Sorry I'm Not Sorry - I gotta rant!
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Here is my 2 cents worth. I mostly eat well balanced meals. Stay with in my calories. I decided to buy a box of lucky charms cerial. I weighed and measured my portions throughout the week, never going over my limits. Come weight day I was up 2 lbs. Coincidence, maybe, but for what other reason did I gain?
More calories in than you're burning, water weight, improper measuring other foods......I eat lucky charms regularly and haven't gained an ounce.0 -
Personally I care just as much if not more about my mental health compared to my physical health. Physical health can come but mental health is harder for me to maintain.
There is no way in hell I can maintain decent mental health if my mind is so preoccupied with "dirty" and "clean" food. Plus, having a social life is super important for mental health.
SO honestly this clean food business drives me insane. Go on feeling morally superior to me. When I die before you (since im "dirty) but way happier we can compare notes then.0 -
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Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.
^All QFT. Have you lost your mind yet?0 -
different strokes for different folks
bio individuality.. how i eat i cant expect others to eat that way.
i eat extremely healthy and clean because i have to i have come to love my way of eating and i agree i do feel better eating that way. my body doesn't tolerate processed foods, but i dont judge my friends who eat differently than me... we all make our choices and my way is not the only way that works. mfp is full of people that have had amazing progress following different styles of eating.i do agree people could eat more whole unprocessed foods, but that has to be their choice. some people count calories eat in moderation and fit it in their day.
i always say i found what works for me. but i respect others ways.. i dont offer advice on their foods unless they ask me and even than i try not to be judgmental i.make small suggestions,but dont expect them to do it my way.. they are not me. they have to find what works for them0 -
Totally explains why Asians in Asia live longer lives, and don't have the same weight issues as Americans, they eat less sodium.......................................................not really. I'm betting the average Asian takes in 4500 mg of sodium a day. You'd think that that much sodium would thin the population down. Nope.I am a student in the healthcare field, You are very correct, it is about what you eat, much more than just calorie intake. If you eat fast food the amount of sodium alone you would intake will put water weight on you, destroy your kidneys, and not to mention cause hypertension, swelling in joints, and eventually flat out kill you, even if you're perfect weight # on scale to your height.
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First off, define Asian. That could mean Mongolian, Japanese, Vietnamese, Pakistani, Filipino, Taiwanese etc. People need to think before they post uneducated crap just to prove a point. Take your average Chinese, they DO NOT eat a lot of sodium. They actually eat a lot of veggies and rice. I have numerous Chinese friends and know this to be a fact. The sodium you "may" be referring to is the garbage they slop together at buffets and call it Chinese or the packaged heart attacks like Ramen with so much sodium. And check your death rates, the average Japanese live no longer than in the US so they don't live longer lives. The reason most "Asians" don't have our weight problems is because a very high percentage live in abject poverty and most only have access to vegetables and rice. And not too many McDonald's in the hills of Szechuan.0 -
Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
You...I like you...0 -
Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.
^All QFT. Have you lost your mind yet?
You...I REALLLLLY like you.0 -
Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
Why can't people understand that a calorie is a unit of messure? Saying calories in VS calories out doesn't work for you is like saying 2 inches in my house is not 2 inches in yours.
As far as what keeps you fuller, that's all preferance and I'm glad to hear you found what keeps you full and not miserable. Keep doing it but as soon as you eat over your TDEE, you will gain weight, no matter what the food consists of.0 -
I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread, but the bottom line is; sugar and processed foods cause inflammation. PERIOD. Inflammation causes a whole host of other problems including weight gain.0
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You haven't eaten at a deficit then. It is physically impossible for your body to take in less calories than it expends and not lose weight. I am being literal here. It is physically impossible.Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
You weren't at a deficit, simple as that.
i feel like i should insert a special snowflake gif here, but i will refrain.
EDIT: nevermind....already been done. lol
as stated above, you were not eating at a deficit.
are you measuring and weighing EVERYTHING? if not, then how do you know?
people are notoriously bad estimators...i was SHOCKED when i saw what a true 1/2 cup of ice cream looked like.
im sorry that people like me make you dislike this site. that certainly wasnt my intention. i guess my hope is that those who struggle with trying to stay within restrictive guidelines and struggle are able to come to the realization that, hey....you can TOTALLY do this and still eat the things you love. hell, it may make it EASIER. it certainly does for me.
looks like youre on the newer side to MFP, so i would like to provide these links to you. read them if youd like, or skip them and focus on eating "healthy". your call.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1346163-change-your-mindset
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think0 -
Glazed?? LIke donuts? Those are healthy right? I mean.....no one can dispute that, right???
I'm a donut.
Mmmmmmm!
Agreed!! You are deliciousness wrapped in awesomeness!! I'd take a bite outta you even if you weren't healthy :blushing:
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Born again clean eaters ....... Need I say more
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I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread, but the bottom line is; sugar and processed foods cause inflammation. PERIOD. Inflammation causes a whole host of other problems including weight gain.
Do you even science?0 -
I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread, but the bottom line is; sugar and processed foods cause inflammation. PERIOD. Inflammation causes a whole host of other problems including weight gain.
Strong first post. Lol.0 -
This is exactly why so many people try MFP...fail....try again...fail...people will find anything they can to eat what they want and call it healthy...0
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I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread, but the bottom line is; sugar and processed foods cause inflammation. PERIOD. Inflammation causes a whole host of other problems including weight gain.
Inflammation of what?0 -
This is a Clean Eating, Special Snowflake and Mean People thread all rolled into one.
All we need (unless I missed it) is detoxing/cleansing and either a I'm Out but not really since I'll come back and comment or a Haters comment and we'll be all set for a bingo...I just know it!0 -
Certainly everyone should eat healthier, but that's not reality today. So when you eliminate fast food, processed food, bread, sugar, fat, you end up with a variety of rabbit food. In essence you're scaring the bee gees out of someone who is trying to lose weight. You, in their mind are taking away their best friends, insuring that they'll fail before they even get started.
It is a fact that you can lose weight by eating fast food, processed food, bread, sugar, and fat, as long as one stays within their MFP calorie goal. It's definitely not the healthiest way to the clean you're referring to, I think most people would agree there.0 -
This is exactly why so many people try MFP...fail....try again...fail...people will find anything they can to eat what they want and call it healthy...
Oh? So my success at losing 60lbs is a lie (as well as the keeping it off for the most part for a few years) because I couldn't do it being restrictive but rather flexible? Not to mention me getting out of a few deficiencies I was facing because of the restrictiveness and my overall health improvement (especially my back issues)?
Oh. Okay.0 -
So starting today I am going to eat clean. I will use extra soap and wash all my foods twice before I put them in my mouth. This ensure that my Double-Double from In-n-Out is still eating clean.0
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This is a Clean Eating, Special Snowflake and Mean People thread all rolled into one.
All we need (unless I missed it) is detoxing/cleansing and either a I'm Out but not really since I'll come back and comment or a Haters comment and we'll be all set for a bingo...I just know it!
Oh, and I just cleansed about an hour ago! but given the way my bowels feel this might turn into more than a 1-day cleanse.0 -
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I see people on my friends list losing weight and eating lot's of processed/fast food. I think eating healthy and losing weight can be two different things Eating clean is definitely good for you but I see people lose weight eating fast food and crap as well. I think basically we are talking about two different things. A deficit eating crap will allow you to lose weight but absolutely eating clean with lot's of fruits and vegetables is a healthier way to do it.0
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I like you! Dairy fat and sugar (in the form of frozen, yummy goodness) are essential to my mental health. Seriously, when I start restricting too much and focusing on "clean" eating, I end up in a really dark place.Personally I care just as much if not more about my mental health compared to my physical health. Physical health can come but mental health is harder for me to maintain.
There is no way in hell I can maintain decent mental health if my mind is so preoccupied with "dirty" and "clean" food. Plus, having a social life is super important for mental health.
SO honestly this clean food business drives me insane. Go on feeling morally superior to me. When I die before you (since im "dirty) but way happier we can compare notes then.0 -
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Why can't we all just agree to disagree on this? Why can't people understand that you can literally convert 0 people to your point of view by telling them how wrong and stupid they are for thinking what they think?0
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You shoudn't be sorry!
I just 'tried' to have this conversation with someone - you get out what you put in. Eat poorly, workout half *kitten*, lose no weight, feel bad, then give up! Eat better, kick a&& workouts, lose weight, feel great, keep going - increase your health outlook!
I admit, we all reach this point in our own time but don't knock it until you try it!0 -
I see people on my friends list losing weight and eating lot's of processed/fast food. I think eating healthy and losing weight can be two different things Eating clean is definitely good for you but I see people lose weight eating fast food and crap as well. I think basically we are talking about two different things. A deficit eating crap will allow you to lose weight but absolutely eating clean with lot's of fruits and vegetables is a healthier way to do it.
If someone is eating "crap" you should really tell them to seek help.0
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