Tattoos -- Yay or nay?

_John_

Not the same thing.

you people would say that...

errollmaclean

I have 2. One on my left shoulder and one on my right arm. They're both family related, crest/motto, made sure to double check that I wasn't adopted before I got them, lol. All the males in my family got the same ones.

Tattoos can look great on women!

ironanimal

Not the same thing.

you people would say that...

I will inform my people of this exchange. Avoid dark alleys and hooded figures, Mr. John.

salvationsdying

If you are inked from head to toe, I don't anticipate that we are really going to be compatible as we clearly approach life from different places.

This... is sad to me. I know that was judge people everyday based on looks, but truly, there are wonderful, kind people who are inked from head to toe. Just because someone approaches life differently than you doesn't mean that you won't get along. Anticipating that you won't is really no different than not associating someone based on their religion, their facial hair, their car, or what they watch on TV.

My fiance has 19, they are on the back of his neck, and right under his adams apple down to almost his rib cage, then down his arms. Both arms will be full sleves when finished but he still have empty space, so not there yet. He still has 4 others that I know of he wants. He's got tatts on the back of both hands and on his knuckels one one hand (he counts his knuckels as one). He also is periced up. He works a nice job, 16$ a hour, 60 hours a week with another raise coming soon. When my family first seen him they weren't to sure about him. But after meeting him he gets complements all the time on how well spoken and how polite he is. My 80 year old adoptive grandfather just loved him to death. I'm a stay at home mom because he wants our child to have a parent at home and believes its the mans place to provide (if I wanna work, I do. I just lost a 5yr job not long after our daughter was born. That's when he said just stay home). He has more manners and values then some people who aren't tattooed. The ink on the skin has nothing to do with a persons character. You can have no ink and still be a total jerk.

from all of that I got $15 per hour?... how can wages be so low in the US

I'm seriously more concerned about they survive on 16$/hr with her staying at home. Kudos.. I couldn't do it!!! (I was making that with only one mouth and board to pay for my horse and I was struggling)

Well apprently we know how to budget. We have a house in a really nice area, we are currently buying. All our bills are paid and we have food on the table with no goverment assistance. We have extra money to spend most weeks as well. Its call budgeting. Spend on what you need, pay your bills first, and sometimes go without spending money on things we WANT if its not in the budget. Keep lights off when you don't need them, only use gass when you have to. Don't run the taps when your brushing your teeth all ways to save a few $. None of our utlities are more the 60 a month.

Plus as I said he works 20 hours over time. Which is something like 24$ a hour. So yeah we are doing just fine thanks!

I wasn't passing judgement- I just live in NJ- and I was barely making ends meet on 15.25 an hour. I'm deeply impressed you're capable of budgeting a family and a home with that- there is absolutely no way in this state that I could do that. (Not realistically I don't think) But I'm terribly at budgeting anyway- I pay my bills- when I remember- and I like shiny things and make up- and I'm an impulse buyer and a retail therapy person- so coupled with in NJ what is tantamount to low income- and my ridiculous spending- there is no way I could support a family on that pay check. So not a judgement.

I love you. You put into words what my shocked brain could not. flowerforyou

no worries, glad I could put words down that said what needed saying!!! I talk to much but I feel strongly about art and just putting out what needs to be there because it's what your soul says. Art is art. You shouldn't ever have to apologize or justify because it is what it is.

Sorry, guess I did jump you a bit. Lol. A bit crabby today. We live in ohio so things are a big easier here. I know some places are impossible to work and live on anything less then a 25$ hr job. Sometimes I get a bit touchy about things sorry!

JoRocka

there are so many mistakes to be made in life... why commit to one that may never change and forever brand you as a bonehead

why does having a tattoo make you a bonehead? I mean if you got a stupid tattoo- it represents a part of your life. People like to forget all the *kitten* they did when they were younger- sweep it under a rug- people get silly tattoos when they are young bucks- they can look down at the potential blob and remember their past- and how far they have come. It doesn't always have to be a "look at how stupid I was"

and to which I would say- yep- and look how far I have come. Look at what I've made of my life- and I will keep this part of my childishness with me for always. You can't just sweep it under a rug. And there is nothing wrong with that. I think more people should- then they wouldn't forget where they came from and the mistakes they may have made- the good times they had at someone's beach party or spring break. Everything you do now is a part of you in 15- 25 -30 years- you cannot change that- why pretend it never happened?

Sorry, guess I did jump you a bit. Lol. A bit crabby today. We live in ohio so things are a big easier here. I know some places are impossible to work and live on anything less then a 25$ hr job. Sometimes I get a bit touchy about things sorry!

no worries. :drinker:

remieres93

I have about 17 tattoos. I. Love. Tattoos.

jnichel

I have three. Two hidden, one on my foot. I love them but I’m done… I like them on men too if it’s not too much, tasteful and not all over their body. ;-)

I'll give you $4.83 to see the hidden ones.

RavenLibra

I have one...hidden... when I am bored or the water is cold it reads. WD... BUT when I see a pretty girl it reads.. Welcome to the neighborhood, have a nice day.

Jacwhite22

I personally am not a fan, but I also don't have any issue with people who do have them/want to get them. I have never seen the point for myself personally.

Cliffslosinit

It's a personal choice....I'm afraid they might hurt!!

BlackBetttie

I have six and can't resist a man with good ink!! :drinker:

ASH2038602

I have one on my shoulder, inside of both wrists, both feet, and a half sleeve. I love tattoos for myself. I don't care what anyone else does with their bodies. Except for my son... Who I truly hope doesn't get any tattoos until he is at least 21.

Autk79

I think they are meant for some people , but not everyone. I have seen some really bad artwork. I have one hidden tattoo for my dad and grandpas cancer. Some chics look hot with sleeves and a bunch but I wouldnt. Its so addicting but I stop myself because I know I wont look good covered in them.

chrissyrenee1029

It's a personal choice....I'm afraid they might hurt!!

Oh it does.....a lot.

jnichel

I have six and can't resist a man with good ink!! :drinker:

Have we met?

Oh, wait, you said *good* ink. :sad:

mygnsac

Not for me, but I have no problem with others getting them. The artwork and sentimentality on some is just beautiful.

sc003ro

like anything I think some people pull them off and others dont.....

at my gym everyone has a sleeve....

Derpes

Absolutely a Ney here. People are free to add graffiti or art to their bodies if that is important to them. I wish they would think about any possible negatives before they start. I am an employer and any visible tattoos mean that you probably are not going to get hired. I have never heard an employer say "I hired the applicant because of the cool tattoos" but I have heard one say the opposite.

Is this an excerpt from an outdated HR book?

devil_in_a_blue_dress

Absolutely a Ney here. People are free to add graffiti or art to their bodies if that is important to them. I wish they would think about any possible negatives before they start. I am an employer and any visible tattoos mean that you probably are not going to get hired. I have never heard an employer say "I hired the applicant because of the cool tattoos" but I have heard one say the opposite.

Is this an excerpt from an outdated HR book?

I am also an employer. I don't care about tattoos so long as you are good at your job and good with people.

BUT WHAT THE HELLO DO I KNOW.

usmc01462

oh I hate them. How could you do that to yourself. I would never hire anyone with tattoo's

notoriouslynickole

I'm all for tattoos, but I'd never get one. I am WAY too fickle.

salladeve

Not for myself, I've never been interested in getting one. I do like some on some people, not so much on others {shrug} to each their own.

ItsMeGee3

Yay, love mIne

blukitten

Yay, i have two

Alluminati

Absolutely a Ney here. People are free to add graffiti or art to their bodies if that is important to them. I wish they would think about any possible negatives before they start. I am an employer and any visible tattoos mean that you probably are not going to get hired. I have never heard an employer say "I hired the applicant because of the cool tattoos" but I have heard one say the opposite.

Is this an excerpt from an outdated HR book?

I am also an employer. I don't care about tattoos so long as you are good at your job and good with people.

BUT WHAT THE HELLO DO I KNOW.

The HR person at our company that hired me has some bad *kitten* sleeves. And no it's not a tattoo company, either.
Welcome to the two thousands.

mantium999

Nope. People started getting tattoos to be different. Now almost everyone has one, so I'm different because I don't. And I like that. Besides, why give the authorities another way to identify you? :smokin:

How do you know what the behind everyone's tattoos are?

Okay, tell me what other reason there would be? You get a tattoo but never show it off? What's the point of that? It's a decoration. And when it started not many people were doing it so you were different because your body was decorated. You stood out. It got you attention.

Do you do ANYTHING creative? I don't mean this as an insult (okay, well, maybe slightly), but if you do, then you should understand that you don't write, paint, create for anyone other than you. If someone likes it, then great. But if not, then who cares? I got my tattoo to symbolize my change, my growth, my never ending cycle of life. I didn't get it to show off, I didn't care if anyone else liked it.

Your assumption that ALL people get tattoos for attention is ridiculous. Tell me... is that why you get dressed in the morning? Why you put on makeup? All simply to get noticed?

Yes, I am creative. I write. I write not only for myself but to bring pleasure to people who read my work. Artists tend to do the same thing. They want to bring beauty to the world.

I am not anti-tattoo by any means. If people get tattoos to grow as a person that's fine. But tell me that if someone compliments you on your tattoo it doesn't make you feel good?

I just don't think a picture inked into your skin defines who you are as a person. A complete jerk might have an angel tattooed on their skin but that doesn't change the fact that they are a jerk. It's your actions that define that.

Now with that said I do know people with really well done and artistic tatttoos and they show them off all the time. They are proud of them. Which again, is fine. But you can't tell me that deep down they hope that someone will see that tattoo and like it and compliment them on it.

But you didn't start writing because "Oh hey, I want someone to read this." , did you? I'm also assuming that more artists don't put paintbrush to canvas with the thought of "Oh dear, I hope people like this." Sure, that may come afterwards (especially if you're trying to make a living out of such), but rarely does it come before. Most creative writing classes and books straight up tell you NOT to write for an audience.

I AM proud of my tattoo, because it shows off a piece of who I am and what I've been through. Why would I NOT be proud of that? Do I give two-sh1ts what you think of my tattoo? Oh hell no. I normally forget that I have it, so if someone comments on it I go "Tattoo? Oh, uh, yeah. Thanks."

I can't tell you why other people get tattoos, but the blanket statement of "people started getting them to be different" is flat-out ridiculous. Nor does you not having tattoos make you different or standout. Because for all people know, your butt cheeks could be covered.

Yeah, actually, I do write in the hopes that others will like my work. I do know not everyone will, but yes, I write not only for myself but for others. I work with plenty of artists and they are putting their work out there for others to see. With the hope that others will like it.

When tattoos first became popular, I'm sorry, but many people got them for attention. I will retract the statement that EVERYONE got them to be different, I'm sure others had other reasons and still do. As they got better in quality many people get them for symbolic reasons, not to get attention, I'm not disputing that.

But it's human nature to want to do something that will make you stand out. Getting tattoos, piercings, gauging.. whatever.

Yer doing it wrong.

Artists become artists because they cannot live another day with that thought trapped inside them. They MUST put pen to paper- they MUST put brush to canvas.

Artists are artists because their soul speaks through their medium. Not because they want other people to read their work or see their art. Is that a great side effect? Sure. But they go into buisness doing that because they are good at what they do and people happen to like it.

But non artists don't go into business being artists because they want attention. If what you say is true- then people would become artists all the time for attention- that's simply not the case.

As for me- I am an artist- I am a dancer. I love art- I love dance- I love the creative eye and what people's souls tell me or want to share with the world. That takes shape in many forms. It is neither right nor wrong- if it is true creativity - it is genuine- and there is no direct ulterior motive for it's existence. It exists only because that is one one persons soul needed to express and put out into the universe. If it's popular and makes the artist money- great. But there is a reason the expression "starving artist" exists- people don't do it for money or attention- sure maybe one day- but they do it because that's what their soul says they must do. It's also a reason why undercutting is such an issue with artists. People love doing what they do- they feel badly for getting paid- or people think- well you love doing it- why should I pay you for what you are worth.

I dance- I will always dance. right now I do occasionally get paid to dance. But I will always dance- with or without the money- because I LOVE dancing. And when I dance with abandon it what it is- I am not ashamed of what it is and I put it out there because that's what's coming out at that moment in time.

Who are you to judge that and say WHY?



And moving on to tattoos. I'm a YAY person- but conservatively.
I do think some people get tattoo to make themselves seem like something else. And I do believe there are BAD tattoos- drunk tattoos or poorly thought out chidlish ones. But it doesn't change the fact there are amazing pieces out there.

I'm an artist- I want to see art. I don't like flash- or crappy tattoos that look like they were done by a child. Simple shakey line art- or poor wording is meh to me. But anything that is well throughout and well done- I love- content is almost totally irrelevant to me.

Mine is a book end- it represents a chapter in my life that I'm happy to walk away from and be out of forever. The door is closed- and it represents the person I was- and who I am. It goes with me everywhere I am- and I will have it forever- because that part of my life- happened- and I cannot change that. I'm glad for some of the experiences- but I'm happy to have moved on. My tattoo is as much a part of me as those experiences are.

It has about jackall to do with attention. I find it weird when people mention it randomly. I actually often don't know what to say. , usually I stutter out a thanks.

Do I like showing it off occasionally? sure- I love my back- I work damn hard on it- and I drew my piece- and both myself and my tattoo artist worked very hard on it- so yes am I proud of it- sure- but it don't go shoving it in people's faces. But it's an intrinsic part of me- so sometimes I share- sometimes I don't. Much like sometimes I tell people about those times- and sometimes I don't.

I like Jo's post

CindyMarcuzAdams

Tattoos are great for the body not for the face...

mantium999

Absolutely a Ney here. People are free to add graffiti or art to their bodies if that is important to them. I wish they would think about any possible negatives before they start. I am an employer and any visible tattoos mean that you probably are not going to get hired. I have never heard an employer say "I hired the applicant because of the cool tattoos" but I have heard one say the opposite.

Do you also not hire obese people?

Fantastic question. A colleague of mine once said to me that he would not hire a fat person because, if they are incapable of taking care of themselves, how could he possibly rely on them to take care of the important things that would be assigned to them.

nb23613

YES! Not a requirement but, you better not object to my ink either! ha!!

chrissyrenee1029

Tattoos are great for the body not for the face...

Come on now...you know you think he's hot, lol