Quality of food or quantity, which is more important to you?

SonicDeathMonkey80

In, for sugar toxins and food-cancer shaming

jasonmh630

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

#1 -- Cancer is not fed by excessive sugar:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714?pg=2

#2 -- Heart Disease is also NOT caused by excessive sugar:

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/basics/causes/con-20034056

If you're going to make a claim like you did above, it would probably be a good idea to have some sources/studies that back up your claim.

59gi

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

3dogsrunning

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

How about providing some sources of your own?
Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

ETA - I see now you have fixed it.

59gi

I am morbidly obese and quantity is the most important to me. I overeat (my portions were too large) and I had a binge about every 10 days (not tv worthy binging, but you know, a whole bag of candy type thing). Logging, even if I'm not weighing keeps me accountable.

I started just by cutting down the bad stuff. People who are much smaller than me still cringe at my diary. The thing is, after a week or so of the small portions of bad stuff you get hungry. REALLY hungry. Then you have to start the shifting. You have to add in veggies, you have to lower the carbs and dressings and sauces, because if you don't you feel like you are starving because there simply isn't enough nutrition in the bad stuff to keep you going.

I recently made enchiladas. As I entered all the various ingredients one really surprised me. One tortilla was 250 cal. If I hadn't been logging I would have never, ever guessed it to be so high. So next time I buy tortillas, I will be label reading. I'm sure there is a better brand or option, I just didn't know that was a problem ingredient.

Quantity first, but when you are really hungry you will either give up or make different choices.

When you feed your body with healthy food, it curves the appetite. You are doing great

jasonmh630

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

What? The Mayo Clinic is one of the most credible sources for health info.

EvgeniZyntx

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

LifeWithPie

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

Where were your sources again?

You're the one making the claim. It's your job to back it up. That's how science works.

jasonmh630

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

How about providing some sources of your own?
Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

ETA - I see now you have fixed it.

THIS.

LifeWithPie

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

I'm guessing Dr. Oz.

jasonmh630

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

Once again, please provide sources for your claim. You're making the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.

3dogsrunning

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

I'm guessing Dr. Oz.

My money is on Lustig. Or Mercola.

59gi

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

How about providing some sources of your own?
Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

ETA - I see now you have fixed it.

There is all kind information out there, that is all I'm going to say about this issue. Quality of food is important and blood sugar does cause all of the above.

J72FIT

You're the one making the claim. It's your job to back it up.

Bingo...

59gi

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

J72FIT

There is all kind information out there, that is all I'm going to say about this issue. Quality of food is important and blood sugar does cause all of the above.

How can anyone take you seriously if you won't at least try to back up your wild claims?

3dogsrunning

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

Again, you want us to do our homework, how about at least pointing us in the right direction.
I find it interesting that you refuse to share, especially as a "health care professional". You would think you would want to share the truth for the rest of us.

jasonmh630

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

How about providing some sources of your own?
Since when is Mayo Clinic not an authority on health? The other link is a Harvard link.

ETA - I see now you have fixed it.

There is all kind information out there, that is all I'm going to say about this issue. Quality of food is important and blood sugar does cause all of the above.

No, mam. No one is going to take you seriously if you don't provide the back up to your own claims. It's not up to US to prove what YOU claim. We've done our research and provided you with 4-5 links that contradict yours. If you make a claim, back it up... Fortunately, it IS as simple as that.

EvgeniZyntx

Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
#2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet

Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

OMG!!! So am I!!!

(What sources?)