The Real Danger of Smoothies and Juicing
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Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
No, no, no, no, NO!!!!! Fruit does contain sugar. That sugar is fructose. Fructose is almost wholly processed by the liver and thus there are some scientists who suspect a link between over consumption of fructose, even from whole fruits, with non-alcoholic fatty liver syndrome and there was some research suggesting this might be the case. A recent study, however, has indicated that is is not fructose consumption that is linked with non-alcoholic fatty acid disease but instead excess calories of any type. It is likely that we will see a good deal of conflicting information as each new study works toward building a full understanding on the dietary effects of fruit sugars, etc.
That being said, to suggest that fruits do not contain sugar is just plain WRONG.
does fruit contain fructose...yes...but does it have the same effects on the body as refined sugar...NO.....our bodies and cells run on fructose...why do you think God made these fruits for us to eat? the point was bananas and refined sugars are NOT the same... and I never said that an avocado didnt have fat in it...
Pretty sure "bodies and cells" mainly run on glucose, actually.0 -
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
No, no, no, no, NO!!!!! Fruit does contain sugar. That sugar is fructose. Fructose is almost wholly processed by the liver and thus there are some scientists who suspect a link between over consumption of fructose, even from whole fruits, with non-alcoholic fatty liver syndrome and there was some research suggesting this might be the case. A recent study, however, has indicated that is is not fructose consumption that is linked with non-alcoholic fatty acid disease but instead excess calories of any type. It is likely that we will see a good deal of conflicting information as each new study works toward building a full understanding on the dietary effects of fruit sugars, etc.
That being said, to suggest that fruits do not contain sugar is just plain WRONG.
does fruit contain fructose...yes...but does it have the same effects on the body as refined sugar...NO.....our bodies and cells run on fructose...why do you think God made these fruits for us to eat? the point was bananas and refined sugars are NOT the same... and I never said that an avocado didnt have fat in it...
Pretty sure the trees/bushes put the fruit there, as a way to grow more trees/bushes and not for us to eat.
How are refined sugars different? How do our bodies distinguish the difference?
Do you even science?
Only a response to the bolded thought, not anything else in this quoted discussion:
Often times the trees and bushes put fruit there specifically to be eaten because that's the best way to get their seeds transported across distances that the wind would not be able to provide quite as well. This is often the case with sugar laden fruits. It's a mutualistic relationship between a plant and animal. The plant provides the animal with food and the animal provides the plant with seed transport and sometimes seed preparation (the act of going through an animals digestive tract is what activates the seed to germinate once it has been defecated out).0 -
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I probably should have read the whole thing but I saw:
The UK equivalent of Dr Oz. So I didn't read :ohwell:www.dailymail.co.uk/0 -
haha really? this study is BS...the sugars that you get from blending or juicing are NOT the same and do not have the same effect on your body as processed sugar in cookies, sweets etc. ive been juicing and blending for 5 years...Ive lost 100 lbs, Im more fit and active than I have ever been and my blood tests are excellent....
:huh:
I'm juxt wondering what company pays you to say this stuff.
I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
Aha!
I think I found the point at which this thread started heading off the rails...which would be at banana sugar that isn't really sugar because banana.0 -
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
No, no, no, no, NO!!!!! Fruit does contain sugar. That sugar is fructose. Fructose is almost wholly processed by the liver and thus there are some scientists who suspect a link between over consumption of fructose, even from whole fruits, with non-alcoholic fatty liver syndrome and there was some research suggesting this might be the case. A recent study, however, has indicated that is is not fructose consumption that is linked with non-alcoholic fatty acid disease but instead excess calories of any type. It is likely that we will see a good deal of conflicting information as each new study works toward building a full understanding on the dietary effects of fruit sugars, etc.
That being said, to suggest that fruits do not contain sugar is just plain WRONG.
does fruit contain fructose...yes...but does it have the same effects on the body as refined sugar...NO.....our bodies and cells run on fructose...why do you think God made these fruits for us to eat? the point was bananas and refined sugars are NOT the same... and I never said that an avocado didnt have fat in it...
Pretty sure "bodies and cells" mainly run on glucose, actually.
This. Our bodies actually convert fructose to glucose. Carbs too. Everything that is a "sugar," regardless of the type of sugar it is, gets converted into glucose.0 -
Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.0 -
The only real danger is that your tastebuds can't survive flavor of that magnitude!
They're delicious.
Do you even lift, Bro?0 -
haha really? this study is BS...the sugars that you get from blending or juicing are NOT the same and do not have the same effect on your body as processed sugar in cookies, sweets etc. ive been juicing and blending for 5 years...Ive lost 100 lbs, Im more fit and active than I have ever been and my blood tests are excellent....
:huh:
I'm juxt wondering what company pays you to say this stuff.
I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
Aha!
I think I found the point at which this thread started heading off the rails...which would be at banana sugar that isn't really sugar because banana.
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Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
No, no, no, no, NO!!!!! Fruit does contain sugar. That sugar is fructose. Fructose is almost wholly processed by the liver and thus there are some scientists who suspect a link between over consumption of fructose, even from whole fruits, with non-alcoholic fatty liver syndrome and there was some research suggesting this might be the case. A recent study, however, has indicated that is is not fructose consumption that is linked with non-alcoholic fatty acid disease but instead excess calories of any type. It is likely that we will see a good deal of conflicting information as each new study works toward building a full understanding on the dietary effects of fruit sugars, etc.
That being said, to suggest that fruits do not contain sugar is just plain WRONG.
does fruit contain fructose...yes...but does it have the same effects on the body as refined sugar...NO.....our bodies and cells run on fructose...why do you think God made these fruits for us to eat? the point was bananas and refined sugars are NOT the same... and I never said that an avocado didnt have fat in it...
Pretty sure the trees/bushes put the fruit there, as a way to grow more trees/bushes and not for us to eat.
How are refined sugars different? How do our bodies distinguish the difference?
Do you even science?
Only a response to the bolded thought, not anything else in this quoted discussion:
Often times the trees and bushes put fruit there specifically to be eaten because that's the best way to get their seeds transported across distances that the wind would not be able to provide quite as well. This is often the case with sugar laden fruits. It's a mutualistic relationship between a plant and animal. The plant provides the animal with food and the animal provides the plant with seed transport and sometimes seed preparation (the act of going through an animals digestive tract is what activates the seed to germinate once it has been defecated out).
True. I just didn't go that far into the details.0 -
Based on this:I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
And then this:
What?
Nothing wrong with Dairy!
keep telling yourself that...you're headed to an early grave...better get some life insurance
I really hope you're being sarcastic because fruit does have sugar, avocados do have fat and there isn't anything wrong with dairy. I drink milk, eat yogurt, fruit and avocados. Ain't nothing wrong with me nor will I be "heading for an early grave"
or so you think....
this will show you medical and scientific research that backs up my anti dairy claims...but you probably wont want to educate yourself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ
A youtube video of someones opinion proves to me nothing.
Living life sir you are doing it wrong.
Take your udder nonsense elsewhere.
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haha really? this study is BS...the sugars that you get from blending or juicing are NOT the same and do not have the same effect on your body as processed sugar in cookies, sweets etc. ive been juicing and blending for 5 years...Ive lost 100 lbs, Im more fit and active than I have ever been and my blood tests are excellent....
:huh:
I'm juxt wondering what company pays you to say this stuff.
I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
Aha!
I think I found the point at which this thread started heading off the rails...which would be at banana sugar that isn't really sugar because banana.
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Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.
Celery and waffles have negative calories.0 -
The only real danger is that your tastebuds can't survive flavor of that magnitude!
They're delicious.
Do you even lift, Bro?
Yup, even getting my squat back up a little at a time. knee.dat is killin.0 -
Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.
Celery and waffles have negative calories.
Don't forget pickles.
I wonder what happens if you eat all 3 at once?
Will you just implode? Tear the space-time continuum?0 -
Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.
Celery and waffles have negative calories.
I don't know, I'm pretty negative when I eat celery, but pretty pleasant when I eat waffles.0 -
its very healthy...just knock out the dairy...and use coconut milk or almond milk instead of milk/yogurt....my son also loves smoothies...now if i could only get him to drink a green smoothie!
What?
Nothing wrong with Dairy!
keep telling yourself that...you're headed to an early grave...better get some life insurance
educate yourself...watch this video...you will see what science and medical research shows about dairy...dont keep following the sheephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ0 -
Did you actually just say the phrase fruit doesn't have sugar?
Wow.....
"Sugar" or table sugar in its most common sense is sucrose (a half and half combination of fructose and glucose).
Fruits themselves contain purely fructose, a form that has not been processed. Is it still sugar? In its most general sense, yes. So during the process of juicing of COURSE you arent intaking TABLE SUGAR, but are you still ingesting sugar, why yes.0 -
Based on this:I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
And then this:
What?
Nothing wrong with Dairy!
keep telling yourself that...you're headed to an early grave...better get some life insurance
I really hope you're being sarcastic because fruit does have sugar, avocados do have fat and there isn't anything wrong with dairy. I drink milk, eat yogurt, fruit and avocados. Ain't nothing wrong with me nor will I be "heading for an early grave"
or so you think....
this will show you medical and scientific research that backs up my anti dairy claims...but you probably wont want to educate yourself...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ
A youtube video of someones opinion proves to me nothing.
Living life sir you are doing it wrong.
Take your utter nonsense elsewhere.
you obviously are going to continue to be an uneducated fool...who struggles with losing weight...just trying to help you out...but i guess you want your kids to grow up without a dad...
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Based on this:I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
And then this:
What?
Nothing wrong with Dairy!
keep telling yourself that...you're headed to an early grave...better get some life insurance
I really hope you're being sarcastic because fruit does have sugar, avocados do have fat and there isn't anything wrong with dairy. I drink milk, eat yogurt, fruit and avocados. Ain't nothing wrong with me nor will I be "heading for an early grave"
or so you think....
this will show you medical and scientific research that backs up my anti dairy claims...but you probably wont want to educate yourself...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ
A youtube video of someones opinion proves to me nothing.
Living life sir you are doing it wrong.
Take your utter nonsense elsewhere.
you obviously are going to continue to be an uneducated fool...who struggles with losing weight...just trying to help you out...but i guess you want your kids to grow up without a dad...
Dairy is good for me, because God* made the people who did dairy farming/herding over the last 10,000 years evolve the ability to digest lactose as adults, and I'm descended from a dairy farming population. Looking at your avatar, I'd say you are too.
*or natural selection, or both, depending on your inclination0 -
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Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.
Celery and waffles have negative calories.
Yup, if you eat celery in its original form. (lol waffles) All that chewing and digesting. The thermic effect of food is usually 10 percent, but celery is so low calorie so you burn more. Same thing with drinking iced water. Its the process of making use of watever you just ingested that gives it the so called "negative" calories.
But in juices.....what just happened to all that chewing. All you're doing is consuming the nutrients from that celery plus liquid.0 -
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Because bananas and cats obviously go together.0
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Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.
Celery and waffles have negative calories.
Yup, if you eat celery in its original form. (lol waffles) All that chewing and digesting. The thermic effect of food is usually 10 percent, but celery is so low calorie so you burn more. Same thing with drinking iced water. Its the process of making use of watever you just ingested that gives it the so called "negative" calories.
But in juices.....what just happened to all that chewing. All you're doing is consuming the nutrients from that celery plus liquid.
I'm pretty sure celery contains more calories than it takes to digest...
...but not motivated enough to actually confirm this belief, so I could be wrong.
Really doesn't matter to me because celery is as much a food as cardboard is.0 -
Based on this:I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
And then this:
What?
Nothing wrong with Dairy!
keep telling yourself that...you're headed to an early grave...better get some life insurance
I really hope you're being sarcastic because fruit does have sugar, avocados do have fat and there isn't anything wrong with dairy. I drink milk, eat yogurt, fruit and avocados. Ain't nothing wrong with me nor will I be "heading for an early grave"
or so you think....
this will show you medical and scientific research that backs up my anti dairy claims...but you probably wont want to educate yourself...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ
A youtube video of someones opinion proves to me nothing.
Living life sir you are doing it wrong.
Take your utter nonsense elsewhere.
you obviously are going to continue to be an uneducated fool...who struggles with losing weight...just trying to help you out...but i guess you want your kids to grow up without a dad...
The next time my husband starts going off about something stupid, I'm going to drink a whole GALLON of milk.0 -
Wait wait wait...so there's no sugar in fruit and no fat in avocados....because God??? Did I read that correctly?
Pretty sure science disagrees with you...
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Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's millions upon millions of worse things you can eat than fresh fruit and veg; in any form. Do they sate your appetite less than eating them whole? Yes. Should you be conscious of how many calories any smoothies/juices you make contain? Yes. Just like anything else you ingest.
Again, green juices do not contain calories. The nonsense is yours.
Not meaning any offense. Since when did juices of any kind not have any calories? If you throw in 10 stalks of celery, there goes 10 calories. A pound of spinach? another 30. A bunch of carrots? another 40. so about it being nonsense...... There is no such thing as no calories, they might be so small that they are negligible, but the calories are still there. Please back up your "research or knowledge" before you tackle someone else's.
Celery and waffles have negative calories.
Yup, if you eat celery in its original form. (lol waffles) All that chewing and digesting. The thermic effect of food is usually 10 percent, but celery is so low calorie so you burn more. Same thing with drinking iced water. Its the process of making use of watever you just ingested that gives it the so called "negative" calories.
But in juices.....what just happened to all that chewing. All you're doing is consuming the nutrients from that celery plus liquid.
I'm pretty sure celery contains more calories than it takes to digest...
...but not motivated enough to actually confirm this belief, so I could be wrong.
Really doesn't matter to me because celery is as much a food as cardboard is.
It's basically just an edible spoon for peanut butter/cream cheese.0 -
Based on this:I wish a company DID pay me for this...
Fruit doesnt have any sugar in it...sugar is something that can only exist if you refine something...a banana doesnt have sugar it has a holistic nature to it...if you refine the banana you can get sugar from it...but when its a BANANA it doesnt behave like refined sugar because its a banana...they are totally unrelated...
the food industry has trained people to think about 1 nutrient in an item...cant have fruit its got too much sugar...cant have avacado its got too much fat...really? God put these fruits and vegetables on the planet to eat and give us a healthy life...so eat them and be healthy!
And then this:
What?
Nothing wrong with Dairy!
keep telling yourself that...you're headed to an early grave...better get some life insurance
I really hope you're being sarcastic because fruit does have sugar, avocados do have fat and there isn't anything wrong with dairy. I drink milk, eat yogurt, fruit and avocados. Ain't nothing wrong with me nor will I be "heading for an early grave"
or so you think....
this will show you medical and scientific research that backs up my anti dairy claims...but you probably wont want to educate yourself...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ
A youtube video of someones opinion proves to me nothing.
Living life sir you are doing it wrong.
Take your utter nonsense elsewhere.
you obviously are going to continue to be an uneducated fool...who struggles with losing weight...just trying to help you out...but i guess you want your kids to grow up without a dad...
The next time my husband starts going off about something stupid, I'm going to drink a whole GALLON of milk.
NO! You'll d.. Okay. I can't finish that sentence with a straight face. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0
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