MFP has really changed
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I'm sorry, but I've spent a good bulk of my 1,000 posts trying to give others insightful advice only to be told that I have no right to do that, just because I'm not telling them what they want to hear.
This site doesn't suck because of the group of people that sprinkle their knowledge where it needs to be sprinkled, it's ruined by people who try too hard to take everything personally. People who want to find something to complain about and find a way to be upset.
They want to use others as a crutch to try to "prove" why they haven't been successful.0 -
I started on this site for the first time about three years ago. At that time it was a wonderful place to get motivation and support. I found a lot of nice and helpful people. This site is suppose to be about supporting each other, but more and more I see people being less supportive and just down right mean. Some users seem to have an attitude that they are better because they have been a successful where another user wasn't as successful or is taking just a little more time.
I have read multiple post today where a person asked a simple question and they were ridiculed for it. One poor girl simply asked what was the difference between light cleaning and heavy cleaning. That's all she wanted to know, but there were post after post about how she shouldn't log cleaning. It's not anyone's right to tell another person what they should and shouldn't log. If I decided to log "walking to my fridge to get a snack" it's no one's business but my own.
I think some users are forgetting the reasons for a site like this. I also want to make it clear that I'm saying "some users", because there are still a lot of genuinely nice people on here.
We all need to be kind to one another. Most of us have all been in the same situation and for the few of you that have always been fit and use the site to keep track of your fitness then you need to understand that it doesn't come as easy to some as it does to you. For the ones that have been overweight and out of shape remember where you have come from and how you felt in the beginning.
It shouldn't matter if you are morbidly obese, too thin, or have never had an issue. We are all here for the same reason and that's to be the best us we can be. So, as I said before be kind to one another or you're disrespecting the site, the members, and yourself. It's fantastic to look good but real beauty still comes from within.
Most of the responses are not mean. They offer solid, good advice that differs from what the OP wanted to hear which results in the OP getting overly defensive. Maybe some of the advice is a bit blunt and direct, but sometimes that's how people realize the right answer and maybe even change their path towards real success.
This is the internet. Not everything is happy rainbows and butterflies.
Oh, and gifs.
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I started on this site for the first time about three years ago. At that time it was a wonderful place to get motivation and support. I found a lot of nice and helpful people. This site is suppose to be about supporting each other, but more and more I see people being less supportive and just down right mean. Some users seem to have an attitude that they are better because they have been a successful where another user wasn't as successful or is taking just a little more time.
I have read multiple post today where a person asked a simple question and they were ridiculed for it. One poor girl simply asked what was the difference between light cleaning and heavy cleaning. That's all she wanted to know, but there were post after post about how she shouldn't log cleaning. It's not anyone's right to tell another person what they should and shouldn't log. If I decided to log "walking to my fridge to get a snack" it's no one's business but my own.
I think some users are forgetting the reasons for a site like this. I also want to make it clear that I'm saying "some users", because there are still a lot of genuinely nice people on here.
We all need to be kind to one another. Most of us have all been in the same situation and for the few of you that have always been fit and use the site to keep track of your fitness then you need to understand that it doesn't come as easy to some as it does to you. For the ones that have been overweight and out of shape remember where you have come from and how you felt in the beginning.
It shouldn't matter if you are morbidly obese, too thin, or have never had an issue. We are all here for the same reason and that's to be the best us we can be. So, as I said before be kind to one another or you're disrespecting the site, the members, and yourself. It's fantastic to look good but real beauty still comes from within.
I'm gonna try to address this without making it a whole thing.
Yes, you can log whatever you want. But when you ask for advice, you'll get advice. And anyone who cares is gonna tell you logging things as exercise that aren't really exercise is a bad idea.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's good advice. And that's the problem. Some people want advice, some people want to be told they're doing everything right no matter what.
I've seen people be unnecessarily rude, I've seen people be extraordinarily kind. Just like life. It's no different here. It's everyone's choice if they want to focus on the positive or the negative.
#truth
I can do whatever the heck I want/log when it comes to my diary. But if I post a question on a thread I need to be open for all comments/opinions. IMO MFP is supportive. I look forward to logging in everyday. True, I spend more time in my own Newsfeed than the forums but regardless, the accountability I get from my MFP friends is worth being on here.0 -
I agree with OP I mean Have you read an article and there was like 5 tips to get healthier today, one way to do it is to do some light-heavy cleaning…this way your getting things done and working out.
One day i had too much energy and I cleaned the entire apartment and that means taking the rugs out from my rabbits area, vacuumed, laundry…bathroom+rugs…I was SWEATY lol I burned like 400 calories that day from those 2 hours of cleaning i was WIPED OUT…Idk how people can say that housework isn't working out?? so all the thin moms out there must be dumber than doornails when it comes to strength and energy hauling them kids around and cleaning after them pfft0 -
HA! In for lol's0
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I've been on MFP since my son was born in 2008. Started using forums in 2010.
I can assure you, nothing has changed.
Except my age.
I've been more than two years, and don't really notice a change either.0 -
This time last year the site was great. All of a sudden it's now like some dreggy dating site where people look down their noses at each other and race to pass snarky comments.
I've been around awhile. The only thing that's changed is an increase in the number of know it all trigger warning no-criticism zone special snowflakes.
Not true. The word bang has been removed from the threads so its less of a dating site if anything.0 -
Most of the time this can be avoided with a simple search and people will find the answers they need becuase it has been asked before. But it is hard to ask any kind of question here without 90% of the replies being others just jacking around.0
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just my 2¢ here but if someone makes a thread asking for advice asking how to lose weight and what works and blah blah blah. I feel like I have some experience having lost almost 70lbs. So YES I do know more than some people, does that make me a snob? Maybe, but probably not. It's also frustrating when people can't click the search button to look stuff up or partake of this thing called google. It works great you should try it sometime.
I also agree with another user that no you probably shouldn't log simple things like dusting the mantle :laugh: and MFP is inaccurate on calories burned so most people are eating too many calories to lose weight and then they come on the forums and rage.
to sum it all up, ignore it or move on to a different website, complaining is only going to raise your stress hormones... which hinders weight loss :laugh: :bigsmile:0 -
I agree with OP I mean Have you read an article and there was like 5 tips to get healthier today, one way to do it is to do some light-heavy cleaning…this way your getting things done and working out.
One day i had too much energy and I cleaned the entire apartment and that means taking the rugs out from my rabbits area, vacuumed, laundry…bathroom+rugs…I was SWEATY lol I burned like 400 calories that day from those 2 hours of cleaning i was WIPED OUT…Idk how people can say that housework isn't working out?? so all the thin moms out there must be dumber than doornails when it comes to strength and energy hauling them kids around and cleaning after them pfft
I wish I could be more like you.0 -
I've been here about 3 1/2 years and I think it's about the same as it was when I started.
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I started on this site for the first time about three years ago. At that time it was a wonderful place to get motivation and support. I found a lot of nice and helpful people. This site is suppose to be about supporting each other, but more and more I see people being less supportive and just down right mean. Some users seem to have an attitude that they are better because they have been a successful where another user wasn't as successful or is taking just a little more time.
I have read multiple post today where a person asked a simple question and they were ridiculed for it. One poor girl simply asked what was the difference between light cleaning and heavy cleaning. That's all she wanted to know, but there were post after post about how she shouldn't log cleaning. It's not anyone's right to tell another person what they should and shouldn't log. If I decided to log "walking to my fridge to get a snack" it's no one's business but my own.
I think some users are forgetting the reasons for a site like this. I also want to make it clear that I'm saying "some users", because there are still a lot of genuinely nice people on here.
We all need to be kind to one another. Most of us have all been in the same situation and for the few of you that have always been fit and use the site to keep track of your fitness then you need to understand that it doesn't come as easy to some as it does to you. For the ones that have been overweight and out of shape remember where you have come from and how you felt in the beginning.
It shouldn't matter if you are morbidly obese, too thin, or have never had an issue. We are all here for the same reason and that's to be the best us we can be. So, as I said before be kind to one another or you're disrespecting the site, the members, and yourself. It's fantastic to look good but real beauty still comes from within.
I'm gonna try to address this without making it a whole thing.
Yes, you can log whatever you want. But when you ask for advice, you'll get advice. And anyone who cares is gonna tell you logging things as exercise that aren't really exercise is a bad idea.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's good advice. And that's the problem. Some people want advice, some people want to be told they're doing everything right no matter what.
I've seen people be unnecessarily rude, I've seen people be extraordinarily kind. Just like life. It's no different here. It's everyone's choice if they want to focus on the positive or the negative.
This…all day long this…
and just to add…people give advice on here that the OP's might not want to hear because it's not just for the OP's it's for the lurkers. The ones who want to actually read both sides of an issue and decide for themselves what they feel is right.
As for the cleaning thread…NO ONE was mean to the OP, she got opposite because of how she perceived things. She even got mad just because people commented that they don't personally log that as exercise, they weren't saying you absolutely can't log it. The OP also changed what she wanted to know about it a couple times. No one could actually answer her question because everyone's definition is different…just like when you ask someone what is clean eating? You'll get as many different answers as there are people in the world because to each person it means something different.0 -
I like everything my friends post.
I tend to stay away from the forums unless the title in "Recent Forum Topics" on my home page catches my attention.
Groups are FAR more supportive than the forums.
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I can't say it any better than this, so.I started on this site for the first time about three years ago. At that time it was a wonderful place to get motivation and support. I found a lot of nice and helpful people. This site is suppose to be about supporting each other, but more and more I see people being less supportive and just down right mean. Some users seem to have an attitude that they are better because they have been a successful where another user wasn't as successful or is taking just a little more time.
I have read multiple post today where a person asked a simple question and they were ridiculed for it. One poor girl simply asked what was the difference between light cleaning and heavy cleaning. That's all she wanted to know, but there were post after post about how she shouldn't log cleaning. It's not anyone's right to tell another person what they should and shouldn't log. If I decided to log "walking to my fridge to get a snack" it's no one's business but my own.
I think some users are forgetting the reasons for a site like this. I also want to make it clear that I'm saying "some users", because there are still a lot of genuinely nice people on here.
We all need to be kind to one another. Most of us have all been in the same situation and for the few of you that have always been fit and use the site to keep track of your fitness then you need to understand that it doesn't come as easy to some as it does to you. For the ones that have been overweight and out of shape remember where you have come from and how you felt in the beginning.
It shouldn't matter if you are morbidly obese, too thin, or have never had an issue. We are all here for the same reason and that's to be the best us we can be. So, as I said before be kind to one another or you're disrespecting the site, the members, and yourself. It's fantastic to look good but real beauty still comes from within.
I'm gonna try to address this without making it a whole thing.
Yes, you can log whatever you want. But when you ask for advice, you'll get advice. And anyone who cares is gonna tell you logging things as exercise that aren't really exercise is a bad idea.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's good advice. And that's the problem. Some people want advice, some people want to be told they're doing everything right no matter what.
I've seen people be unnecessarily rude, I've seen people be extraordinarily kind. Just like life. It's no different here. It's everyone's choice if they want to focus on the positive or the negative.
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When I have nothing to add except a snarky comment I remember this:
Does she have any quotes about irony?0 -
One of the reasons why I stopped posting in the forums so much or even caring. I just go here for entertainment now.
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I've been here about 3 1/2 years and I think it's about the same as it was when I started.
/hater
Y U So mean?0 -
I agree with OP I mean Have you read an article and there was like 5 tips to get healthier today, one way to do it is to do some light-heavy cleaning…this way your getting things done and working out.
One day i had too much energy and I cleaned the entire apartment and that means taking the rugs out from my rabbits area, vacuumed, laundry…bathroom+rugs…I was SWEATY lol I burned like 400 calories that day from those 2 hours of cleaning i was WIPED OUT…Idk how people can say that housework isn't working out?? so all the thin moms out there must be dumber than doornails when it comes to strength and energy hauling them kids around and cleaning after them pfft
Work smarter not harder, am I right??
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I've been here over 4 years and this site hasn't changed at all......there were snarky jerks back then too, you probably just missed it \m/0
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When I have nothing to add except a snarky comment I remember this:
This x1,000.0 -
I'm sorry, but I've spent a good bulk of my 1,000 posts trying to give others insightful advice only to be told that I have no right to do that, just because I'm not telling them what they want to hear.
This site doesn't suck because of the group of people that sprinkle their knowledge where it needs to be sprinkled, it's ruined by people who try too hard to take everything personally. People who want to find something to complain about and find a way to be upset.
They want to use others as a crutch to try to "prove" why they haven't been successful.
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So I'm relatively new to MFP (I made an account a while ago but didn't really use it), but I've seen mostly supportive threads in my short time here. That being said, if a user was going to log "dusting the mantle" for exercise (as someone suggested), there's a respectful way to be like, hey that's not going to be productive for you, and saying, what are you, an idiot?? I haven't seen that thread myself, but if you have a disagreement, it's fine to express it, but there's no good reason to do so in a mean way. If someone knows less than you, why not try to help them instead of making them feel stupid for it?0
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Well, it's pretty clear I will be sticking to the GROUPS and not using the forums.... Mean people suck!!0
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OP, you know you could always emulate the change you wish to see by participating in the forums yourself and providing advice or encouragement to other users, instead of sitting around complaining about what everyone else does or does not do.
If you're not willing to put in your own time and effort to participate and be an active member of the community, don't be surprised when the rest of the community politely or not-so-politely tells you that they don't care what you think.0 -
You are completely wrong.
I've been here for years and it hasn't changed in the slightest.
You still get new members asking vague questions on the forums, getting good, strong responses with people who have years of experience, and have been successful with their weight loss, and the OP gets butthurt because they didn't get the exact answer they asked for.
Then you get threads like this one about 5 minutes later, complaining that everyone is so mean.
Frankly, if you are really so upset that you had to make a pointless thread about it, you might be better off just leaving the site, or get off the forums and remove all your friends and use it as a tool.0 -
This time last year the site was great. All of a sudden it's now like some dreggy dating site where people look down their noses at each other and race to pass snarky comments.
I've been around awhile. The only thing that's changed is an increase in the number of know it all trigger warning no-criticism zone special snowflakes.
I've been here awhile. Just observing the forums. Not so much less "mean" people but maybe increase on people who might just take things a little personally. If you ask a questions, you're going to get an answer. If you don't like that answer I see it as the OP's problem.
I was just on a thread the other day where an OP said she wasn't losing weight and refused to believe she was doing anything wrong with her logging but didn't want to get checked for medical problems. Just kept throwing out excuses. So yeah, it may seem like people are being mean but the OP may be in denial or just wants someone to tell them they are doing everything right when really they are way off.0 -
So I'm relatively new to MFP (I made an account a while ago but didn't really use it), but I've seen mostly supportive threads in my short time here. That being said, if a user was going to log "dusting the mantle" for exercise (as someone suggested), there's a respectful way to be like, hey that's not going to be productive for you, and saying, what are you, an idiot?? I haven't seen that thread myself, but if you have a disagreement, it's fine to express it, but there's no good reason to do so in a mean way. If someone knows less than you, why not try to help them instead of making them feel stupid for it?
No one was mean in that thread. I have seen mean threads, that was not one of them.0 -
I agree with OP I mean Have you read an article and there was like 5 tips to get healthier today, one way to do it is to do some light-heavy cleaning…this way your getting things done and working out.
One day i had too much energy and I cleaned the entire apartment and that means taking the rugs out from my rabbits area, vacuumed, laundry…bathroom+rugs…I was SWEATY lol I burned like 400 calories that day from those 2 hours of cleaning i was WIPED OUT…Idk how people can say that housework isn't working out?? so all the thin moms out there must be dumber than doornails when it comes to strength and energy hauling them kids around and cleaning after them pfft
But was that heavy cleaning or light cleaning? Because to you that could be heavy and to me that's light.
No one in that thread said it wasn't a workout, however, you did those same things when you were gaining weight. A lot of times people who rely on logging their cleaning will soon wonder why they aren't losing.0
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