who doesnt like when guys gain muscles

rml_16

Anyone else who doesn't like the look of guys who gain allot of muscles and look extremely buff?i prefer the normal look and I don't dig that look.anyone else

You jumped all over her choice of words and forgot to judge her spelling and punctuation. Carry on.

You get strikes for doing that so I had to refrain.

yes you will get reported

You could also get reported for saying a body-type is "gross"

Just sayin'

Good thing I didn't say that.

Yeah, I wasn't talking to you!

ETA the "yes you will get reported" girl is the "gross" comment girl.

Ah. I didn't read far enough back and I'm losing track of who said what. lol

Tanie98

Nice:


Too much:



Guy is extreme enough that steroid use seems likely, which means he's got "roid rage" temper tantrums, no nuts, and inconsistent sexual performance.

Guy 1 look nice but pushing it.Guy number #2 is definitely a big no no:noway:

jimmmer

Anyone else who doesn't like the look of guys who gain allot of muscles and look extremely buff?i prefer the normal look and I don't dig that look.anyone else

You jumped all over her choice of words and forgot to judge her spelling and punctuation. Carry on.

You get strikes for doing that so I had to refrain.

yes you will get reported

You could also get reported for saying a body-type is "gross"

Just sayin'

Good thing I didn't say that.

Yeah, I wasn't talking to you!

ETA the "yes you will get reported" girl is the "gross" comment girl.

Ah. I didn't read far enough back and I'm losing track of who said what. lol

This thread has officially gone bananas now!

HardcoreP0rk

Ah. I didn't read far enough back and I'm losing track of who said what. lol

I know...it's too much. There's so much...something...to sift through

rml_16

So this thread definitely took a turn that I didn't initially see coming.

I think there's definitely something to be said for people watching their language when describing their preference in what they find attractive in other people, but at the same time, I think there's also something to be said for people being allowed to like what they like.

I don't think that the OP should be jumped on for...

I think it is rather common for people to transpose the words normal and average...which is what I think the OP did.

Americans tend to be less than precise in their choice of words, in a way that can be considered merely careless or indicative of long practiced social injustices, or anything in between the two extremes...

I can understand the backlash, though. Such is life on the interwebz.

Mark Wahlberg was described as being in the "gross" category, yet the photo posted is what I would consider "average" for a man.

So, again, I'm not sure what she meant by "normal." And I'm American.

Yea, it's not really cool to call people gross. I haven't really read back and looked at which comments were provided by the OP across the whole thread, so I was maybe too narrowly focused on the first post.

ETA: you know what I mean about American English, though, right? I mean, how many different ways do Americans use the word "hard" for example?

Two. Either something is not soft or it is difficult. I don't know of any other use of that word.

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

But "average" and "normal" are still incredibly ambiguous words in this context that need clarification.

HardcoreP0rk

Anyone else who doesn't like the look of guys who gain allot of muscles and look extremely buff?i prefer the normal look and I don't dig that look.anyone else

You jumped all over her choice of words and forgot to judge her spelling and punctuation. Carry on.

You get strikes for doing that so I had to refrain.

yes you will get reported

You could also get reported for saying a body-type is "gross"

Just sayin'

Good thing I didn't say that.

Yeah, I wasn't talking to you!

ETA the "yes you will get reported" girl is the "gross" comment girl.

Ah. I didn't read far enough back and I'm losing track of who said what. lol

This thread has officially gone bananas now!

rml_16

This thread has officially gone bananas now!

Or maybe you're just happy to see me.

MireyGal76

Nice:


Too much:



Guy #2 is extreme enough that steroid use seems likely, which means he's got "roid rage" temper tantrums, no nuts, and inconsistent sexual performance.

Even this was rather unnecessary. You make assumptions (about the roid rage, tantrums, nuts and performance) which may in fact be true... but if that man is choosing to be that way, then it is not too much for him. And if there are men on this site who want to look like he does, they are more than entitled to do so.

Are the roids the best way to go? No. And that would be the only thing I'd risk a comment on because it is potentially damaging to health, but I imaging that the man who looks that way, is likely well aware of the risks he is taking... just as someone who is obese is aware of the risks to their health.

I have preferences for what I find attractive... but that does not mean that those I am not attracted to are unattractive, gross, or abnormal.

I think that's the key to the whole drama in this thread. Words ARE important. Stating preference is fine, if you state is as preference as opposed to judgement over another's way of life.


ETA: oh... and guy 1 is clearly not right out of a sweat inducing muscle growing workout. I guarantee that if you get him to lift hard for half an hour, all SORTs of wonderful vascularity would appear on his arms, biceps, shoulders, and possibly pecs / abs. Comparing apples to oranges.

HardcoreP0rk

Two. Either something is not soft or it is difficult. I don't know of any other use of that word.

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

But "average" and "normal" are still incredibly ambiguous words in this context that need clarification.

Maybe I'm a little bit more nit-picky, but I see many applications of the word "hard" where there is a much more specific English word that could be used. I find that Americans tend to do this more than anyone else I've met. It's not an insult, though. It's just something I've noticed...as an American, who travels

HardcoreP0rk

Guy #2 is extreme enough that steroid use seems likely, which means he's got "roid rage" temper tantrums, no nuts, and inconsistent sexual performance.

I think that's the key to the whole drama in this thread. Words ARE important. Stating preference is fine, if you state is as preference as opposed to judgement over another's way of life.

WOW. I did not catch that...just..yikes

chivalryder

This is a fantastic troll thread. Congrats, OP.

Troll level: Master.

jimmmer

This thread has officially gone bananas now!

Or maybe you're just happy to see me.

Lol!

Yurippe

Anyone else who doesn't like the look of guys who gain allot of muscles and look extremely buff?i prefer the normal look and I don't dig that look.anyone else

You jumped all over her choice of words and forgot to judge her spelling and punctuation. Carry on.

Because the former is generally allowed but the latter is a certain strike.

Community guidelines (all hail!) are serious business.

Well then, I suppose it's time to take all of this forum business seriously. :noway: I was under the impression that 99% of it was a colossal joke.

rml_16

Two. Either something is not soft or it is difficult. I don't know of any other use of that word.

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

But "average" and "normal" are still incredibly ambiguous words in this context that need clarification.

Maybe I'm a little bit more nit-picky, but I see many applications of the word "hard" where there is a much more specific English word that could be used. I find that Americans tend to do this more than anyone else I've met. It's not an insult, though. It's just something I've noticed...as an American, who travels

I quite literally cannot think of another use of that word. "Not soft" or "difficult." I've never heard another use. Can you give me an example?

ETA: OK. Looked up the definition to see if I could figure it out and there is a third option, which is in this context, "A hard right," which means turning at a sharp angle. But those are the only three.

yopeeps025

This is a fantastic troll thread. Congrats, OP.

Troll level: Master.

Yea it is

sullus

Two. Either something is not soft or it is difficult. I don't know of any other use of that word.

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

But "average" and "normal" are still incredibly ambiguous words in this context that need clarification.

Maybe I'm a little bit more nit-picky, but I see many applications of the word "hard" where there is a much more specific English word that could be used. I find that Americans tend to do this more than anyone else I've met. It's not an insult, though. It's just something I've noticed...as an American, who travels

I quite literally cannot think of another use of that word. "Not soft" or "difficult." I've never heard another use. Can you give me an example?

ETA: OK. Looked up the definition to see if I could figure it out and there is a third option, which is in this context, "A hard right," which means turning at a sharp angle. But those are the only three.

Get a better dictionary. Mine has 14 definitions for "Hard"

LAT1963

Guy #2 is extreme enough that steroid use seems likely, which means he's got "roid rage" temper tantrums, no nuts, and inconsistent sexual performance.

I think that's the key to the whole drama in this thread. Words ARE important. Stating preference is fine, if you state is as preference as opposed to judgement over another's way of life.

WOW. I did not catch that...just..yikes

Those are the side effects of steroid use--you can look them up in medical literature if you like; they are not my "opinion". Whether you choose to accept or deny *facts* is your own business. The side effects of steroids remain fact whether you like them or not.

I said "seems likely" because I can't know if that particular man uses them for sure. If he doesn't, then those concerns don't apply to him. I listed the side effects of steroid use because they help add to why guy #2's look is not attractive to me--it is often associated with other problems of concern to me as a female.

Otherwise, the OP in this thread is asking for *women's opinions* of what is or is not attractive *to them*. I gave an opinion about what is nice and what is too much *for me*. add: The OP did not ask about what men think about their own lifting or look.

T1DCarnivoreRunner

I did not read all of the replies, but I do want to have visible abs because that is what I hear women want to see. However, I don't need to have enormous arms. My ultimate goal is 8% fat, and 40%-45% muscle (minimum).

rml_16

Two. Either something is not soft or it is difficult. I don't know of any other use of that word.

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

But "average" and "normal" are still incredibly ambiguous words in this context that need clarification.

Maybe I'm a little bit more nit-picky, but I see many applications of the word "hard" where there is a much more specific English word that could be used. I find that Americans tend to do this more than anyone else I've met. It's not an insult, though. It's just something I've noticed...as an American, who travels

I quite literally cannot think of another use of that word. "Not soft" or "difficult." I've never heard another use. Can you give me an example?

ETA: OK. Looked up the definition to see if I could figure it out and there is a third option, which is in this context, "A hard right," which means turning at a sharp angle. But those are the only three.

Get a better dictionary. Mine has 14 definitions for "Hard"

Which are?

I mean, the one I looked at had more than three, technically, but several of them boiled down to "difficult."

weightliftingaddict

This thread cracks me up

KseRz

Nice:


Too much:

Here, Ill fix it for you....

Guy #1. hanging out at hugh heffners grotto. had a few extra carbs this week.

Guy #2. Hes at the gym and as a preworkout took some citrulline malate & nitric oxide so he has a really awesome pump with increased vascularity.

But its just easier to make irrational judgements versus rational ones.

Yurippe

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

I had to Google what those words meant outside the US. I haven't heard anyone refer to a butt as a fanny that wasn't over the age of 70. Now when I hear it I'll automatically think the elderly are perverts.

yopeeps025

I did not read all of the replies, but I do want to have visible abs because that is what I hear women want to see. However, I don't need to have enormous arms. My ultimate goal is 8% fat, and 40%-45% muscle (minimum).

8% fat might be to low and looking veiny.

KseRz

Guy #2 is extreme enough that steroid use seems likely, which means he's got "roid rage" temper tantrums, no nuts, and inconsistent sexual performance.

I think that's the key to the whole drama in this thread. Words ARE important. Stating preference is fine, if you state is as preference as opposed to judgement over another's way of life.

WOW. I did not catch that...just..yikes

Those are the side effects of steroid use--you can look them up in medical literature if you like; they are not my "opinion". Whether you choose to accept or deny *facts* is your own business. The side effects of steroids remain fact whether you like them or not.

I said "seems likely" because I can't know if that particular man uses them for sure. If he doesn't, then those concerns don't apply to him. I listed the side effects of steroid use because they help add to why guy #2's look is not attractive to me--it is often associated with other problems of concern to me as a female.

Otherwise, the OP in this thread is asking for *women's opinions* of what is or is not attractive *to them*. I gave an opinion about what is nice and what is too much *for me*.

What is really unattractive is ignorance.

LAT1963

Kz, I'm not reacting to the vascularity, I'm reacting to the bulk.

branflakes1980

Guy #2 is extreme enough that steroid use seems likely, which means he's got "roid rage" temper tantrums, no nuts, and inconsistent sexual performance.

I think that's the key to the whole drama in this thread. Words ARE important. Stating preference is fine, if you state is as preference as opposed to judgement over another's way of life.

WOW. I did not catch that...just..yikes

Those are the side effects of steroid use--you can look them up in medical literature if you like; they are not my "opinion". Whether you choose to accept or deny *facts* is your own business. The side effects of steroids remain fact whether you like them or not.

I said "seems likely" because I can't know if that particular man uses them for sure. If he doesn't, then those concerns don't apply to him. I listed the side effects of steroid use because they help add to why guy #2's look is not attractive to me--it is often associated with other problems of concern to me as a female.

Otherwise, the OP in this thread is asking for *women's opinions* of what is or is not attractive *to them*. I gave an opinion about what is nice and what is too much *for me*. add: The OP did not ask about what men think about their own lifting or look.

I would like to know what "medical literature" you are reading that states "no nuts" as a side effect.

Edited because sausage fingers. . .

T1DCarnivoreRunner

I did not read all of the replies, but I do want to have visible abs because that is what I hear women want to see. However, I don't need to have enormous arms. My ultimate goal is 8% fat, and 40%-45% muscle (minimum).

8% fat might be to low and looking veiny.

I had read somewhere that abs would be visible at less than 9%, so that is where I came up with the goal of 8%. Of course, if I have abs showing at 10% or 12%, then I can stop there.

The_WoIverine

i hate when a guy has bigger muscles than me. thats why i poison them.

LOL this is awesome!!!

And to the OP, that is perfectly fine. Not sure what purpose or goal you're trying to achieve by posting this topic, but to each their own. Funny enough my mom thinks I'm getting to big, and many of my female friends outside of MFP don't like big muscles either. Truth is, I could care less. It is my body and I'm doing it for myself not to impress my mother, my friends or anyone, like yourself for example, who doesn't like big muscles. I enjoy it and that's what counts to me :bigsmile:

rml_16

And, yes, Americans have a dialect but so does every other English-speaking country. I mean, I have to always explain to people when I suggest that they watch certain British television shows that "pants" in England isn't the same as "pants" in the US.

And don't get me started on "fanny."

I had to Google what those words meant outside the US. I haven't heard anyone refer to a butt as a fanny that wasn't over the age of 70. Now when I hear it I'll automatically think the elderly are perverts.

LOL

Yeah ... it's not a word I've used personally but I know what it means. And apparently some Americans have been in Ireland or England and mentioned spanking a child's "fanny" for misbehaving and gotten into some trouble.

jimmmer

I would like to know what "medical literature" you are reading that states "no nuts" as a side effect.

I actually snorted...