MFP has really changed

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  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    Don't you think it's kind of mean to be calling people juveniles? Why is it ok for you to throw out insults no no one else?

    Who am I insulting?

    You called us all juvenile and silly. You actually make it a point to come into every mean people thread and do so.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    I can assure you they are not geared towards juveniles... with exception of Neopets... The other three are quite for adults. But they attract a much broader spectrum of thought and personalities than an Organic Farming site would.
  • Oh, and I also want to say (and I should have said this earlier) my OP goes to original posters as well. They shouldn't be mean either when getting answers they don't like. Otherwise it's a never ending cycle. Also, WTH, are trolls? & WTH does Friday have to do w/ mean post? I don't get it.
    Seriously, I'm a very happy person...and I just want everyone to get a long is all.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    You've clearly never ventured into the viper pit that is pregnancy or "mommy" forums. Organic farming forums aren't going to be a good indicator, because I'll hazard a guess that--while disagreements may occur--you're too similar in general things.

    Venture onto forums or discussion boards with broader subjects, like MFP, and you'll find much worse. News sites are a stunning example.

    Why would I do that, when I've just indicated I thought this site was too often uncivil?
  • paulawatkins1974
    paulawatkins1974 Posts: 720 Member
    I read through that entire cleaning thread, and I contributed to it. I actually thought most of the replies meant well and gave really good advice, and it's responses like the ones in that thread that I think can really help contribute to someone's long-term success on this site.

    You may not like the way information is delivered, but that doesn't make it any less valuable. MFP is just like the rest of reality - there are people from all walks of life. Some of them are nice, some of them aren't. I can't choose how someone interacts with me, but I can choose how I react to people and what I can take away from my experiences with them.

    You get out what you put in. There's a lot of good to get out of this site if you choose to.
    Can someone give me the link to this thread? curious as hk now
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.

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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Oh, and I also want to say (and I should have said this earlier) my OP goes to original posters as well. They shouldn't be mean either when getting answers they don't like. Otherwise it's a never ending cycle. Also, WTH, are trolls? & WTH does Friday have to do w/ mean post? I don't get it.
    Seriously, I'm a very happy person...and I just want everyone to get a long is all.

    Trolls are people who post just to rile people up. They usually don't even agree with what they post.
  • shadowofender
    shadowofender Posts: 786 Member
    Really?

    I was on the site before at the beginning of 2012. I had a wonderful friends list of people who supported me, though they probably shouldn't have because it was clear I was undereating and dealing with the beginnings of an ED. I used the boards all the time and ran into a range of people from overly nice to sarcastic, but no one mean.

    I'm on again and I have a wonderful friends list of people who support me, though they call me on my crap when it's necessary and it's clear I'm handling things in a better way and they can tell. I use the boards frequently even if I don't always post and run into a wide range of people from overly nice to sarcastic, but no one mean.

    It's hard to talk to people online because there's no tone or intonation in words, it's entirely how YOU perceive those words. If you think there are jerks on the boards, you're probably defensive about something. In my opinion.
  • MyaPapaya75
    MyaPapaya75 Posts: 3,143 Member
    Well at least the OP said what most wouldn't have....... +5 for the OP
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    I have a bunch of links saved on my profile that are very helpful links for newbies and people coming back. I once posted that in a newbie thread and got BLASTED for it. I got called mean. All I did was post links I wish I would have known about when I first started.

    The once that usually get offended or upset are usually the ones who get told what they didn't want to hear. They wanted to hear whatever will validate their opinion and when that doesn't happen those people usually flip out calling everyone else mean or bullies, when reality is the OP doesn't want the truth or helpful answers.
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    You've clearly never ventured into the viper pit that is pregnancy or "mommy" forums. Organic farming forums aren't going to be a good indicator, because I'll hazard a guess that--while disagreements may occur--you're too similar in general things.

    Venture onto forums or discussion boards with broader subjects, like MFP, and you'll find much worse. News sites are a stunning example.

    Why would I do that, when I've just indicated I thought this site was too often uncivil?

    Though point is... from the prospective of those of us where this isn't our only forum experience, this place is heaven comparatively... the "mean" people here don't even come close... but perhaps that's because some of us are well practiced at the art of reading tone in the forums.
  • sherambler
    sherambler Posts: 303 Member
    If I decided to log "walking to my fridge to get a snack" it's no one's business but my own.

    :laugh: I just about died.

    It sucks, honestly. There are times when I'm reading a thread and I see a certain few users that I see all the time and there's like an instantaneous eyeroll and I'm just like--nope, not even going to keep reading because I know exactly where this is going. It would also be great if I didn't have to sift through six pages of unrelated back and forth to find out some information about a topic I'm genuinely curious about.
  • Oh, and I also want to say (and I should have said this earlier) my OP goes to original posters as well. They shouldn't be mean either when getting answers they don't like. Otherwise it's a never ending cycle. Also, WTH, are trolls? & WTH does Friday have to do w/ mean post? I don't get it.
    Seriously, I'm a very happy person...and I just want everyone to get a long is all.

    If you have been here this long and don't know what trolls are.... then you are either a liar or know nothing about myfitnesspal.
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,021 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    Don't you think it's kind of mean to be calling people juveniles? Why is it ok for you to throw out insults no no one else?

    Who am I insulting?

    You called us all juvenile and silly. You actually make it a point to come into every mean people thread and do so.

    For the love of bacon...

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  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    OP - thanks for posting. I don't understand why so many people need to make sarcastic comments. If you want to help, then post some helpful advice. Otherwise shut up. Making fun of someone is so immature.
    A LOT of helpful advice is seen as mean or bullying because it may be the opposite of what the OP believes is right. God forbid you try to save someone months of aggravation by telling them something is not a good idea.
  • gypsy_spirit
    gypsy_spirit Posts: 2,107 Member

    It's true that there's a culture here, just like there is on every forum of which I've been a member.

    When I was new here I lurked for a long time. I think that most newbies would benefit from not posting for awhile. If you just hang around the boards and read without commenting you'll learn a ton about the unwritten rules of the community. And if you're thin-skinned that's what I'd recommend.


    This is really excellent advice. I have been on MFP since March of 2012. I lurked for a LONG time on the forums. I made friends with like minded people and that is where I began learning and getting guidance. Not on the forums. I learned from people that were successful and could articulate their plan.

    Really, if you live on this planet and have not holed yourself away somewhere, away from people, this is just life. There are all kinds of ways to learn. Choose the information on the forum you need, have some fun when you can and then move on. These "mean people" threads are becoming the norm these days. And not for the reasons people post them.

    Grow a little bit. Think outside the box for once. See the world for the diverse place it is. Stop complaining all the time.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    Don't you think it's kind of mean to be calling people juveniles? Why is it ok for you to throw out insults no no one else?

    Who am I insulting?

    You called us all juvenile and silly. You actually make it a point to come into every mean people thread and do so.

    "Us all"? I suppose if you saw a shoe that fits, then you might interpret it that way. But I singled no one out. I made a general statement about the forums in general. I agree with the OP.
  • PowerfulHunt
    PowerfulHunt Posts: 281 Member
    The "Recipe" board is usually a quieter place, if you're into that sort of thing .. but [warning] - the other day someone posted about peas in Mac-N-Cheese .. and s*** hit the fan ;)
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    Oh, and I also want to say (and I should have said this earlier) my OP goes to original posters as well. They shouldn't be mean either when getting answers they don't like. Otherwise it's a never ending cycle. Also, WTH, are trolls? & WTH does Friday have to do w/ mean post? I don't get it.
    Seriously, I'm a very happy person...and I just want everyone to get a long is all.

    Someone else answered trolls.

    Friday has to do with MFP Bingo.

    And unfortunately, not everyone will get along. It's not possible - though I have a theory that if everyone minded their own business we could achieve world peace...
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    You know what? I agree.

    But just for fun.....

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  • FitForL1fe
    FitForL1fe Posts: 1,872 Member
    Oh, and I also want to say (and I should have said this earlier) my OP goes to original posters as well. They shouldn't be mean either when getting answers they don't like. Otherwise it's a never ending cycle. Also, WTH, are trolls? & WTH does Friday have to do w/ mean post? I don't get it.
    Seriously, I'm a very happy person...and I just want everyone to get a long is all.

    WUT
  • JONZ64
    JONZ64 Posts: 1,280 Member
    This time last year the site was great. All of a sudden it's now like some dreggy dating site where people look down their noses at each other and race to pass snarky comments.

    I've been around awhile. The only thing that's changed is an increase in the number of know it all trigger warning no-criticism zone special snowflakes.

    Yes! I have been around a while too (I deactivated my other account during roid rage) I think I first started in 2010, but It has ALWAYS had Haters, and it has always had helpful people. Also, NOT everyone that cracks on your post is a hater, they might just have a sense of humor:smile: This is a free site, with loads of helpful information but it is also this place called the Internet, where cowards with keyboards will say things they would never say to anybody's face. Just ignore them (there is an ignore button) and enjoy all the free helpful stuff
  • iheartinsanity
    iheartinsanity Posts: 205 Member
    I'm not the only person who can vouch for this. I was here in 2011 too. People were douche bags on here back then. You just didn't pay attention.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    Don't you think it's kind of mean to be calling people juveniles? Why is it ok for you to throw out insults no no one else?

    Who am I insulting?

    You called us all juvenile and silly. You actually make it a point to come into every mean people thread and do so.

    "Us all"? I suppose if you saw a shoe that fits, then you might interpret it that way. But I singled no one out. I made a general statement about the forums in general. I agree with the OP.

    Well I assumed you were referring to the people responding in the cleaning thread. I've asked for specific examples, which you have yet to provide, so I assume you mean everyone.

    And, no, the shoe absolutely does not fit. I don't have a mean bone in my body unless provoked. I do love Gifs though because....funny. I have a big funny bone.
  • nilbogger
    nilbogger Posts: 870 Member
    The "Recipe" board is usually a quieter place, if you're into that sort of thing .. but [warning] - the other day someone posted about peas in Mac-N-Cheese .. and s*** hit the fan ;)

    That was pretty entertaining for me. Thank Zeus for whoever posted those threads (there was also one about a turkey sandwich and a couple about soup).
  • Stronger_Diva
    Stronger_Diva Posts: 149 Member
    It's better to just gather up like minded friends here and support that way. This website has the absolute worst message boards. Good luck.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    Oh, and I also want to say (and I should have said this earlier) my OP goes to original posters as well. They shouldn't be mean either when getting answers they don't like. Otherwise it's a never ending cycle. Also, WTH, are trolls? & WTH does Friday have to do w/ mean post? I don't get it.
    Seriously, I'm a very happy person...and I just want everyone to get a long is all.
    We're still waiting for the examples of meaness from that thread? Or aren't you going to back up that accusation. Also why the need to create a new account to do this? you've still not answered that question either?

    I await the deafening silence to those questions or am I being mean by asking them?
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    It's also frustrating when people can't click the search button to look stuff up or partake of this thing called google. It works great you should try it sometime.

    :laugh: :bigsmile:

    This x 100
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Hear, hear, OP!!

    I am relatively new to the site, but I have not encountered such uncivility since Jr. High School. So many seem to revel in being called mean. They defend their right to be mean and claim they are just "helping" or they were driven to it lesser minds.

    I have also noticed Jr. High type "cliques". One person will post something snarky or rude and suddenly a bunch of others start in. Often the same group. I assume these are from their 'friends' list. Because if a group is rude, then it's not really rude, right?

    It's so juvenile and silly.


    I guess I will have to say this again... this place is unicorns and rainbow glitter compared to the likes of Babycenter, the Knot, and Sodahead... among many others, those are just the places I have been myself... so please... join another forum and then comeback and see how uncivil this place is... Hell, there was a time where even NEOPETS was worse than this place has ever been... yes, a game website.

    I am a member of three other forums (all organic farming sites). They are nothng like this. People disagree, sometimes it gets a little heated, but I've never encountered anything like this. I suppose there are moderators on those sites, though I've never known one to have to step in.

    I'm not familiar with the sites you mention, but are they geared toward juveniles? .

    Don't you think it's kind of mean to be calling people juveniles? Why is it ok for you to throw out insults no no one else?

    Who am I insulting?

    You called us all juvenile and silly. You actually make it a point to come into every mean people thread and do so.

    "Us all"? I suppose if you saw a shoe that fits, then you might interpret it that way. But I singled no one out. I made a general statement about the forums in general. I agree with the OP.

    Well I assumed you were referring to the people responding in the cleaning thread. I've asked for specific examples, which you have yet to provide, so I assume you mean everyone.

    And, no, the shoe absolutely does not fit. I don't have a mean bone in my body unless provoked. I do love Gifs though because....funny. I have a big funny bone.

    You assume incorrectly.
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