Quality of food or quantity, which is more important to you?

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  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,068 Member
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    Denial is what you are doing, not my problem, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    look at all those exclamation marks

    cite your your sources!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    now will you listen?
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Can you open your diary again so I can see just how healthy your intake is. Since I believe you average around 900 calories a day, which Ms. Healthcare professional isn't very healthy.

    Now where's my ice cream!

    Denial is what you are doing, not my problem, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, you have no sources is what I am getting from this. Just unsubstantiated "truths". Gotcha.

    Dammit! Beaten to the punch twice in one thread. :embarassed:
  • GiveMeCoffee
    GiveMeCoffee Posts: 3,556 Member
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    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Can you open your diary again so I can see just how healthy your intake is. Since I believe you average around 900 calories a day, which Ms. Healthcare professional isn't very healthy.

    Now where's my ice cream!

    Denial is what you are doing, not my problem, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm in denial, yet my diary is open, I can back up my health improvements with copies of my blood work for the past 2 years, PFT results, EKG, Echo cardiogram, and 3 different doctors. But yet you hide your diary and spout out all these claims with nothing to back them up
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Can you open your diary again so I can see just how healthy your intake is. Since I believe you average around 900 calories a day, which Ms. Healthcare professional isn't very healthy.

    Now where's my ice cream!

    Denial is what you are doing, not my problem, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, you have no sources is what I am getting from this. Just unsubstantiated "truths".

    And a problem with the punctuation keys.

    Give her a break, she's a healthcare professional, not an administrative specialist
  • 59gi
    59gi Posts: 307 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    So who do YOU use as an "authority"?

    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    I work in healthcare as well. Does that make me an expert? Nope. Sorry but it doesn't make you one either.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    Food that comes in a bag or a box or a can - will and most always has some form of nutrition to it. Whether it's protien, fat, carb, fibre, sugar, sodium whatever, it's still a nutrient and can be used in a blanced healthy diet.
    No food is inherently bad, it can all be part of a nutritious diet.

    Also, chemicals. Lots and lots of chemicals. And therein lies the problem.

    Apples have lots of chemicals too.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    Yeah, well he's still getting a lot more respect than you from the rest of us.

    At least, until you can back up your claims with something besides punctuation.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    Quality of food very important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1 killer cancer which is fed by a high sugar diet
    #2 heart disease which is due to high sugar diet



    Cancer is not fed by sugar. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714

    Heart disease is not caused by a high sugar diet, but too much sugar can increase mortality in people who suffer from heart disease (there is a difference). http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/eating-too-much-added-sugar-increases-the-risk-of-dying-with-heart-disease-201402067021

    Please engage in intellectual honesty if you're going to make such claims.

    I'm being honest, do your homework. Mayo clinic is not an authority on health.

    Can you open your diary again so I can see just how healthy your intake is. Since I believe you average around 900 calories a day, which Ms. Healthcare professional isn't very healthy.

    Now where's my ice cream!

    Denial is what you are doing, not my problem, yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So, you have no sources is what I am getting from this. Just unsubstantiated "truths".

    And a problem with the punctuation keys.

    Give her a break, she's a healthcare professional, not an administrative specialist

    To be fair, her secretarial skills seem to be commensurate with her healthcare abilities.
  • TheBrolympus
    TheBrolympus Posts: 586 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    He's not being rude and arrogant. He's stating common sense. Making a statement and not backing it up only makes you look ignorant. Simple as that.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.

    Well she didn't clarify her exact title. Maybe she's one of these guys (they are healthcare professionals too)
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  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.

    Well she didn't clarify her exact title. Maybe she's one of these guys (they are healthcare professionals too)
    250px-Shona_witch_doctor_%28Zimbabwe%29.jpg

    Dr. Oz is supposed to be a healthcare professional also...keywords being supposed to...wouldn't trust/listen to him anymore than I'd listen to her.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.

    Well she didn't clarify her exact title. Maybe she's one of these guys (they are healthcare professionals too)
    410px-Shona_witch_doctor_%28Zimbabwe%29.jpg

    Remember that chick that kept saying she worked in health care and it turned out she was in billing?
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.

    Well she didn't clarify her exact title. Maybe she's one of these guys (they are healthcare professionals too)
    410px-Shona_witch_doctor_%28Zimbabwe%29.jpg

    Remember that chick that kept saying she worked in health care and it turned out she was in billing?

    Learning by osmosis :D
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
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    I ask because I see in a lot of diaries things like a breakfast of real junk food and at the end of the day the calorie intake is right but the food quality is soooo wrong. Not that I'm judging, to each his own and I've seen some great weight losses with this method.

    Do you count every calorie and weigh you food? Do you plan out your meals the day before? I do count my calories but have never weighed my food, can't imagine it. Do you think it's important to do that and if so, why isn't counting calories enough? One thing I do religiously is plan my meals a day ahead. That way I'm not starring in the fridge or cupboard trying to figure out what to eat.

    If I meet my macro goals for weight loss or muscle gain (or whatever I am doing at the time) and I am meeting my micronutrient needs, then my "food quality" is bang on Doritos or no Doritos.

    For your information, I don't meet my iron needs without the dark chocolate. And the cookies are in there for a reason too.

    Because cookies are a macro, right? RIGHT?!

    cookie-monster.jpg

    Sometimes you need a high carb that's also a protein. And that's going to be peas or Tollhouse cookies. Sometimes you've had enough B vitamins and fiber in a day.

    I'm totally in agreement.

    I just would rather cookies be a macro. :bigsmile:
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.

    Well she didn't clarify her exact title. Maybe she's one of these guys (they are healthcare professionals too)
    410px-Shona_witch_doctor_%28Zimbabwe%29.jpg

    Remember that chick that kept saying she worked in health care and it turned out she was in billing?

    Learning by osmosis :D

    Exactly...

    I work in healthcare. Therefore I am a healthcare professional. You know what I do, I schedule appointments for patients. Does that make me an expert? Nope and I'd never claim to be one on here. When I say things as facts here, I would back them up. That's just plain old common sense.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    FWIW - you don't have the respect of anyone at this point. Quit trying to scaremonger and provide some sources for the silliness you are claiming.

    ETA: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Oscarinmiami
    Oscarinmiami Posts: 326 Member
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    that is a tough one, I have had this argument more than once...I say good food in is better for you, they say a calorie is a calorie...so as long as you take supplements you can eat chocolate all day as long as you stay in the calorie goal...I don't think so but that is what they say.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    Other sources that tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I'm an Health Care Professional.

    And I am a Computer Programmer, but I am still full of **** if I don't site my sources.


    Rude, and arrogance, will not get you any respect from me, my friend.

    I wasn't looking for your respect. I was just pointing out that saying "I'm an Health Care Professional" does not make you correct. The fact that you are a Health Care Professional and you think the Mayo Clinic isn't a source of factual information scares the **** out of me.

    Well she didn't clarify her exact title. Maybe she's one of these guys (they are healthcare professionals too)
    410px-Shona_witch_doctor_%28Zimbabwe%29.jpg

    Remember that chick that kept saying she worked in health care and it turned out she was in billing?

    That's why I love those terms. So many meanings, yet people tend to interpret them one specific way, which is why people use them. You aren't lying, people are just assuming.

    But no, I missed her.