Sorry I'm Not Sorry - I gotta rant!
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Unhappy, unhealthy, unfit person here checking in.
Sup there, my gelato princess?
Nuffin. Just #eatingclean
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You haven't eaten at a deficit then. It is physically impossible for your body to take in less calories than it expends and not lose weight. I am being literal here. It is physically impossible.Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
You weren't at a deficit, simple as that.
i feel like i should insert a special snowflake gif here, but i will refrain.
EDIT: nevermind....already been done. lol
as stated above, you were not eating at a deficit.
are you measuring and weighing EVERYTHING? if not, then how do you know?
people are notoriously bad estimators...i was SHOCKED when i saw what a true 1/2 cup of ice cream looked like.
im sorry that people like me make you dislike this site. that certainly wasnt my intention. i guess my hope is that those who struggle with trying to stay within restrictive guidelines and struggle are able to come to the realization that, hey....you can TOTALLY do this and still eat the things you love. hell, it may make it EASIER. it certainly does for me.
looks like youre on the newer side to MFP, so i would like to provide these links to you. read them if youd like, or skip them and focus on eating "healthy". your call.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1346163-change-your-mindset
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
Real mature guys...laugh it up at my weight loss struggle.
Am I new to this site? No. I started a new account recently when I decided to change my lifestyle/eating habits after I had my last child.
So that's cool. I'll just go ahead and eat nothing but pizza and honey buns and drink nothing but mountain dew...because you said I will lose weight doing so. Hah. Yeah I don't think so. I am not saying calories are not important. If I believed that I wouldn't count them religiously. But I am not going to sit here and say that they are the only thing that affects weight loss. You seriously don't believe carbs, sugar, sodium and fat have anything to do with weight loss? I am sorry, but I call BS. And I am not crying the blues about "what I've been through", so spare me your condescending crap. If you can eat complete garbage and lose weight then I applaud you. That is fantastic! And I envy you. Unfortunately, I can't do that. So basically I am done here. Thanks for your kind words. Really was the icing on top of a lovely day.0 -
I don't know about clean eaters.... I have a tendency to come across high and mighty all on my own without any help...and for that I apologize.And lol for those that say "clean eaters" don't come off all high and mighty.0 -
I'm thinking I'm struggling to lose now because I've gone back to eating those processed foods. The boxed kind, the grab a can go kind. I really need to get back to the fresh from your garden veggies and fruits. I need to get back to shopping the outer fringes of the grocery store. Yes I think this is a great plan.....for me.0
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"You are what you eat!" REALLY??
Cows eat grass and hay (They are still cows)
Horses eat grass and hay (They are still horses)
Robins eat worms (They are still robins)
Moles eat worms (They are still moles)
I diet my way, you diet yours! To each his own!0 -
You haven't eaten at a deficit then. It is physically impossible for your body to take in less calories than it expends and not lose weight. I am being literal here. It is physically impossible.Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
You weren't at a deficit, simple as that.
i feel like i should insert a special snowflake gif here, but i will refrain.
EDIT: nevermind....already been done. lol
as stated above, you were not eating at a deficit.
are you measuring and weighing EVERYTHING? if not, then how do you know?
people are notoriously bad estimators...i was SHOCKED when i saw what a true 1/2 cup of ice cream looked like.
im sorry that people like me make you dislike this site. that certainly wasnt my intention. i guess my hope is that those who struggle with trying to stay within restrictive guidelines and struggle are able to come to the realization that, hey....you can TOTALLY do this and still eat the things you love. hell, it may make it EASIER. it certainly does for me.
looks like youre on the newer side to MFP, so i would like to provide these links to you. read them if youd like, or skip them and focus on eating "healthy". your call.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1346163-change-your-mindset
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
Real mature guys...laugh it up at my weight loss struggle.
Am I new to this site? No. I started a new account recently when I decided to change my lifestyle/eating habits after I had my last child.
So that's cool. I'll just go ahead and eat nothing but pizza and honey buns and drink nothing but mountain dew...because you said I will lose weight doing so. Hah. Yeah I don't think so. I am not saying calories are not important. If I believed that I wouldn't count them religiously. But I am not going to sit here and say that they are the only thing that affects weight loss. You seriously don't believe carbs, sugar, sodium and fat have anything to do with weight loss? I am sorry, but I call BS. And I am not crying the blues about "what I've been through", so spare me your condescending crap. If you can eat complete garbage and lose weight then I applaud you. That is fantastic! And I envy you. Unfortunately, I can't do that. So basically I am done here. Thanks for your kind words. Really was the icing on top of a lovely day.
carbs, sodium, sugar, etc have to do with weight loss because they are calories. I used to say I couldn't do something..then I realized the reason I couldn't was because I told myself I couldn't.
Food for thought..or not because it probably has sodium, sugar, carbs and fat.0 -
Personally I care just as much if not more about my mental health compared to my physical health. Physical health can come but mental health is harder for me to maintain.
There is no way in hell I can maintain decent mental health if my mind is so preoccupied with "dirty" and "clean" food. Plus, having a social life is super important for mental health.
SO honestly this clean food business drives me insane. Go on feeling morally superior to me. When I die before you (since im "dirty) but way happier we can compare notes then.
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whats wrong with pickles? If you choose carefully they can be a good addition.
A large pickle has a gram of sodium in it. A GRAM.
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Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
If your calories in/calories out didn't work for you - have you been able to establish what your 'maintenance' calories are - either through trial and error or a medical test?
Online calculators don't always tell the whole picture of your BMR. Although they are a good starting point. According to online calculators - my BMR was off by more than 20% from my test results. Everyone is different.0 -
Your rant is justified Sis, but moderation in all things is the key.
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This looks like a good enough dumpster fire to throw my rant in as well.
I HATE EARLY DAYS!!!!!!0 -
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You haven't eaten at a deficit then. It is physically impossible for your body to take in less calories than it expends and not lose weight. I am being literal here. It is physically impossible.Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
You weren't at a deficit, simple as that.
i feel like i should insert a special snowflake gif here, but i will refrain.
EDIT: nevermind....already been done. lol
as stated above, you were not eating at a deficit.
are you measuring and weighing EVERYTHING? if not, then how do you know?
people are notoriously bad estimators...i was SHOCKED when i saw what a true 1/2 cup of ice cream looked like.
im sorry that people like me make you dislike this site. that certainly wasnt my intention. i guess my hope is that those who struggle with trying to stay within restrictive guidelines and struggle are able to come to the realization that, hey....you can TOTALLY do this and still eat the things you love. hell, it may make it EASIER. it certainly does for me.
looks like youre on the newer side to MFP, so i would like to provide these links to you. read them if youd like, or skip them and focus on eating "healthy". your call.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1346163-change-your-mindset
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
Real mature guys...laugh it up at my weight loss struggle.
Am I new to this site? No. I started a new account recently when I decided to change my lifestyle/eating habits after I had my last child.
So that's cool. I'll just go ahead and eat nothing but pizza and honey buns and drink nothing but mountain dew...because you said I will lose weight doing so. Hah. Yeah I don't think so. I am not saying calories are not important. If I believed that I wouldn't count them religiously. But I am not going to sit here and say that they are the only thing that affects weight loss. You seriously don't believe carbs, sugar, sodium and fat have anything to do with weight loss? I am sorry, but I call BS. And I am not crying the blues about "what I've been through", so spare me your condescending crap. If you can eat complete garbage and lose weight then I applaud you. That is fantastic! And I envy you. Unfortunately, I can't do that. So basically I am done here. Thanks for your kind words. Really was the icing on top of a lovely day.
you have GOT to be kidding me.
was i mean? was i bullying?
i get the feeling you are one of those people who loves to play the victim.
if you think what i posted was condescending, please refrain from any other online forums. you need a thicker skin, sweetie.
if you want people to shower you in glitter and unicorn hugs and "way-to-go"s, you have come to the wrong place.
those links i posted are VERY helpful and written by people who have had great success here.
i wish you all the best on your weight loss journey and hope you find success in it, however that may be.0 -
I agree with the original poster. Bravo!
For example, recent research has shown that artificial sweeteners, while technically counting as zero calories, may cause spikes in blood sugar and lead to obesity, diabetes, and so forth. In this case, the math is not as simple as calories in/calories out and macros.
While I am not a clean eater or a champion of Paleo, there is much to be said in the research for a sensible diet primarily based on vegetables, lean protein, ,low-glycemic carbs, and some fruits.
I also say, in advance, that I am not sorry if anyone finds this "offensive" and engages in another ad infinitum, ad nauseam round of faux outrage,
I do not come here to instagram rainbows and puppies but to speak the frank truth.
Warm regards,
-G.e.C0 -
You haven't eaten at a deficit then. It is physically impossible for your body to take in less calories than it expends and not lose weight. I am being literal here. It is physically impossible.Yeah...I get it. I agree with you. I have to pay attention to all the macros, not just calories. If I focus on strictly calories in/calories out, I won't lose.
if you burn more than you consume....you will.
If it were that easy, I would be skinny. If that works for you, then that is excellent. I must be the exception to the rule. I have tried to lose weight every way imaginable (with the exception of surgery). I'm not saying I eat clean. I still eat some processed foods. I am just saying, I personally need to pay attention to the whole picture in order to be successful. Counting calories alone will sabotage me every time. I have learned this by trial and error. I am sorry if you don't believe me, but it is true.
so then you're not arguing against the fact that if one burns more than they consume, they will lose weight.
your issue is that you cant seem to keep your cals below your burn.
fair enough.
i thought you were saying that you were eating at a deficit and not losing weight.
I am arguing that I have eaten at a deficit before and not lost weight. I am also saying that eating processed foods doesn't fill me up like healthier options do. I am also saying that I have previously gone over my calorie limit due to still being hungry an hour after eating processed foods. I am also saying that I have damn near starved myself, and still not lost weight.
My question is, why are you disagreeing with how my body works? It seems that you know nothing about me or my ability to lose weight...and people like YOU make me dislike this site. Not people like the OP.
You weren't at a deficit, simple as that.
i feel like i should insert a special snowflake gif here, but i will refrain.
EDIT: nevermind....already been done. lol
as stated above, you were not eating at a deficit.
are you measuring and weighing EVERYTHING? if not, then how do you know?
people are notoriously bad estimators...i was SHOCKED when i saw what a true 1/2 cup of ice cream looked like.
im sorry that people like me make you dislike this site. that certainly wasnt my intention. i guess my hope is that those who struggle with trying to stay within restrictive guidelines and struggle are able to come to the realization that, hey....you can TOTALLY do this and still eat the things you love. hell, it may make it EASIER. it certainly does for me.
looks like youre on the newer side to MFP, so i would like to provide these links to you. read them if youd like, or skip them and focus on eating "healthy". your call.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1346163-change-your-mindset
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
Real mature guys...laugh it up at my weight loss struggle.
Am I new to this site? No. I started a new account recently when I decided to change my lifestyle/eating habits after I had my last child.
So that's cool. I'll just go ahead and eat nothing but pizza and honey buns and drink nothing but mountain dew...because you said I will lose weight doing so. Hah. Yeah I don't think so. I am not saying calories are not important. If I believed that I wouldn't count them religiously. But I am not going to sit here and say that they are the only thing that affects weight loss. You seriously don't believe carbs, sugar, sodium and fat have anything to do with weight loss? I am sorry, but I call BS. And I am not crying the blues about "what I've been through", so spare me your condescending crap. If you can eat complete garbage and lose weight then I applaud you. That is fantastic! And I envy you. Unfortunately, I can't do that. So basically I am done here. Thanks for your kind words. Really was the icing on top of a lovely day.
Sodium has NOTHING to do with fat loss.
And that's the only "weight loss" I care about. If I gain weight because I gain muscle, well, yay for me!
Carbs, sugar, and fat (and protein) only matter in the context of your macros, unless you are having metabolic issues. Which are sometimes triggered by obesity. However, one of the most solid ways of addressing that is through exercise.
If you are still experiencing "sugar addiction" or ravenous hunger no matter how much you eat/don't eat/exercise, you might want to temporarily reduce added sugar/carbs until you get to a healthier body fat %.0 -
I agree with the original poster. Bravo!
For example, recent research has shown that artificial sweeteners, while technically counting as zero calories, may cause spikes in blood sugar and lead to obesity, diabetes, and so forth. In this case, the math is not as simple as calories in/calories out and macros.
While I am not a clean eater or a champion of Paleo, there is much to be said in the research for a sensible diet primarily based on vegetables, lean protein, ,low-glycemic carbs, and some fruits.
I also say, in advance, that I am not sorry if anyone finds this "offensive" and engages in another ad infinitum, ad nauseam round of faux outrage,
I do not come here to instagram rainbows and puppies but to speak the frank truth.
Warm regards,
-G.e.C
Your truth is a LIE0 -
Unhappy, unhealthy, unfit person here checking in.
Sup there, my gelato princess?
Nuffin. Just #eatingclean
OMG ME TOO!
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So that's cool. I'll just go ahead and eat nothing but pizza and honey buns and drink nothing but mountain dew...because you said I will lose weight doing so.
I've lost 27lbs eating pizza and drinking mt dew....0 -
Unhappy, unhealthy, unfit person here checking in.
Sup there, my gelato princess?
Nuffin. Just #eatingclean
OMG ME TOO!
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I agree with the original poster. Bravo!
For example, recent research has shown that artificial sweeteners, while technically counting as zero calories, may cause spikes in blood sugar and lead to obesity, diabetes, and so forth. In this case, the math is not as simple as calories in/calories out and macros.
While I am not a clean eater or a champion of Paleo, there is much to be said in the research for a sensible diet primarily based on vegetables, lean protein, ,low-glycemic carbs, and some fruits.
I also say, in advance, that I am not sorry if anyone finds this "offensive" and engages in another ad infinitum, ad nauseam round of faux outrage,
I do not come here to instagram rainbows and puppies but to speak the frank truth.
Warm regards,
-G.e.C
False. Diet soda causes spikes in BEING FREAKING AWESOME0 -
I agree with the original poster. Bravo!
For example, recent research has shown that artificial sweeteners, while technically counting as zero calories, may cause spikes in blood sugar and lead to obesity, diabetes, and so forth. In this case, the math is not as simple as calories in/calories out and macros.
While I am not a clean eater or a champion of Paleo, there is much to be said in the research for a sensible diet primarily based on vegetables, lean protein, ,low-glycemic carbs, and some fruits.
I also say, in advance, that I am not sorry if anyone finds this "offensive" and engages in another ad infinitum, ad nauseam round of faux outrage,
I do not come here to instagram rainbows and puppies but to speak the frank truth.
Warm regards,
-G.e.C
False. Diet soda causes spikes in BEING FREAKING AWESOME
QFT0 -
I agree with the original poster. Bravo!
For example, recent research has shown that artificial sweeteners, while technically counting as zero calories, may cause spikes in blood sugar and lead to obesity, diabetes, and so forth. In this case, the math is not as simple as calories in/calories out and macros.
While I am not a clean eater or a champion of Paleo, there is much to be said in the research for a sensible diet primarily based on vegetables, lean protein, ,low-glycemic carbs, and some fruits.
I also say, in advance, that I am not sorry if anyone finds this "offensive" and engages in another ad infinitum, ad nauseam round of faux outrage,
I do not come here to instagram rainbows and puppies but to speak the frank truth.
Warm regards,
-G.e.C
False. Diet soda causes spikes in BEING FREAKING AWESOME
QFT
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What if I just like it when my BF calls me a dirty eater? A dirty, dirty, bad eater...0
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Unhappy, unhealthy, unfit person here checking in.
Sup there, my gelato princess?
Nuffin. Just #eatingclean
OMG ME TOO!
Michael Jordan eats hot dogs, and Spongebob Thighgap eats chocolate... Hmmmm
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Bow chika bow wowWhat if I just like it when my BF calls me a dirty eater? A dirty, dirty, bad eater...0 -
You are absolutely right.0
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"You are what you eat!" REALLY??
Cows eat grass and hay (They are still cows)
Horses eat grass and hay (They are still horses)
Robins eat worms (They are still robins)
Moles eat worms (They are still moles)
I diet my way, you diet yours! To each his own!
today I'm a protein bar, no wonder I feel so chewed up0 -
So that's cool. I'll just go ahead and eat nothing but pizza and honey buns and drink nothing but mountain dew...because you said I will lose weight doing so.
well, it's not really him that said you will lose weight doing so. nor I. Nor "we". It is science. science says that if you consume less calories than you burn you will lose weight. but if you are smarter than science well you go right ahead.
i know you are feeling ganged up on right now but skull is cool people and those were excellent links that I hope you will take the time to read after you calm down a bit.
really think about what you are defending and mad at right now. do you really want your position to be "I defend the super hard super restrictive way to lose weight where all the foods are sucky, dry *kitten* salads, and gross versions of things I used to love." Or would you like it if your position on wieght loss could be. "Food is good. I can enjoy some of what a want, a little of what I love, and a lot of what is good for me while allowed added touches to make it enjoyable, all while not alienating every single person I know."0 -
AgreedThis post is not going to end well.0
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