OK Ladies...Be HONEST!!
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The Funniest thing in this post is that girls with statements like "I don't care If they stare at me" or "I don't even pay attention" have profile pictures with their butts. Hey girls, you show your butt in a webpage to strangers and you are telling us you don't want to have "the looks" on it when you work out at gym?
^^^ This is a bunch of crap, my avatar picture is not my face because I don't want complete strangers seeing my face, and I have worked my a** off literally to look the way that I do so I am going to show that off on a site where "fitness" is the main focus.
Now on to the OP.
1st of all the idea that the OP thinks that because I choose to go to a gym where there are actual weights and actual equipment to do what I want to do instead of going to an all women facility with none of the above mentioned then I must be wanting to be stared at is complete nonsense and just plain ignorant.
2nd of all I find it crazy that there is actually a discussion / debate going on about how women dress in the gym and if they are doing it for comfort or for looks. WHO CARES!! Srsly!! I workout in a pair of capris and a tank most the time, other times I wear a pair of sweats and a tee shirt. Yeah, tighter pants might provoke more looks from the men but when I am in the gym I am there to workout, bust my *kitten* and GTFO!! I don't keep tabs of who is there, and who is looking at me and for how long, and if said look qualify as just a look or a creepy stare. Give me a break! Ain't nobody got time for that! Sheesh!
We are grateful you reply to our "crap" with a big crap paragraph! If you were not feeling insecure you wouldn't apologise about how you are dressed while working out and you would't show your butt in a website.
My butt is not showing on a website my dear, if you would have opened your eyes, and then followed up with actually reading what I wrote maybe you would understand a bit better! Also, sounds like someone just wants confrontation and maybe needs a hug.... :flowerforyou: Also, please point out where I apologized for what I wear while working out and after you fail at that, please point out how a comment / apology that was never made makes me insecure.. Thanks in advance!0 -
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Sorry if I offended you, however when I said that, I wasn't pointing fingers at you. I didn't swear either. In general women do tend to lie. It happens more so with youngsters. Truth hurts I now. Men can be creepy I agree.
So can women....
Sounds like all of your gyms are creepy social gyms and not hard core weight slinging gyms. I focus on my workout and don't have time for that crap.
What do you do between sets?
I know you weren't asking this of me but...I stare off into space.
Sometimes my eyes fix on another person, unintentionally. If I notice, I'll stare at a piece of gym equipment. If they look back, like they are uncomfortable, this is usually enough to snap me out of my exercise fog and look away.
I get STUPID when I exercise.0 -
The Funniest thing in this post is that girls with statements like "I don't care If they stare at me" or "I don't even pay attention" have profile pictures with their butts. Hey girls, you show your butt in a webpage to strangers and you are telling us you don't want to have "the looks" on it when you work out at gym?
^^^ This is a bunch of crap, my avatar picture is not my face because I don't want complete strangers seeing my face, and I have worked my a** off literally to look the way that I do so I am going to show that off on a site where "fitness" is the main focus.
Now on to the OP.
1st of all the idea that the OP thinks that because I choose to go to a gym where there are actual weights and actual equipment to do what I want to do instead of going to an all women facility with none of the above mentioned then I must be wanting to be stared at is complete nonsense and just plain ignorant.
2nd of all I find it crazy that there is actually a discussion / debate going on about how women dress in the gym and if they are doing it for comfort or for looks. WHO CARES!! Srsly!! I workout in a pair of capris and a tank most the time, other times I wear a pair of sweats and a tee shirt. Yeah, tighter pants might provoke more looks from the men but when I am in the gym I am there to workout, bust my *kitten* and GTFO!! I don't keep tabs of who is there, and who is looking at me and for how long, and if said look qualify as just a look or a creepy stare. Give me a break! Ain't nobody got time for that! Sheesh!
We are grateful you reply to our "crap" with a big crap paragraph! If you were not feeling insecure you wouldn't apologise about how you are dressed while working out and you would't show your butt in a website.
If I show my butt, boobs, legs or whatever, it's because I'm proud of how much work I put into them. Not because I want to be sexually harassed or because I'm insecure. While I chose not to do those things, I'd never label another woman for her different choices. It really makes me sad to see a women perpetuate this mindset.0 -
Sorry if I offended you, however when I said that, I wasn't pointing fingers at you. I didn't swear either. In general women do tend to lie. It happens more so with youngsters. Truth hurts I now. Men can be creepy I agree.
So can women....
Sounds like all of your gyms are creepy social gyms and not hard core weight slinging gyms. I focus on my workout and don't have time for that crap.
What do you do between sets?
Catch my breath, load more weight on or take some off, drink bottled water and hit the next set. If I'm by myself.0 -
I heard something on the radio this morning that got me thinking. Do good looking women really dislike it when guys check them out at the gym??? I'm starting to think that if they didn't there would be more Curves opening up. I'm sure it can be a pain when guys hit on you but do you really mind some looks??? I know if I was looking good I would be motivated and flattered by a woman checking me out. Let me know your true feelings. Hell , call me a perverted *kitten* if you want just tell the truth.
#manlogic:
Women who put themselves in the presence of men OBVIOUSLY do so because they enjoy being leered at. Or if they don't enjoy it, they should at least expect it, because *hey* they're women.
And women who don't enjoy that type of behavior should exile themselves to a women's only facility geared more towards their more delicate constitutions.
**face palm**
Here's the truth - you are misogynistic. Now keep your eyes on your own rack and off of mine.
Sincerely,
Women Everywhere
Wow! Not that was some honesty for your *kitten*!! (No pun intended) I really don't find myself to be misogynistic.
Wow, she's bitter eh?
It is normal for men to look. It's called testosterone. Lighten up. Goodness..
Yes, because I must be bitter if I prefer men to respect me.
To each their own. I'm not out here bashing the ladies who don't mind with the attention, how about you let me have my opinion and find a way to express your own?
First of all, I did express my own opinion in another post.
Second, calling someone misogynistic because he asked if women minded being looked at is a pretty damn far stretch. Were some of his comments ignorant? Yes but I really don't think he was bashing women here. I think he was just sincerely asking a question.
So again, in your eyes, a woman who doesn't welcome the advances of a man is "bitter"?
Sigh.
Okay friend.
And as it relates to the OP - I don't think he realized or intended on being misogynistic, but saying he assumes women are okay and probably even enjoy getting oogled, as evidenced by the fact that they don't flock to a women's only gym... well that certainly is not a very positive or empowering opinion of women. It asserts that women do not act on their own, but rather, only in response to what men do. If we want the D, we go to a coed gym. If not, Curves.
I'm not saying OP is a jerk, he's been funny and engaging in this whole thread. For that I applaud him! And I agree he was seeking some reaction to an opinion he formed while listening to a radio program. In his words - he could be a "perverted a**hole" for thinking this. How is letting him know his opinion is not very positive towards women worse than calling him that??
For the record, I thought your response to the OP was spot on. For you to question his logic, the next step was of course for folks to call you bitter to try to restore the power balance to the currently accepted societal norm. How dare you stand up for yourself? For heaven's sake, you even had some sound reasoning. I'm sure that alarms people.0 -
I heard something on the radio this morning that got me thinking. Do good looking women really dislike it when guys check them out at the gym???
If you are ugly they do. If you are stud they may feign offense but slide their number into your shorts.0 -
I'm not offended, I'm pissed.
You were pointing a finger at all women. I am, in fact, a women, ergo, it was at me.
I enjoyed attention when I was younger, because I found worth OUTSIDE of myself. I no longer do. That does not mean that all young women have that same mindset - and it's not fair to generalize like that. The reason I believed I was only worth the attention I received, was because I was raped at gunpoint at 18. Instead of being afraid of men, I craved their attention so *I* could be the one in control of whatever happened between us.
If a woman does enjoy that sort of attention, more power to them. The idea here is that women should be (dress, behave, etc) exactly who they want to be, safely.
I don't agree that men are creepy - I never said that. My point was that some men have a hard time understanding what being a women in this country entails and therefore label women unfairly. But then, women label other women unfairly, too. Obviously.
I just want to say, I'm so sorry that happened to you. :flowerforyou:
Thanks
I didn't share to be "poor me" - it was a long time ago. I just want to show that lots of personal things impact the way we act and it's really harmful to make assumptions.0 -
I just find the treadmill behind this, get on, and chase.......
I prefer men but even I would check that out :laugh:
Straight girls can appreciate a nice butt, too, ya know
One word: JEALOUS!!!!
Yeah that's certainly a backside to strive for
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Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.0 -
I'm super self-conscious so if anyone is looking at me at the gym I automatically assume it's in a negative way and it makes me super uncomfortable. This is why I prefer working out in dark rooms with group classes and an instructor telling me what to do. I don't know if this will ever change but I hope so! :indifferent:0
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Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
Commenting ONLY on this post not the OP.....
As a fictional (and very handsome :blushing: ) Dr. always said.....
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I just find the treadmill behind this, get on, and chase.......
I prefer men but even I would check that out :laugh:
Straight girls can appreciate a nice butt, too, ya know
One word: JEALOUS!!!!
Yeah that's certainly a backside to strive for
That is an example of someone who WANTS you to look... and I would too if I looked like that!!0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's contributing to rape culture - saying that women who don't want attention are lying. It's incredibly harmful, hence my anger.0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's contributing to rape culture - saying that women who don't want attention are lying. It's incredibly harmful, hence my anger.
I couldn't agree more.0 -
I've seen a few check me out. But, most times, I just assume their attention is for someone else. I suppose in my mind I'll always be the big-girl. With that said it's always nice to get a look or compliment.0
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There is also unwanted female attention. Crazy stalker women. Its more prevalent in men than women but does exist. True also that just because you are older doesn't make you smarter or wiser. Cutting on someones generation and blaming it for the problems of todays world is wrong. Without it where would you be, more positives than negatives I'd bet. Plus just because you are younger does not mean you a know everything, even when you think you do.0
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Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
Exactly. This is the problem. You are saying "Women lie. They DO like attention at the gym."
The next step could be: "Women lie. They DO like it when men grab their *kitten* on at the bar."
Followed by: "Women lie. They DO like it when men force them to have sex."
See, the problem? And of course, no, it doesn't always progress that way. But the one, or one hundred times it does, is enough to dictate that we don't say things like this, or make assumptions like this.0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?
I don't think they were necessarily comparing you to a rapist. Just trying to show that what you said, contributes to rape culture and a society that accepts rape as ok and normal.0 -
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?
No one is calling you a rapist.
It's not about a "hard to swallow" opinion. It's about dangerous rhetoric that can be taken the wrong way by a bad person. It's shocking to me that, as a woman, you can't understand this.
If a woman says she doesn't like the attention, then it's best that everyone assumes she doesn't like the attention. Then there is no confusion and no potential harm. Period. End of story.0 -
There is also unwanted female attention. Crazy stalker women. Its more prevalent in men than women but does exist. True also that just because you are older doesn't make you smarter or wiser. Cutting on someones generation and blaming it for the problems of todays world is wrong. Without it where would you be, more positives than negatives I'd bet. Plus just because you are younger doe not make you a know it all even when you think you do.
Absolutely there are men that are victims. I don't want anyone to think that being outspoken about women and their rights doesn't mean I don't know that it happens to men, too.0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?
But you are trying to speak for me.
If you mean that *you* lie. That's fine and you are free to say so, though the statement makes it hard to believe you.
If you mean that people, in general, lie about many things. That is a fact. But that's not what you said.
You said that *women* like it. And *women* lie. I am a woman. Basic logic dictates that, as member of the group *women,* I like it. And I lie.
I have every right to be angry about somebody saying that about me without provocation. My original answer was quite frank.0 -
There is also unwanted female attention. Crazy stalker women. Its more prevalent in men than women but does exist. True also that just because you are older doesn't make you smarter or wiser. Cutting on someones generation and blaming it for the problems of todays world is wrong. Without it where would you be, more positives than negatives I'd bet. Plus just because you are younger doe not make you a know it all even when you think you do.
Ask any 12 year old boy with a cell phone whether there are more crazy male stalker than crazy female stalkers.
Maybe we should start a thread asking men if they like it...be honest now. And if they don't like it, why don't they attend all male schools?0 -
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?
No one is calling you a rapist.
It's not about a "hard to swallow" opinion. It's about dangerous rhetoric that can be taken the wrong way by a bad person. It's shocking to me that, as a woman, you can't understand this.
If a woman says she doesn't like the attention, then it's best that everyone assumes she doesn't like the attention. Then there is no confusion and no potential harm. Period. End of story.
I'm just going to follow you around and ditto everything you say.0 -
As the person who started this post....This is for sure not where I thought this would go. I was not inquiring about rape culture! But I guess in the overly sensitive world in which we now live I should have saw this coming.Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
Exactly. This is the problem. You are saying "Women lie. They DO like attention at the gym."
The next step could be: "Women lie. They DO like it when men grab their *kitten* on at the bar."
Followed by: "Women lie. They DO like it when men force them to have sex."
See, the problem? And of course, no, it doesn't always progress that way. But the one, or one hundred times it does, is enough to dictate that we don't say things like this, or make assumptions like this.0 -
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?
No one is calling you a rapist.
It's not about a "hard to swallow" opinion. It's about dangerous rhetoric that can be taken the wrong way by a bad person. It's shocking to me that, as a woman, you can't understand this.
If a woman says she doesn't like the attention, then it's best that everyone assumes she doesn't like the attention. Then there is no confusion and no potential harm. Period. End of story.
Who said I don't understand? I do. Not one person on this site has walked in my shoes...do not be so ready to judge me.0 -
I heard something on the radio this morning that got me thinking. Do good looking women really dislike it when guys check them out at the gym??? I'm starting to think that if they didn't there would be more Curves opening up. I'm sure it can be a pain when guys hit on you but do you really mind some looks??? I know if I was looking good I would be motivated and flattered by a woman checking me out. Let me know your true feelings. Hell , call me a perverted *kitten* if you want just tell the truth.
#manlogic:
Women who put themselves in the presence of men OBVIOUSLY do so because they enjoy being leered at. Or if they don't enjoy it, they should at least expect it, because *hey* they're women.
And women who don't enjoy that type of behavior should exile themselves to a women's only facility geared more towards their more delicate constitutions.
**face palm**
Here's the truth - you are misogynistic. Now keep your eyes on your own rack and off of mine.
Sincerely,
Women Everywhere
Wow! Not that was some honesty for your *kitten*!! (No pun intended) I really don't find myself to be misogynistic.
Wow, she's bitter eh?
It is normal for men to look. It's called testosterone. Lighten up. Goodness..
Yes, because I must be bitter if I prefer men to respect me.
To each their own. I'm not out here bashing the ladies who don't mind with the attention, how about you let me have my opinion and find a way to express your own?
First of all, I did express my own opinion in another post.
Second, calling someone misogynistic because he asked if women minded being looked at is a pretty damn far stretch. Were some of his comments ignorant? Yes but I really don't think he was bashing women here. I think he was just sincerely asking a question.
Thanks .... I think?? I didn't think I was showing any ignorance, if I was please enlighten me.0 -
Lol ...ok dear. I'm a mother, and a grandmother. I've been around a while. I'm not saying all women lie. I'm saying a lot of girls do. Let's play nice now. Have a nice day:)
You're confusing age with wisdom. One doesn't necessarily lead to the other. You may be older than the average person here, but that doesn't make you more intelligent. From the tone of your posts it only goes to show how far we've come at combating the horrible stereotypes of past generations.
Well like I mentioned before, I do believe women lie. However I apologize for my English as I am a foreigner. You are assuming I am being mean, horrible, a nasty person to all women...I'm not. Young women do tend to stretch the truth. Men lie too. No group is off limits. People lie.
I think the problem here is the context in which you are saying women lie. If I tell a man that I don't want him to leer at me, pursue me, kiss me, grab me and so on, and so forth, then I absolutely mean it. If said man thinks I'm lying and thinks I really like the unwanted attention, where does it stop?
By saying that women are lying when they say they don't want this type of attention, you are basically setting us up for a potentially scary situation. Because, no not all men act like this. But, yes, all women have either had to defend themselves or know of someone who has had to defend themselves from unwanted male attention.
I agree with what you are saying. But people putting me in a rap-ist catagory is wrong. The OP asked for an honest opinion, I gave it. I have read everyone's opinion. Is it so hard to read one that is a little harder to swallow?
I think the safest thing to say is this.
Some women MAY like the attention, but the best bet is always to assume they DON'T.
Fictional conversation:
Person A: "I saw this chick dressed sexy at the gym and I thought she was hot. I stared at her all session long, and then when she walked by, I whispered under my breath "Dayum Girl" She got all huffy and told me to f-off! Said that I was a creep and that she wasn't there for my personal pleasure! Can you believe it?!?"
Person B: "Meh, don't worry about it. The way she was dressed, she clearly wanted it. Women lie all the time"
That's how your statement comes off. Yeah, maybe there is that one girl who DOES actually want the attention. But by saying that women are liars, it comes off as giving the green light to go ahead and act creepy. Not cool.
And for the record... some guys may find sweats and a t sexier than tight yoga pants and sports bra.0
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