Quality of food or quantity, which is more important to you?
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For the people that think I've been on this site for a year, they are wrong. Just started using this site, but been a healthy eater all my life.
My weight started to rise because of my portion being too large.
The reason I will not respond to insults is because it's not worth it to me to argue the point. I just made a contribution to a topic, take it or leave, it is up to you.
So the quantity ended up being the most important factor for you.
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For the people that think I've been on this site for a year, they are wrong. Just started using this site, but been a healthy eater all my life.
My weight started to rise because of my portion being too large.
The reason I will not respond to insults is because it's not worth it to me to argue the point. I just made a contribution to a topic, take it or leave, it is up to you.
You haven't been insulted, your claims with nothing to support them have been criticized. As for thinking you have been here almost a year let's see right under your picture it says Aug 2013 that would be just shy of a year.
You also haven't been insulted, if you believe so vehemently then you should be able to show studies to back it up. And I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions... I won't hold my breath0 -
For the people that think I've been on this site for a year, they are wrong. Just started using this site, but been a healthy eater all my life.
My weight started to rise because of my portion being too large.
The reason I will not respond to insults is because it's not worth it to me to argue the point. I just made a contribution to a topic, take it or leave, it is up to you.
So the quantity ended up being the most important factor for you.
Got it.
So she admits it's not sugar...she just ate too much. Mind = BLOWN!0 -
Knee jerk reaction is, of course, quality.
However, on my budget, I just do what I can. So, until I am bringing in more money, quantity. I can buy fresh veggies and fruit, but meat is expensive (my only option for shopping is Wal Mart or a farmer's market - I use the latter for my fruits and vegetables, but they only carry pork where meat is concerned and I seldom eat pork - I have no car or other means of transportation... I mean, yeah, there's the bus - but my social anxiety makes me freak out when I try it). I do try to eat as much fresh food as I can, and try to get in my servings of fruits and vegetables, etc. But most days, I just do what I can and try to at least meet my macros and goals.0 -
For the people that think I've been on this site for a year, they are wrong. Just started using this site, but been a healthy eater all my life.
My weight started to rise because of my portion being too large.
The reason I will not respond to insults is because it's not worth it to me to argue the point. I just made a contribution to a topic, take it or leave, it is up to you.
So the quantity ended up being the most important factor for you.
Got it.
So she admits it's not sugar...she just ate too much. Mind = BLOWN!
I think we found the real folly now y'all0 -
For the people that think I've been on this site for a year, they are wrong. Just started using this site, but been a healthy eater all my life.
My weight started to rise because of my portion being too large.
The reason I will not respond to insults is because it's not worth it to me to argue the point. I just made a contribution to a topic, take it or leave, it is up to you.
Your contribution to this topic was making some strong claims and using exclamation points as your evidence. People asked for more than that and you are were not able to provide anything else, except that you work in health care. And after all of that, you admit that you gained weight by eating too many calories. No worries if you feel it is not worth arguing because you really have nothing to argue about at this point.0 -
Great!0
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Same here. I do what I can to eat nutritious and fresh food, but I'm a student, currently not working, and it can be difficult sometimes to eat good quality food. I try to eat a lot of salad and bananas purely because I can afford that. I also treat myself to other fresh fruit and avocados when they go on sale. But otherwise, my diet is pretty high in pasta and chicken. Ah well.Knee jerk reaction is, of course, quality.
However, on my budget, I just do what I can. So, until I am bringing in more money, quantity. I can buy fresh veggies and fruit, but meat is expensive (my only option for shopping is Wal Mart or a farmer's market - I use the latter for my fruits and vegetables, but they only carry pork where meat is concerned and I seldom eat pork - I have no car or other means of transportation... I mean, yeah, there's the bus - but my social anxiety makes me freak out when I try it). I do try to eat as much fresh food as I can, and try to get in my servings of fruits and vegetables, etc. But most days, I just do what I can and try to at least meet my macros and goals.
That said, both quality and quantity are equally important. It's just that it's easier for me to meet calorie goals rather than nutritional goals (but I certainly try)0 -
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According to this study, if you are obese and had had colon cancer, a diet heavy in complex carbs may lead to a recurrence of the disease... far from causing the disease...0 -
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Although the results point to a potential hazard of a high-carbohydrate diet for colon cancer patients, the take-home message is not a conclusive “Eat less sugar,” said lead author Jeffrey Meyerhardt, associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School (HMS).0 -
This study as well is only if you already have cancer... nothing about causing cancer.0 -
This is from the Daily News... not even gonna waste time commenting...0 -
Knee jerk reaction is, of course, quality.
However, on my budget, I just do what I can. So, until I am bringing in more money, quantity. I can buy fresh veggies and fruit, but meat is expensive (my only option for shopping is Wal Mart or a farmer's market - I use the latter for my fruits and vegetables, but they only carry pork where meat is concerned and I seldom eat pork - I have no car or other means of transportation... I mean, yeah, there's the bus - but my social anxiety makes me freak out when I try it). I do try to eat as much fresh food as I can, and try to get in my servings of fruits and vegetables, etc. But most days, I just do what I can and try to at least meet my macros and goals.
This is related to what I keep thinking with respect to the original question.
Specifically, it doesn't make much sense.
Most people don't really have to choose between quality and quantity. First, from a weight loss perspective, why would you? Second, there is a set quantity (calories) that I choose to eat. I can satisfy those calories with food that I consider high quality (a subjective measure, of course) or with food that I consider low quality. Obviously I choose that I consider high quality and assume that everyone else does too (although how we evaluate that differs because, again, subjective), but this does not mean and there's no reason why it should mean that I'm somehow sacrificing quantity. The quantity is the same. And if "quantity" means volume, not calories, then I of course care about that too--I like having a decent amount to eat--but that tends to mean more vegetables which seem to me high quality. What is this low quality/high quantity food that dieters are allegedly filling up on?
Beyond this, there are of course circumstances in which humans arguably have to choose between quality and quantity. Those are situations where the person in question faces a genuine shortage of food or otherwise lacks access to adequate calories. Under those circumstances, I frankly don't believe there's one person here who would actually choose "quality" over quantity. If you are starving, you'll eat what's available, period, and put a premium on having enough calories even if they come in the form of, say, much maligned bread rather than, I dunno, cake. But perhaps I'm wrong, according to the people here who are so sure that quality is always better, and the people who would choose bread are worthless slobs who should just eat cake.0 -
"Results: Carbohydrate and sucrose intake were not associated with overall pancreatic cancer risk in this cohort."
"The associations of glycemic load and fructose intakes with pancreatic cancer risk were most apparent among women with elevated body mass index (≥25 kg/m2) or with low physical activity."
"Conclusion: Our data support other findings that impaired glucose metabolism may play a role in pancreatic cancer etiology. A diet high in glycemic load may increase the risk of pancreatic cancer in women who already have an underlying degree of insulin resistance."
So according to this study...
1. Carbs and sucrose was not associated with risk.
2. Fructose intake and pancreatic risk were elevated with overweight, sedentary women.
Hardly a smoking gun...0 -
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Wow. Still at it. :noway:0
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http://www.nhs.uk/news/2014/02February/Pages/Sugar-intake-linked-to-heart-disease-deaths.aspx
If you need more let me know!0 -
Although the results point to a potential hazard of a high-carbohydrate diet for colon cancer patients, the take-home message is not a conclusive “Eat less sugar,” said lead author Jeffrey Meyerhardt, associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School (HMS).
YOU FINALLY GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
A bit of both. If something is the MOST NUTRITIOUS THING EVER but is super itty bitty and won't keep me full, then what's the point? I want to eat as much as I can! In order to do that, I HAVE to eat good quality food. So doesn't quantity and quality come hand in hand?0
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Quality! Definitely! Always have been. I just ate too much of it before!0
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I like quality, but quality is subjective, it may mean one thing to me, another to you, yet another to somebody else. Quantity is what fits within my calorie goal for the day.
I weigh my solids and measure my liquids. I meet my macros first and then if I want a treat I have it as long as I am within my calories.0 -
Quality, I make most of my meals from scratch. I have noticed that quality food makes me feel more satiated then food with a lot of chems, sugar, etc. I weigh my food as well, I feel it is more precise seeing as how this calorie counting is essentially a numbers game0
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Although the results point to a potential hazard of a high-carbohydrate diet for colon cancer patients, the take-home message is not a conclusive “Eat less sugar,” said lead author Jeffrey Meyerhardt, associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School (HMS).
YOU FINALLY GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, I don't think you know how to comprehend what you are reading in these instances. You may need some sugar in your life.0 -
"Scientists don’t have a clear understanding why sugar may raise the risk of dying from heart disease,"
–So they admit they don't know...
"Yang said. Sugar may increase blood pressure and weight gain, both risk factors for heart disease,"
–The association seems more about being overweight then it does about sugar consumption directly...0
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