Starvation Mode is Real, and ugly

3babybeans

So sorry you're having a bad day, Marla. *hugs* I'm not an expert or doctor so I can't help you out there. The only thing I can think of to tell you is to make sure you drink enough water during & after exercise. Stretches. The typical bull that you already know. I'm sure someone else has a better answer than me!

Marla64

So sorry you're having a bad day, Marla. *hugs* I'm not an expert or doctor so I can't help you out there. The only thing I can think of to tell you is to make sure you drink enough water during & after exercise. Stretches. The typical bull that you already know. I'm sure someone else has a better answer than me!

Yep-- been doing that. :frown: AND replenishing, blah, blah, blah--

:grumble:

3babybeans

Are you still on diuretics?

daphne_gets_fit

*bump* to read again later

DeeDeeLHF

I have no good advice either that you wouldn't already know. But sending you some positive thoughts and hugs. Hang in there!!! You haven't quit yet and you won't quit today either. Get through today and hope for better things tomorrow.

I am so looking forward to the day that your body realizes that you are loving it and being kind to it and so decides to love and be kind back!! It will happen. Don't lose hope!!:flowerforyou:

D

Marla64

Are you still on diuretics?

Yes. Doctor begrudgingly gave me HCTZ, but only half the dose I was on from my other doctor. I'll be bugging her to up the dosage at my next appointment.

Trying to figure out what's different. Aldi's didn't have my unsalted almonds, so I bought a huge can of salted peanuts. I measure them, but the sodium could definitely be part of the problem. Also, I made some quiche and put too much salt in by accident-- can't help, either.

I had leftover quiche for breakfast this morning, and the bloating went wild-- so, maybe that's it.

I was looking around at the library, seeing all the plump ladies with their tunics-- and, you know, I'm thinking, you know, that's gonna be me. May as well just go shopping, buy my old lady tunics and be done. This is driving me crazy.

But, you know, as I'm driving home, I'm thinking I can't give up. I just can't. I worked too hard for this. I have to get it back.

Thanks for the support-- appreciate it.

Marla64

okay-- so this is how pathetic I am-- I'm trying to do your idea, RussellB of spiking today-- I haven't read your book, only just some of the concept you have made public--

So I have a 6" Italian BMT for lunch-- part spike in my mind, part "WTF-- I'm fat anyway, why the hell care anymore?"

And then, in that same vein, I just had a Big Fish sandwich from BK with a small fries, and a few sips of coke.

Even threw in a Hershey Bar for good measure--

Logged it all. And I'm not even over my calories for the day-- and I can't think of eating anything more today--

Even when I try to fail, I fail. What the hell?

Russellb97

okay-- so this is how pathetic I am-- I'm trying to do your idea, RussellB of spiking today-- I haven't read your book, only just some of the concept you have made public--

So I have a 6" Italian BMT for lunch-- part spike in my mind, part "WTF-- I'm fat anyway, why the hell care anymore?"

And then, in that same vein, I just had a Big Fish sandwich from BK with a small fries, and a few sips of coke.

Even threw in a Hershey Bar for good measure--

Logged it all. And I'm not even over my calories for the day-- and I can't think of eating anything more today--

Even when I try to fail, I fail. What the hell?

For me personally,
Pizza, Ice Cream, and donuts are staples of my spike day. You didn't fail, it's amazing how tough it can be to go over sometimes with calories which blows my mind. It's like how did I get fat in the first place!

I will say this, I have a harder time reaching my goal of 2,000 calories of healthy food, then I do eating 5,000 of whatever I want.

I'm proud of you!

dcjulian

bump for later! Good discussion and thanks for the info!

3babybeans

Pizza. Lots & lots of pizza. And ice cream. Hershey bars are what I keep on hand to keep my chocolate consumption in control. Reese's PB cups (the BIG ONES) are what you want to ruin your cals. :laugh:

You are working hard & you are doing great! Keep the positive mindset, Marla! If nothing else, think what kind of good examples you're setting for the 7 sets of little eyes you have on you 24/7. You got me, babe. Do do. Do do. Do do.

Russellb97

Pizza. Lots & lots of pizza. And ice cream. Hershey bars are what I keep on hand to keep my chocolate consumption in control. Reese's PB cups (the BIG ONES) are what you want to ruin your cals. :laugh:

You are working hard & you are doing great! Keep the positive mindset, Marla! If nothing else, think what kind of good examples you're setting for the 7 sets of little eyes you have on you 24/7. You got me, babe. Do do. Do do. Do do.

I had my first BIG reeces PB cup a few weeks ago, it was awesome. This week I;m going for the PB Snickers squares.

CherylYMerritt

BUMP AND THANK YOU! I am new (6 Weeks) to this website, and already have seen a stall when I didn't eat back my exercise calories which put me under 1200 cal per day.

I am eating them back now!

Good luck. "Tough times don't last, Tough people do! "

You will get through this:)

Marla64

Pizza. Lots & lots of pizza. And ice cream. Hershey bars are what I keep on hand to keep my chocolate consumption in control. Reese's PB cups (the BIG ONES) are what you want to ruin your cals. :laugh:

You are working hard & you are doing great! Keep the positive mindset, Marla! If nothing else, think what kind of good examples you're setting for the 7 sets of little eyes you have on you 24/7. You got me, babe. Do do. Do do. Do do.

I had my first BIG reeces PB cup a few weeks ago, it was awesome. This week I;m going for the PB Snickers squares.

Nah-- Reeses' Peanut Butter Eggs trump them all -- I'm up to 2700 calories.

You're all the greatest-- I'm so thankful for you all. Thank you!

I won't quit. I'll find my way out of this. Russell, I talked to my husband about your concept-- very interesting.

3babybeans

Pizza. Lots & lots of pizza. And ice cream. Hershey bars are what I keep on hand to keep my chocolate consumption in control. Reese's PB cups (the BIG ONES) are what you want to ruin your cals. :laugh:

You are working hard & you are doing great! Keep the positive mindset, Marla! If nothing else, think what kind of good examples you're setting for the 7 sets of little eyes you have on you 24/7. You got me, babe. Do do. Do do. Do do.

I had my first BIG reeces PB cup a few weeks ago, it was awesome. This week I;m going for the PB Snickers squares.

Oh no he didn't. PB Snickers squares?! I hope I never see these in the grocery store.

3babybeans

Nah-- Reeses' Peanut Butter Eggs trump them all -- I'm up to 2700 calories.

You're all the greatest-- I'm so thankful for you all. Thank you!

I won't quit. I'll find my way out of this. Russell, I talked to my husband about your concept-- very interesting.

I so wish I was the type of person to say, "2700 cals?! I'd be sick!" I'm not. I have a stomach of steel & can eat most men under the table.

How's the bloating tonight? I'm not sure if you should b/c of the meds you're on, but apple cider vinegar helps a ton for water retention. BUT vinegar & some medications is a big no-no.

Marla64

Nah-- Reeses' Peanut Butter Eggs trump them all -- I'm up to 2700 calories.

You're all the greatest-- I'm so thankful for you all. Thank you!

I won't quit. I'll find my way out of this. Russell, I talked to my husband about your concept-- very interesting.

I so wish I was the type of person to say, "2700 cals?! I'd be sick!" I'm not. I have a stomach of steel & can eat most men under the table.

How's the bloating tonight? I'm not sure if you should b/c of the meds you're on, but apple cider vinegar helps a ton for water retention. BUT vinegar & some medications is a big no-no.

Oh, please-- me, too. I'm sick emotionally because of it, not physically-- I could handle more.

Believe me, it's not that I'm anorexic-minded-- but, it killed me to go away from 1400 calories because I was already gaining. And now I'm close to 3,000 for today-- just kinda freaking me out. I never wanted to be the fat lady, again....ya know? Totally messing with my head.:ohwell:

I'll research apple-cider vinegar. I can't tell how bad the bloating is because I'm already in stretchy pants.

sherry2626

BUMP!!!! Great Post with Lots of Great Info from others as well!

Russellb97

http://spikediet.blogspot.com/2010/08/one-bad-day-will-not-make-you-gain-fat.html

You will definitely gain a few pounds of water-weight with Spike Day but it doesn't last more than 24-48 hours. If you have a deficit the rest of the week ti is nearly impossible to gain fat with one bad day.

The gain in water weight is a good thing for your metabolism.

Marla64

http://spikediet.blogspot.com/2010/08/one-bad-day-will-not-make-you-gain-fat.html

You will definitely gain a few pounds of water-weight with Spike Day but it doesn't last more than 24-48 hours. If you have a deficit the rest of the week ti is nearly impossible to gain fat with one bad day.

The gain in water weight is a good thing for your metabolism.

Thanks, very much--

Need to read this slowly so I GET it. My endo talked about glycogen in response to a question I'd posed to him about "zigzagging" the caloric intake-- something else I'd tried-- 1300 today, 1800 tomorrow, et cetera-- he was opposed to it, said something about glycogen but truly I didn't really understand, so it didn't stay with me.

I'm a better reader than listener, so I'll devour this tomorrow-- pardon the eating pun.

thank you, so much.

Colfiii

thanks so much for sharing this ... u have no idea how many people do this ... including me in the last one week . Thanks and all the best wish u o get better and better

Just1forMe

I believe! I hope you get it turned around...

3babybeans

How's the water retention today, Marla? :flowerforyou: I hope today is better!

Marla64

How's the water retention today, Marla? :flowerforyou: I hope today is better!

Meh-- I haven't tried any pants, yet-- but, doesn't look good. Weight is up, but from yesterday's "spike" there's little wonder.

Curious to see how this all works-- gonna try to run later. Should be interesting. Not fun running at this weight, believe me.

Okay-- edited to add-- bloating is as bad as ever. I look like I'm about 7 months pregnant. While weight over this year has spread everywhere, it has concentrated in my stomach. My fat pants that thank God I held onto when I'd lost all the weight, don't fit. I'm not even fitting into the clothes I began this journey in.

Despondent, and then some. :brokenheart:

Marla64

Well, headed shopping for some retail therapy. Stubborn that I am, I've been refusing to buy clothes, hoping against hope that the tide will turn, and I'll be able to wear my clothes again. Not happening any time soon, I know. But, still-- I'd worked so hard to get into my size 8s, that I have refused to buy clothes.

I've had some given to me, and found some 'round the house, but they don't fit anymore, either-- so rather than sit home and cry about it, I figured I may as well cry at Wal-Mart. (although I stopped when I reached the door)

Bottom line, I found a couple of outfits that I can live with. Left the story with a pair of jeans, two pairs of capris and two blouses-- some accessories, under garments since those don't fit, either-- and topped it off with a quadruple espresso shot Americano, black, from Starbucks-- (espresso and hot water-- with one pump vanilla-- TO. DIE. FOR.) Now showered and heading to put on my new clothes, I feel a little less like crying in my beer.

Ladies, those of you who have breastfed your children (sorry, guys, but it's chick time again-- ) you know the look and feel of your mams when they're engorged. You know, yikes, little junior hasn't eaten in several hours, but the milk production didn't slow down and I'm wayyyyyy too full. The overstretched, puffy, fluid filled way they feel and look-- well, that's my body. My upper arms look as if I hadn't touched a dumbbell in years, rather than a woman who has done all that I have these past two to tone my body. My stomach, thighs-- you name it, it's everywhere.

I am gearing up for my cyclical time, so the body is doing some of its normal thing. It is far worse this week than last, so maybe it all makes sense.

For now, I'm going to do my hair, put on my new clothes, do some laundry and try to be content in my body. I looked at other shoppers today who were my size, who looked cute in their clothes, and who looked comfortable in their skin. I'm neither these days. I guess if nothing else, I can try to correct the former.

So, yeah, I guess this has turned into my blog-- but, I guess it's my prerogative since I started the thread. Again, I always welcome insight.

thanks again for all the support and encouragement--

Edit-- okay, so it's cute enough-- I think I'll title this photo "As good as it's gonna get--" But, I'm content for now. Really need to work on the doofy expressions-- holy Hannah.

3babybeans

You're beautiful...and you remind me of Abby in that pic. :laugh:

I'm glad you got some clothes that fit. I hope that makes you feel a little more comfortable in your own skin. *hugs*

Marla64

You're beautiful...and you remind me of Abby in that pic. :laugh:

I'm glad you got some clothes that fit. I hope that makes you feel a little more comfortable in your own skin. *hugs*

Ha-- with the doofy faces-- yep, that's my Abby-- like mudder, like daughter.

tgh1914

Just dropping by once in a while to see how things are going. wishing you the best. :flowerforyou:

fimm

Just posting so I can find the thread again. I hope you don't mind. Its a reminder to me to eat - not too much, not to little, but the right amount. I wish you all the best.

ahsongbird

thank u so much for sharing... i had no idea it could be that severe... i figured as long as i stuck at 1200 a day i was fine ... i think im going back to just eating when im hungry eating healthy and staying under what i burn instead of trying to lose as much as possible as quickly as possible...

DeeDeeLHF

Hope today is a good news day! You really do look great in the new clothes. Walk proud!!

D