everything in moderation? i respectfully disagree

Eyoung8

i definitely do everything in moderation. i ate two hot dogs today and i'm sure there was some non-organic monkey beef in them too.

ROTFL:laugh:

MyNameIsNotBob

"Hello, Pot? This is Kettle. You're Black."

Cheers to that.

carolynmittens

She does have some valid points and information in her post. BUT....

If you look at her profile she has also been eating very unhealthy for years just as the rest of us have. The only difference is while we were putting unhealthy fuel into our bodies she was putting none at all into hers or scarcely limited. We have all made bad choices in our pasts and that is why we are all here. To make better choices for ourselves and our bodies. But we should all keep that in mind when posting. We should never speak down about anyone else on this site. That's not what it's for. Otherwise our phone may ring, "Hello, Pot? This is Kettle. You're Black."

you're absolutely right - and when i was 19 and eating very infrequently, i was completely ignorant and honestly didn't think that would have any long-term negative affects on my body. i'm really grateful to the people who told me about the dangers of fasting as often as i was. so now i don't do it anymore. i personally think trans fat is dangerous because it will clog your arteries and give you a heart attack, i'm not trying to judge other people at all, just inform them. but as someone previously said, only one other person agrees with me about the dangers of trans fat and GMOs, so obviously i'm preaching to the wrong audience :P

torregro

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions about diet and nutrition, that's for sure.
I thought *I* knew everything when I was 26 too.
Now that I'm 54, I know less, but I tolerate more.
Peace out everyone............

leslielove

man, whiny people piss me off. i think its interesting how many people are posting in disagreement with the poster and have a large amount of weight to lose. correlation? maaaybe.

before you go trip out on me, i ate the same way for a long time. its programmed into us at this point. but you know what? you can change it. stop being afraid and wimpy and whiny and make yourself push past 'moderation' into healthy. i make minimum wage and work less than 20 hours a week and i'm a full time college student trying to pay off debt. guess what? i feed myself organically with no HFCS, enriched flour, or gluten on less than $200 a month. and yes, the chipotle i am eating today follows the same guidelines.

its friggen doable. you just have to stop being afraid.

btw, cranberries are red. i really hope the person that made that comment realizes that.

MyNameIsNotBob

Now that I'm 54, I know less, but I tolerate more.

I love this.

milaxx

Reading this kind of made me feel like a failure while for weeks now I've been patting myself on the back for giving up soda and making better food choices. Now, I feel like I still have a looooong way to go. A "treat" for our family is to pick up hamburgers from In & Out, bring them home, and eat while we watch a movie. (and no, making them at home is not the same) Over the past few weeks, instead of getting fries I've only been getting the hamburger and then I eat a salad or edamame or something like that with it. Now I feel like that isn't good enough and I should just never eat another take out burger again. And it makes me a little sad. I can't imagine not ever going to Red Robin with my family (our favorite restaurant). And what in the world do you do when your'e invited over to someone's house for dinner? Decline because there may be red 3 or non organic food being served? In today's world it would be very hard to live like the op suggests and still maintain any kind of social life at all.

I don't think the OP's intent was to make you feel bad. In fact it sounds like you are doing very well. Give it time and you will learn to eat out and still stay true to your commitment to you health. I personally don't enjoy processed foods. That's my choice. It hasn't impacted my social life in any negative way. I go out, eat over friend's houses and enjoy my life. If there is something I don't want to eat, I simply don't. yes food is fuel for me, but having given up on processed foods I find I actually enjoy the taste of real food now. I'm like discovering the flavors of food without added salts, sugars and artificial ingredients.

wonnder1

btw, cranberries are red. i really hope the person that made that comment realizes that.

I'm with you on that one, but wow, your tone is just going to set off a whole lot of comments. (What you were going for?)

This whole thread was going fine, until the sarcastic comments about the drink in her hand started. Then it becomes bickering back and forth.

So, let me sum it up, since pretty much everything has been said.

1. If you WANT to live like that, go ahead-you're stronger than me.
2. A WHOLE LOT of people don't want to.
3. Not everyone's circumstances are the same.

Did I get everything? Good.

leslielove

I'm with you on that one, but wow, your tone is just going to set off a whole lot of comments. (What you were going for?)

straight up honesty. i need to give the OP a fist bump of solidarity. yeah, it probably came off a little snarky but i don't bull**** around because nice doesn't always work. you should see me irl lolol

marci355

Uh oh...the food police are here.....

wonnder1

straight up honesty. i need to give the OP a fist bump of solidarity. yeah, it probably came off a little snarky but i don't bull**** around because nice doesn't always work. you should see me irl lolol

I'm more of a live and let live dieter. How other people eat affects me not in the slightest. It may very well be an age thing.

1113cw

I didn't make the original post about the drink in her hand. In fact I wasn't even concerned with it. My reply to the OP was respectful yet disagreed and I stated my position as such. I did, however, jump on the bandwagon about the drink in the pic. And when another poster asked about the drink, the reply was that it was cranberry juice. However, said beverage is not red. I'm not an idiot, I know that cranberries and cranberry juice are red.

leslielove

said aforementioned beverage is also in an opaque container. ain't no way to tell what color she's drinkin.

leslielove

i will just edit my double post to add that i like the umbrella in her drink.

torregro

PS to OP............if you *think* your metabolism slowed down at 25, I got news for you..................................wait till you hit 50! LOL

Happyoceangirl

Lots of interesting responses here. I may be in the minority but I'm going to thank you for making some of the points you did. Not that it means I'll forever be free of junk food (woops - I ate two servings of molten hot wing potato chips, a couple of chips ahoy cookies and some other junk last night, and had takeout the night before. As many others have said, it IS real life) but I'm making efforts to shift toward healthier eating, more of the time. It's a continuum for me, and I think I'm moving in the right direction.

What you said about making healthier alternatives to the items you crave is something I can strive to do at least half of the time, and probably more. I love cookies and brownies, so why not make a point of baking from scratch if I can? Of course, still in moderation (Hot button word in this post!) LOL! Making a cheesecake from scratch (for the first time ever, a few months ago) really was a lot more rewarding than buying a slice from the store bakery. And in all truthfulness, I would probably enjoy the process and result of making my own goodies more than just snarfing down something pre-packaged. Really, truly, I hadn't considered this before.

I think for a lot of people, rules containing "always" and "never" are set ups for failure. I have a pretty strong rebellious streak and even if I intellectually know that I won't like the result, it's very tempting to assert my power in the moment, even if I'm defeating myself in the long run. This might seem a little woo-woo, but for me, it's about learning how to manage my energy and my choices so that I feel both powerful in the moment, and pleased with the outcome.

Thanks for a thought provoking post. :flowerforyou:

babytmarie27

In a perfect world...where a person is single and without children and has a good job a person could probably live that way. I try to eat as natural as my budget will allow but guess what, at the end of the month when Im broke and need to eat I will eat what I can afford and will be grateful for every morsel. Plus I do allow my son to have treats in moderation he is not going to be the weirdo in school nibbling on an organic banana while the rest of the class is having a pizza party. That lifestyle is nearly impossible for most people. Besides I'm not going to spend my life in fear of whats in our food, while millions end their night hungry. Im glad it works for you though.

padkat

Give me nice over dictatorial any day.

SoCalSwimmerDude

Wow, c'mon people. Don't beat the original poster up about all of this. If you took the time to look at her profile, you'd see that she's a vegan and, therefore, is obviously very cautious about what goes into her body. You need to take what she says w/ that in mind. My wife is a vegetarian and has many of the same opinions and I hear it daily when I have my diet coke... even though EVERYTHING else I have is 100% natural and packed full of fruits, veggies, proteins, nuts, etc (eating like a rabbit, I like to call it).

I've seen many people post rants about how they did or want to binge and then folks backing them up telling them its "ok, you have to be human." That's true, you have to be human and eat the way that works for you in a responsible manner. Just because the original poster went on a rant in the exact opposite direction doesn't mean she's the devil.

Anyways, as I've always said, to each his or her own. Take other people's opinions to heart or don't pay much attention. If we're all being honest with ourselves, what the OP said is actually all true. Its just up to you on whether you want to live like that... and if you don't, thats OK!

Happyoceangirl

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions about diet and nutrition, that's for sure.
I thought *I* knew everything when I was 26 too.
Now that I'm 54, I know less, but I tolerate more.
Peace out everyone............

*Like*

marci355

The idea of everything in moderation is a way to NOT made food an issue. What good does it do to berate yourself and belittle yourself because you ate something "bad". NONE. So many people make an issue out of food, and those are the people who end up gaining weight, binging, and having terrible self esteem issues. It's great that you can afford to go all organic and whatnot, but don't condemn those who can't. It DOES cost more, and many people are barely making ends meet as it is.

If I want a dang snickers bar I'm gonna have one, and you know what? That's FINE.

I absolutely agree. But you know whats worse? Berating and belittling someone else. You're 26,and I might add that there might be some varying opinions as to how others spend their lives. I'm 56 and I still don't wag my finger and tell someone they are "doing it wrong". Just my two cents.

carolynmittens

However, said beverage is not red. I'm not an idiot, I know that cranberries and cranberry juice are red.

it's in a shaved coconut shell i never anticipated there'd be so much interest in what i was drinking.

SoUnaware

I'm more of a live and let live dieter. How other people eat affects me not in the slightest. It may very well be an age thing.

It might be. I don't much care at all how the people around me eat. When I'm doing it right (my way right), I feel great. If I'm under eating or over eating, I'm kicking myself in the butt mentally.
But the age thing comes in to play I think with tolerance.
Like, I'm really really miffed that this chick is trying to tell me how to eat and what not to put in my body. Maybe if she was your age. Or a doctor.
Her diary is private, so we have no idea how she's eating. All we know is that she's had some serious eating problems in the recent past. (Sounds to me like she's trying to downplay anorexia.) I get it in my head that she's eating who knows what? 500 calories, maybe. But all of her calories are perfect and pure and have no artificial incredients or colorings. I try to eat 1200 calories (don't exercise yet) and once or twice a week I have a yogurt with Aspertame in it, and once a week I have a wonderful cheat day. Who's eating worse?
Perhaps if I was ten or twenty years older, I might just be able to see what she posted and say "psh, whatever. I definitely need to read this chick's posts in moderation" and move on.

Happyoceangirl

So, let me sum it up, since pretty much everything has been said.

1. If you WANT to live like that, go ahead-you're stronger than me.
2. A WHOLE LOT of people don't want to.
3. Not everyone's circumstances are the same.

Did I get everything? Good.

I think you got it.

arewethereyet

PS to OP............if you *think* your metabolism slowed down at 25, I got news for you..................................wait till you hit 50! LOL

Hi 5^

First as a moderator I find everyone has been wonderful in their disagreements, and for this I am thankful. I am tired today and don't feel like cleaning up another thread :laugh:

It is so important to have differing points of view and this post actually HELPED me.!

See when we keep it civil an old lady like me gets to thinking and learns something.

I never say never (although I guess I just did ) I am going to think about my food before consuming it. My life is changing fast, and I am in control of it. Choice of an apple or bowl of sugar pops, I think I shall select the apple.

But if anyone sees me eating an oreo .................sssssshhhhhhhhh


:flowerforyou:

mare91467

Quite frankly, you can live your life like a monk in a temple, eating fresh herbs from your garden and never put one chemical in your body, yet still die from Cancer. Or have a massive heart attack. Or have lightening strike you.

I don't subscribe to the "eat like crap for your whole life" theory but I also think that life is too short to be too anal about anything.

I am more interested in the "treat each day as if it were your last" because it very well could be.

So be you, be happy and strive for health to preserve what you can, but in the end no one is guaranteed a long healthy life, we only hope for one.

arewethereyet

However, said beverage is not red. I'm not an idiot, I know that cranberries and cranberry juice are red.

it's in a shaved coconut shell i never anticipated there'd be so much interest in what i was drinking.

Of course there is!! I assumed cuz you was a youngen you was drinking a margherita......I have to live vicariously through my young friends :laugh:

You look so happy !!

wonnder1

"whatever. I definitely need to read this woman's posts in moderation" and move on.

I like that (but I edited "chicks" cause I hate that)

LisaKyle11

i basically agree with you, but are you drinking a pina colada? :-)

padkat

PS to OP............if you *think* your metabolism slowed down at 25, I got news for you..................................wait till you hit 50! LOL

Hi 5^

First as a moderator I find everyone has been wonderful in their disagreements, and for this I am thankful. I am tired today and don't feel like cleaning up another thread :laugh:

It is so important to have differing points of view and this post actually HELPED me.!

See when we keep it civil an old lady like me gets to thinking and learns something.

I never say never (although I guess I just did ) I am going to think about my food before consuming it. My life is changing fast, and I am in control of it. Choice of an apple or bowl of sugar pops, I think I shall select the apple.

But if anyone sees me eating an oreo .................sssssshhhhhhhhh


:flowerforyou:

Ah, words of wisdom :flowerforyou: