Jealous of the Super Obese?
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gastric bypass is surgery.
1 in 7 people experience complications from the surgery, and 1 in 200 people die within 6 months due to complications.
http://www.obesitysurgery-info.com/surgicalmortalitygwclark.htm0 -
I was watching one of those medical weightloss shows the other day. You know the type, where they're really really big and they get gastric bypass and lose a ton of weight with what the episode shows as little to no effort and then they get skin removal surgery and look amazing... and there was this girl who'd been 310lbs, got bypass and lost a ton of weight, got down to like 120/140. She had skin removal surgery and the dr was even able to get most of her stretch marks. She can now wear bikinis for the first time in her life, and as long as she gets one that hides the tummy scar you'd have no idea she was ever fat.
I found myself thinking, if I just gained some weight (ok, 50-100lbs) I could just get surgery and lose it all the easy way. I was actually jealous.
Have you ever had that thought?
Obviously I won't do that but it sounds pretty amazing to me.
No. It's still not easy.....they have to work hard. And why would you want to go through surgery when you don't have to...That's a last resort. There is no easy way.0 -
Uh, no!
I'd have to more than double my weight in order to get one of those surgeries. And who the hell wants to NEED surgery in order to lose weight? Plus, there's nothing "easy" about weight loss surgery. Possible complications, pain, hardly being able to hold food down, loose skin from rapid weight loss.
I'll stick to my slight calorie deficit and lifting, thanks.0 -
Unfortunately, the idea that this is the easy way can lead to stigma for those who have to choose it. It's a major surgery that should only be undertaken if the alternative is a greater risk to someone's life. And as others have noted, there's nothing easy about it.0
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lol I'm obviously lazy or I wouldn't have a weight problem in the first place.
Ummmm...I'm not lazy but here I am. Anyway, I actually worked with a woman who purposely gained 60 pounds so Ontario health care would cover the surgery. For 6 months she walked in with a dozen doughnuts and ate them before work...
Then she had the surgery. But, she had no idea how to eat. At first, she couldn't eat, that's what the surgery does. Everything she ate made her sick. After awhile that wears off a little bit. And every day she came in with a bag of Doritos and a Coke for breakfast. Her justification was that she could only eat half.
She did lose a lot of weight. But, our health care will only take care of the skin if you've stayed below a certain weight for 2 years. So, there she was, she had gained most of it back over the course of a year, but still had this horrible baggy skin that she couldn't afford to get removed.
It's not a magic solution, I'm not bashing it as a solution, but to do it well, and right, it takes just as much effort as calories in/out.
To be fair, I have a friend who did it and did it well, and looks fantastic. But, she still is careful with everything she eats.0 -
I'm not jealous, i'm jealous that they're getting the skin removal surgery free though lol. I chickened out of gastric bypass twice and i think it was for the best. I've seen what it can do to people mentally and physically. I'd rather just do it the old fashioned way and save my pennies for skin surgery if needed, besides i heard that surgery hurts like hell.
Good for you!! (yeah, I think its the free skin removal that gets me, cuz if I lose all my weight my tummy is going to look like a deflated beach ball haha)
You're what? 31? maybe 32? You'd be amazed what your skin will do if you lose the weight and keep it off.0 -
You might want to ponder as to why you have that mindset.
lol I'm obviously lazy or I wouldn't have a weight problem in the first place. (and the tv makes it look quick and easy and who wouldn't want that? they don't show the pain or suffering, just look, I was fat and now I'm not and life is awesome)
What shows are you watching? There's been a few I've seen where the person being filmed dies.
I've never seen someone die on the shows. I can't remember what it was called, it was one I'd never seen before. Showing lots of people doing the surgery. and if they showed someone uncomfortable they'd show them again a week later saying how it was the best decision ever. I have seen many shows where they fail though so I do understand its not foolproof.0 -
Yeah, I know how you feel. But you have to remember how difficult the surgery is. People die from it. And the skin removal poses problems of its own. I don't know anyone personally who has had any kind of weight loss surgery and has kept it off. The only people I know who have lost weight and kept it off did it the old fashioned way, and completely changed their lives. I hope to be the latter.0
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I think you are seriously misguided and need to revisit the process you used to form these opinions.0
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You get that all surgery is inherently painful, right? I don't care how many painkillers they give you, recovery isn't pain-free. If you're happy with the results, you tend not to remember how genuinely painful the recovery was, and most people won't tell the truth about recovery pain (especially when it comes to elective surgery, like WLS, because then people criticize them for complaining or say they "brought it on themselves"). It's always a safe bet to assume that recovery will take longer and hurt a hell of a lot more than anyone tells you, and that's including the doctor.0
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That all comes down to genetics. I have a friend who lost 110 pounds in her 20s and had terribly loose skin all over her body. It never bounced back and she lost that weight pretty slowly and with diet and exercise.I'm not jealous, i'm jealous that they're getting the skin removal surgery free though lol. I chickened out of gastric bypass twice and i think it was for the best. I've seen what it can do to people mentally and physically. I'd rather just do it the old fashioned way and save my pennies for skin surgery if needed, besides i heard that surgery hurts like hell.
Good for you!! (yeah, I think its the free skin removal that gets me, cuz if I lose all my weight my tummy is going to look like a deflated beach ball haha)
You're what? 31? maybe 32? You'd be amazed what your skin will do if you lose the weight and keep it off.0 -
I think you are seriously misguided and need to revisit the process you used to form these opinions.
I think you are taking my question far too seriously. You've never had a moment where the illusion of an easier way was appealing?0 -
Easy way? Let's all say MORON
i don't think resorting to name calling serves any useful purpose on this thread. :huh:0 -
Easy way? Let's all say MORON
Took longer than I thought, but here goes the name calling! awesome.0 -
gastric bypass is surgery.
1 in 7 people experience complications from the surgery, and 1 in 200 people die within 6 months due to complications.
http://www.obesitysurgery-info.com/surgicalmortalitygwclark.htm
1 in 200 is a scary statistic....0 -
Easy way? Let's all say MORON
i don't think resorting to name calling serves any useful purpose on this thread. :huh:
Agreed! (on any thread)0 -
I know someone who did the surgery and one of the side effects they don't talk about much - the bathroom.
Stinky poop and stinky farts.
You can't digest everything and you are the stinky person in the bathroom.
No one wants to be the stinky person in the bathroom.
You can save up for the skin shrinking surgery. Heck, in my town they have groupons for that. But getting rid of perpetually stinky poop? That's probably more difficult.0 -
gastric bypass is surgery.
1 in 7 people experience complications from the surgery, and 1 in 200 people die within 6 months due to complications.
http://www.obesitysurgery-info.com/surgicalmortalitygwclark.htm
1 in 200 is a scary statistic....
It really really is. Since I've never thought about it seriously and it seems to be all the rage these days I wouldn't have thought the risks were that high (there will always be risks, but that seems really really high)0 -
At my current weight, I still qualify. But I don't have the time for recovery from surgery and I want to set a better example than that for my girls. The risk of complications is also a bit high for my taste. Besides for the surgery to be successful, I'd have to learn what I'm learning to do now anyway. So I'm trudging along doing this the non surgical, healthier way. (40 lbs down! Woohoo!)
The only thing tempting about it would be the skin removal. But in the worst case scenario, I can save up and pay for it out of pocket, if it bothers me that bad.0 -
Why be jealous of anyone? Just be your best self, because at the end of the day that's all you can do.
Real talk here: In December I went to a doctor who specializes in non-surgical weight loss (the only one in the southeast, actually) and I had a heart-to-heart with him and told him that if he felt like I needed surgery (which sounds like pure hell to me and I pretty much only would do if they literally said "do this or die" and then I would STILL think about it because it seriously sounds like the worst thing ever) that I would go across the hall and schedule the surgery.
And he told me that it wouldn't be easy and it would take a long time, but I could lose the weight without surgery.
And he's right. I've only lost 20 pounds in the last seven months. However, I am building muscle mass and I have all the tools I need to be successful (proper eating, cardio and strength training routines, access to a dietitian and exercise physiologist whenever I need them). I feel like a completely different person. This must have been the missing link.
If there were any "easy" way to be thin, no one would be fat. We're only in this race against ourselves, not anyone else, no matter how much society tries to trick you into believing otherwise.
You can do it, or you wouldn't be here.0 -
I know someone who did the surgery and one of the side effects they don't talk about much - the bathroom.
Stinky poop and stinky farts.
You can't digest everything and you are the stinky person in the bathroom.
No one wants to be the stinky person in the bathroom.
You can save up for the skin shrinking surgery. Heck, in my town they have groupons for that. But getting rid of perpetually stinky poop? That's probably more difficult.
hahaha I heart you right now0 -
No, never. First of all, it's not gonna be free. Second, it's lazy.
The only time I ever wanted to do something like that was go on the biggest loser and do all those exercises because I love to exercise and I would love to have someone training me properly.
Or the makeover show where they cut your hair and dress you nice and show you how to put on makeup.
That's it.
Cut my gut and restrict me from eating because I choose not to exhibit self-control? No thanks.0 -
At my current weight, I still qualify. But I don't have the time for recovery from surgery and I want to set a better example than that for my girls. The risk of complications is also a bit high for my taste. Besides for the surgery to be successful, I'd have to learn what I'm learning to do now anyway. So I'm trudging along doing this the non surgical, healthier way. (40 lbs down! Woohoo!)
The only thing tempting about it would be the skin removal. But in the worst case scenario, I can save up and pay for it out of pocket, if it bothers me that bad.
Good for you!! You're an inspiration
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Not at all. because when I started this.. I was 310 lbs and the last thing that I wanted was to undergo a surgery so I can "take the easy way out" there is alot of preparation that goes into those surgeries and of course there are risks... That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. Just :
EAT RIGHT
WORK HARD
GET IT DONE
There is no excuse to not do any of the above... I just wish I figured it out sooner in life....
(and before my post gets blown up.. i have family members and close friends who have had it done, i understand in come circumstances it is in fact necessary, I'm not knocking those who have had it done.. and understand that it still comes with alot of work and worry.)
The only thing i could be jealous of is where I am at at the end... If i need the surgery, that is when I will wish I did it in front of the country would be the benefit of skin removal but i do feel like hard work pays off just the same.0 -
Oh, give me a break.0
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Why be jealous of anyone? Just be your best self, because at the end of the day that's all you can do.
Real talk here: In December I went to a doctor who specializes in non-surgical weight loss (the only one in the southeast, actually) and I had a heart-to-heart with him and told him that if he felt like I needed surgery (which sounds like pure hell to me and I pretty much only would do if they literally said "do this or die" and then I would STILL think about it because it seriously sounds like the worst thing ever) that I would go across the hall and schedule the surgery.
And he told me that it wouldn't be easy and it would take a long time, but I could lose the weight without surgery.
And he's right. I've only lost 20 pounds in the last seven months. However, I am building muscle mass and I have all the tools I need to be successful (proper eating, cardio and strength training routines, access to a dietitian and exercise physiologist whenever I need them). I feel like a completely different person. This must have been the missing link.
If there were any "easy" way to be thin, no one would be fat. We're only in this race against ourselves, not anyone else, no matter how much society tries to trick you into believing otherwise.
You can do it, or you wouldn't be here.
You're awesome! Keep up the good work 0 -
The easy way?? what way is the easy way? U mean gastric bypass? LOL sister there is nothing easy about gastric bypass...there is nothing easy about a major surgery and risking your life to lose weight.....u still have to be on a diet...if u eat the wrong thing u are sitting on the toilet for hours in pain or vomiting your guts up...that's called dumping. You can never take ibuprofen or anything like it again so if u are in pain or have chronic pain u are **** out of luck...you have to take handfuls of vitamins for the rest of your life....you sacrifice a lot with gastric bypass....its definitely not the easy way out its a tool for people who cannot manage to lose the weight on their own and keep it off...these are people who have admitted defeat and have admitted they need help.
That girl you saw on the show...she worked hard to get to that place...believe it.
People don't get fat by being happy...they don't get fat by being lazy as a rule...they get fat because they are not taking care of themselves as their body needs them to. Many people suffer from food addiction its not a laughing matter people kill themselves with obesity. Super Morbid Obesity isn't a joke. Its a mental illness.
I think that your mindset is skewed and perhaps u could benefit from some therapy. I don't say that in a mean or condemning way...but maybe its your mindset that is keeping you from your goals...I have been working with the super morbidly obese for well over 6 years and I have also been one....I talk from experience and I walk this walk every day.
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I'm a paramedic and have encountered multiple patients who were obese and had elected to have bariatric surgery years earlier. The weight loss is not always permanent and often these patients complain of suffering from multiple complications requiring multiple follow-up surgeries.0
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I think your Avatar sums you up pretty well IMO.I was watching one of those medical weightloss shows the other day. You know the type, where they're really really big and they get gastric bypass and lose a ton of weight with what the episode shows as little to no effort and then they get skin removal surgery and look amazing... and there was this girl who'd been 310lbs, got bypass and lost a ton of weight, got down to like 120/140. She had skin removal surgery and the dr was even able to get most of her stretch marks. She can now wear bikinis for the first time in her life, and as long as she gets one that hides the tummy scar you'd have no idea she was ever fat.
I found myself thinking, if I just gained some weight (ok, 50-100lbs) I could just get surgery and lose it all the easy way. I was actually jealous.
Have you ever had that thought?
Obviously I won't do that but it sounds pretty amazing to me.0 -
yah no.
I am currently watching a co-worker go through this.
Surgery at Christmas...down 100lbs in 8 months...it's not pretty.
She says so herself....she would be lower if the skin was gone...she is very self conscious about the after effects...and in our province the skin removal is only covered if it causes skin issues...and we aren't even getting into the VLCD diet she had to follow for months that left her eating every 60-90 mins....imagine going to a resturant and knowing you can only eat maybe a bite or two if you are lucky.
And she hasn't learned to eat properly as said before....instead of eating a lower calorie item for a snack she goes for the chocolate covered peanuts....2 handfuls not one...
Do I envy that...heck no...am I jealous...double heck no.
Is she happier? at the moment yes....but her life is not perfect, far from it...now she gets to deal with her issues without the comfort food she was used to...(yes I have known her most of my life).
I do hope however that she is one of those that succeeds and maintains her weight and gets the province to pay for the skin removal because that in itself would be hard to deal with.0
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