
I'm going to throw this out there and I'm sure I'll get backlash good and bad. I invite you to keep your nasty comments to yourself.
I love mfp, I really do. I use it to my benefit and I only post stuff on here that I would tell anyone, anywhere any time. It is the internet, you know. There is the one thing that does bother me when I see it posted. It's not the bashing or lack of accountability but the second life that the site seems to have taken on and that is one of a dating site. Jeez people, get a life! Who cares if you think the person above you is hot or if you'd date the person below your or if you think we should or have the right to rate anyone else who uses this site. It bothers be so I'm just going to say this and leave it "IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT CRAP, THERE IS ANOTHER 3 LETTER SITE FOR YOU!! IT'S CALLED POF!! USE IT!!"
Yes I know the thread has moved on from this post on page 15 :laugh:
But I see this sort of comment from time to time and I don't get it - those sort of threads are always in chit chat fun and games section, you know, the section not about weight or fitness issues.
If you don't like that section, don't go in it. If you dont like those sort of threads don't go in them.
I don't go for them either, but if other people enjoy them that's ok.
I just don't open them myself - too easy. Not seeing the need to shout at people to Get a Life,just because they like different threads to me.0 -
This is supposed to be a place of support, but it is still the internet. There are going to be differences in opinions, and there are people who do not know how to express their opinions in a respectful manner.0
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oh I'm fat poor me
OH! I just spent 30 mins looking at a forum when I COULD HAVE BEEN EXERCISING.....drop and give me 20!! hut hut hut hut....
Not everyone is a cow BUT some people just luurve a stir up keep at it and be healthy.... mwa
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I'm going to throw this out there and I'm sure I'll get backlash good and bad. I invite you to keep your nasty comments to yourself.
I love mfp, I really do. I use it to my benefit and I only post stuff on here that I would tell anyone, anywhere any time. It is the internet, you know. There is the one thing that does bother me when I see it posted. It's not the bashing or lack of accountability but the second life that the site seems to have taken on and that is one of a dating site. Jeez people, get a life! Who cares if you think the person above you is hot or if you'd date the person below your or if you think we should or have the right to rate anyone else who uses this site. It bothers be so I'm just going to say this and leave it "IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT CRAP, THERE IS ANOTHER 3 LETTER SITE FOR YOU!! IT'S CALLED POF!! USE IT!!"
Yes I know the thread has moved on from this post on page 15 :laugh:
But I see this sort of comment from time to time and I don't get it - those sort of threads are always in chit chat fun and games section, you know, the section not about weight or fitness issues.
If you don't like that section, don't go in it. If you dont like those sort of threads don't go in them.
I don't go for them either, but if other people enjoy them that's ok.
I just don't open them myself - too easy. Not seeing the need to shout at people to Get a Life,just because they like different threads to me.
Lol yeah the post was that bizarre. Same with people who don't like a thread and come into it to complain about it. Just don't click dammit!!0 -
It has changed...it seems a lot whinier than it was when I started. I believe it is the younger generation that needs all of this coddling and participating ribbons and what not. Your mommy told you that you were a special and unique snowflake and got A's for effort and it's turned you all into a bunch of pansies who've never been told no and never been told you are wrong...so when you are told that you are wrong you think it's bullying and unsupportive.
Grow a pair and stop being such a panty waist.
Winner!0 -
Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.
Brings a little tear to my eye. And kind of destroys the entire thread.
Anecdotally, of course. 0 -
Dear Jof,
I wanted to say Thank you and any other person here who has takes the time and has the courage to try to help others here on the forums. It would be VERY true to say I am a lurker, I am pretty shy and it would also be true to say that some of the said bullying type issues that have been raised do make me very nervous to put myself "out there".
I have followed your advice and direction on other threads and it has helped me immensely.
I did end up getting a few individuals come in just for no other reason than to be jerks. When I posed a question in Maintaining Weight about whether Weight set points exist, can change in light of having a chronic illness. One particular sarcastic comment about crosses to bear, eating sticks of butter and No I'll NEVER put on weight, cut deeply. They were NOT anyone I have seen before, one was only 18 years old anyway.... and while it was really upsetting.....I had help from another MFP'er calling them out on their comments. The comments disappeared.....I'm a bit confused about that, maybe the Moderators took them down?
Please, please don't stop posting. People who are new or having struggles sorting the wheat from the chaff will miss out on so much if you get discouraged by these sort of idiotic generalisations.
You, I Lift Heavy Acrylics. Sugary Lynx DavPul, Evingentrix (sp), Quiet Bloom.... there are SO MANY others.....these are just off the top of my head have helped me so much, all the way over the other side of the World....and even tho' my health is at an all time low at moment it would have been worse if I had of stuck with MY original ideas (ie 1200 cal a must, there is 'good food and bad food', cardio is the only way and once upon a time I believed in the alluring promises of the Pills, Shakes, Cleanses etc). YOU and the others gave me pause for thought....made ME ask questions and THINK. That's special, that means alot.
So Thank you once again
Karen XXX
PS: I am going to put this on the thread too. Hope that's OK.
I saw that thread. That truly was an example of someone being unnecessarily rude. I didn't respond then because others had already dealt with the issue and I didn't feel I had any solid advice I could add for your particular issue, but I wanted to respond now to say thank you for having the courage to come in here and post this.:flowerforyou:0 -
I really like this example too:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1314862-yay-then-meh
Someone is confused and discouraged and asks if X is supposed to happen. People respond with information and sympathy. It happens all day long, every day here. Doesn't stay in the top three on your sidebar because it isn't continually getting bumped. It's a site design flaw.0 -
I really like this example too:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1314862-yay-then-meh
Someone is confused and discouraged and asks if X is supposed to happen. People respond with information and sympathy. It happens all day long, every day here. Doesn't stay in the top three on your sidebar because it isn't continually getting bumped. It's a site design flaw.
OR IS IT?!? :huh:
[conspiracy.gif]
/conspiracytheory0 -
I really like this example too:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1314862-yay-then-meh
Someone is confused and discouraged and asks if X is supposed to happen. People respond with information and sympathy. It happens all day long, every day here. Doesn't stay in the top three on your sidebar because it isn't continually getting bumped. It's a site design flaw.
OR IS IT?!? :huh:
[conspiracy.gif]
/conspiracytheory
You know how they say always avoid claiming malice where stupidity may be the culprit. In instances where stupidly is quite obviously the cultprit, you *definitely* should not assume malice. It would be like calling lemmings suicidal. You insult the lemmings and embarrass yourself.0
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