Quality of food or quantity, which is more important to you?
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always this battle between good vs bad food. I personally view losing weight as a whole, eating food that provide me with good nutrient with as little calories as possible. I need food to prevent heart disease, prevent osteoporoses and other little nasties that often catched up with you. I would rather avoid them, than dealing with them.
If I have to choose between an apple at 100 calories and a small bag of snack cookies at the same calorie level, I will choose the apple without even thinking about it because of the illness I wish to prevent.
So even if I can lose weight eating all the food I love, it wont fullfill my other needs. Same for exercises I will lose weight without them and yet I still do it every day because the weight loss is easier to achieve and my body looks better.
So to each its own way of eating depending on their goals.
I'll choose the apple too, but if it's a matter of satisfying a craving with 1/2 a cup of ice cream, or a beer in the evening, then I'm satisfying the craving. My diet is mostly lean meats, vegetables, fruit, yogurt, eggs, and egg whites, but I leave room for the extras. What people seem to missing is that is what IIFYM is about. It's not eating junk food 24/7. We mention moderation because it works over the long term and it does result in a lean physique and solid health markers when combined with the right amount of calories and strength training.
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If you don't weigh your food - how do you count the correct amount of calories? Weighing (and measuring) your food is paramount to knowing how many calories you are really eating.
Quality of food = healthy lifestyle.
Quantity of food = can achieve weight loss, but you aren't going to end up healthy in the end.0 -
This is why I was keeping my diary closed for a long time and just recently only allow friends to see it. What I eat is none of anyone else's business but mine. Sure, the community is part of why we come here, but everyone's individual body and what they put in it is a private concern. For heaven's sake, all many fat people have to do to be judged by strangers is to exist in public.0
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always this battle between good vs bad food. I personally view losing weight as a whole, eating food that provide me with good nutrient with as little calories as possible. I need food to prevent heart disease, prevent osteoporoses and other little nasties that often catched up with you. I would rather avoid them, than dealing with them.
If I have to choose between an apple at 100 calories and a small bag of snack cookies at the same calorie level, I will choose the apple without even thinking about it because of the illness I wish to prevent.
So even if I can lose weight eating all the food I love, it wont fullfill my other needs. Same for exercises I will lose weight without them and yet I still do it every day because the weight loss is easier to achieve and my body looks better.
So to each its own way of eating depending on their goals.
Eating just an apple or just a bag of snack cookies have the same effect: Hunger. So I would never eat just either.
Also: 100 calorie apples? Where? When?! Mine are always around 200 calories. I could eat two packs of your cookies for that. Might have a better macro breakdown (Apple is just carbs, cookies will probably have some fat and maybe a little protein)0 -
Of course even if I want to eat a certain way for my health I will indulge in a scrumptious piece of cheese, so you see we can all agree on certain things. Some will adhere to a stricter diet because they have incentive to do so. When I was 20, my concerned were not the same as when I was 30 or now closer to 60.
This was an answer in regard to sunofabeach post.0 -
Of course even if I want to eat a certain way for my health I will indulge in a scrumptious piece of cheese, so you see we can all agree on certain things. Some will adhere to a stricter diet because they have incentive to do so. When I was 20, my concerned were not the same as when I was 30 or now xloser to 60.
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Weighing may be essential for some foods such as meat (except for prepackaged ground meat), but often measuring food works just as well. As someone who cooks frequently, I can measure and sometimes estimate cups, tablespoons, etc. (more easily with food than liquid) and derive calories from that serving size as most MFP foods provide more than one measurement to log calories. But maybe you were referring to just meat or both weighing and measuring and I misunderstood. Also looking at the total weight of a package of meat and dividing to find an average for each piece is acceptable for some people as well.You're not judging but judging, and you count calories but don't weigh? What are you counting then?0 -
I lost 26 pounds and have been successfully maintaining for a year now and I've never once weighed or measured my food.0
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Weighing may be essential for some foods such as meat (except for prepackaged ground meat), but often measuring food works just as well. As someone who cooks frequently, I can measure and sometimes estimate cups, tablespoons, etc. (more easily with food than liquid) and derive calories from that serving size as most MFP foods provide more than one measurement to log calories. But maybe you were referring to just meat or both weighing and measuring and I misunderstood. Also looking at the total weight of a package of meat and dividing to find an average for each piece is acceptable for some people as well.You're not judging but judging, and you count calories but don't weigh? What are you counting then?
I don't always measure now, but I certainly did for over a year as a food scale is a great wake up call. I now only weigh in a cut, and I strongly recommend that if you haven't used one that you do.0 -
What makes a food "junk"? I've never understood this and I never will.
Anything with excessive sugar, and no real nutrition is junk! Empty calories, that Reese's cheesecake up there, that's junk! Any food product that comes off an assembly line. Processed foods full of preservatives and ingredients you could barely pronounce=junk!
The reason for a food scale is accuracy... You will better at guesstimating weight after some time with a food scale...0 -
Weighing may be essential for some foods such as meat (except for prepackaged ground meat), but often measuring food works just as well. As someone who cooks frequently, I can measure and sometimes estimate cups, tablespoons, etc. (more easily with food than liquid) and derive calories from that serving size as most MFP foods provide more than one measurement to log calories. But maybe you were referring to just meat or both weighing and measuring and I misunderstood. Also looking at the total weight of a package of meat and dividing to find an average for each piece is acceptable for some people as well.You're not judging but judging, and you count calories but don't weigh? What are you counting then?
I don't always measure now, but I certainly did for over a year as a food scale is a great wake up call. I now only weigh in a cut, and I strongly recommend that if you haven't used one that you do.
Same here. Using a scale and measuring was very educational when I first started using them and I used them for a very long time. Still use them on certain things but not as often as I used to.0 -
I agree!! Cheez Whiz = junk; Tillamook Pepper Jack Cheese = real0
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What makes a food "junk"? I've never understood this and I never will.
Anything with excessive sugar, and no real nutrition is junk! Empty calories, that Reese's cheesecake up there, that's junk! Any food product that comes off an assembly line. Processed foods full of preservatives and ingredients you could barely pronounce=junk!
The reason for a food scale is accuracy... You will better at guesstimating weight after some time with a food scale...
sorry this is what I agree with... another example "diet" microwave popcorn = junk; air popped popcorn with real butter and salt = real0 -
quantity.
Can eat way too much "healthy" foods and therefore not be at my current target deficit hence no fat loss.
I don't really see the point in attempting to track cals if you don't weigh or measure anything. Most people's guesttimates are WAY off. Although, if they are consistently way off (in the same direction) then it will probably still work
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I'd say quality, but this is coming from someone who had this for lunch
But normally I would honestly say quality
Pic quoting because that is glorious.
Flexible dieting but I don't think I can fit that in at the moment. On my to do list to make later this year :happy:0 -
What makes a food "junk"? I've never understood this and I never will.
Any food product that comes off an assembly line. Processed foods full of preservatives and ingredients you could barely pronounce=junk!
Does that include protein powder? What about quest bars? Preworkouts? Creatine?0 -
What makes a food "junk"? I've never understood this and I never will.
Anything with excessive sugar, and no real nutrition is junk! Empty calories, that Reese's cheesecake up there, that's junk! Any food product that comes off an assembly line. Processed foods full of preservatives and ingredients you could barely pronounce=junk!
The reason for a food scale is accuracy... You will better at guesstimating weight after some time with a food scale...
Sorry, but excessive calories doesn't make something junk. And unless it's grown in your backyard or raised by you, it'll be processed to some extent, so you're saying that anything store bought is junk as well. That's why I hate the "good vs. bad food" argument. It makes no sense. I shouldn't feel guilty about eating a piece of cheesecake instead of an apple because it's "junk."0 -
None of the things you mentioned qualify as junk in my opinion.0
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That's not junk, that's indulgence :-)0
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Quality by a long shot.0
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Why is this a question. You need a certain quantity, and you need certain quality. The quantity is different for everyone. The quality is subjective. Your body has macronutrient and micronutrient requirements for health, but beyond that, what one person considers quality might or might not be the same as someone else.0
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What makes a food "junk"? I've never understood this and I never will.
Any food product that comes off an assembly line. Processed foods full of preservatives and ingredients you could barely pronounce=junk!
Does that include protein powder? What about quest bars? Preworkouts? Creatine?
Those have expensive ingredients, hence their price. No supplement is a replacement for real food!! In matters of fact all those supplements are unnecessary if your getting all your nutritional needs from food.0 -
So my answer to you Chrisdavey is yes! what you mentioned are unnecessary supplements intended to separate people from their money. Of course this is my opinion, you can eat whatever you want to eat if it works for you..,0
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I can save craploads of money getting my extra protein from protein powders and bars, instead of spending insane amounts of money on lean meats.So my answer to you Chrisdavey is yes! what you mentioned are unnecessary supplements intended to separate people from their money. Of course this is my opinion, you can eat whatever you want to eat if it works for you..,
Totes depends on where you live!
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I can save craploads of money getting my extra protein from protein powders and bars, instead of spending insane amounts of money on lean meats.So my answer to you Chrisdavey is yes! what you mentioned are unnecessary supplements intended to separate people from their money. Of course this is my opinion, you can eat whatever you want to eat if it works for you..,
Totes depends on where you live!
eta: spelling.
If your saving money great! I get10 pounds of chicken breast for 23 dollars... Also 7 and a half dozen eggs for 9 dollars...0 -
Err yes you are Judging.I ask because I see in a lot of diaries things like a breakfast of real junk food and at the end of the day the calorie intake is right but the food quality is soooo wrong. Not that I'm judging,
But to answer your question neither one is more important they both have their place for both physical and mental health. You may not think of something in someones diary as 'healthy' but mentally because they like it it will help their overall health to enable them to stick within their goals. Food is neither good nor bad it all supplies something even if that's just calories for energy.0 -
Yep, I'm def jealous haha! :grumble:
I can save craploads of money getting my extra protein from protein powders and bars, instead of spending insane amounts of money on lean meats.So my answer to you Chrisdavey is yes! what you mentioned are unnecessary supplements intended to separate people from their money. Of course this is my opinion, you can eat whatever you want to eat if it works for you..,
Totes depends on where you live!
eta: spelling.
If your saving money great! I get10 pounds of chicken breast for 23 dollars... Also 7 and a half dozen eggs for 9 dollars...0 -
Here's a quick calculation for you...10 pounds of chicken breast equals 1400 grams of protein.., this cost me 23 dollars.. a 5 pound tub of bsn syntha 6 will set you back over 50 dollars for about 1056 total grams of protein... So what's cheaper??? And more beneficial?0
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Why is it so expensive for you??? I get this stuff at Costco.. The ground beef is even cheaper! And the fat free mil is 3.23 a gallon..0
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Why is it so expensive for you??? I get this stuff at Costco.. The ground beef is even cheaper! And the fat free mil is 3.23 a gallon..
I live in Hawaii. 10lbs of chicken breast, even at costco, is gonna set me back a pretty penny. Protein powder, however, I can get on amazon for the same price it'd be on the mainland.
Just saying0
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