Women who put on muscle fast
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damn that's pretty awesome. I feel shameful having posted mine compared to these LOL
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Once again, I am a competitive bodybuilder with low fat, so you will not get a back like the second picture without working hard for it.
Just bumping my comparison pictures to show how body fat plays a roll. My muscles look much bigger without the fat. Initially my measurements all went up because of water retention and dropped as my body fat dropped.
good work my friend!!
I'd also like to point out- I'm pretty sure that that second picture you aren't meaty enough for 18% unless you are hiding it somewhere- that looks awfully lean for 18% ... looks closer to like 15/16 (bestie went with 14/15) I think you are grossly overestimating that body fat my love!!!
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I don't. She's probably a fair weight with those muscles. When I was 120lbs I was about 17%. I look more defined in many places now at 130, yet I'm 19%.
It hit me that BF percentage, also, isn't the be all end all of what looks good. I think I look better now at this weight then I did lighter at a lighter BF. Not because I look squishier, because I don't think I do.
When it boils down though, ignoring BF% and weight, I think what looks good on me is muscle definition.
hiking->lifting
118lb->130lb
17%->19% BF
2 of me at 130 without lifting (one with a high exposure to show how flabby my butt was)
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I don't. She's probably a fair weight with those muscles. When I was 120lbs I was about 17%. I look more defined in many places now at 130, yet I'm 19%.
damn that's pretty awesome. I feel shameful having posted mine compared to these LOL
18%
Once again, I am a competitive bodybuilder with low fat, so you will not get a back like the second picture without working hard for it.
Just bumping my comparison pictures to show how body fat plays a roll. My muscles look much bigger without the fat. Initially my measurements all went up because of water retention and dropped as my body fat dropped.
good work my friend!!
I'd also like to point out- I'm pretty sure that that second picture you aren't meaty enough for 18% unless you are hiding it somewhere- that looks awfully lean for 18% ... looks closer to like 15/16 (bestie went with 14/15) I think you are grossly overestimating that body fat my love!!!
It hit me that BF percentage, also, isn't the be all end all of what looks good. I think I look better now at this weight then I did lighter at a lighter BF. Not because I look squishier, because I don't think I do.
When it boils down though, ignoring BF% and weight, I think what looks good on me is muscle definition.
The body fat is on, just not evenly distributed. I'm 5'9" and I weigh 150 pounds. Calipers of course measure much lower, but they still show that I am very lean in my upper and I hold more fat in my legs.0 -
I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
Weird women. I picked my husband up and carried him into the bedroom last night. Not a single complaint was uttered nor a moment of embarrassment felt.
He's a whole 155 pounds, so he's not *that* heavy. We've been trying to put some weight on him but so far he just holds steady. Lucky *kitten*.0 -
Pshhh you're doing it wrong:I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
Weird women. I picked my husband up and carried him into the bedroom last night. Not a single complaint was uttered nor a moment of embarrassment felt.
He's a whole 155 pounds, so he's not *that* heavy. We've been trying to put some weight on him but so far he just holds steady. Lucky *kitten*.
*girl picks up guy to bring back to batgirl cave*
*guys testosterone thermometer goes up in fear of being outmanned and picks up batgirl instead*
*batgirls heart flutters at the manlyness and suddenly plays weak with excitement, not to make him feel better, but to get her way*
*batgirl gets what she wants and if she doesn't she picks up guy and throws him away*
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http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/determining-your-body-type.html
Check out these body types to determine yours. I haven't read through the posts--hope it hasn't been posted already.0 -
I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Clothing shopping could easily be one reason. Off the rack clothing does not assume much muscularity for women.0 -
Pshhh you're doing it wrong:I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
Weird women. I picked my husband up and carried him into the bedroom last night. Not a single complaint was uttered nor a moment of embarrassment felt.
He's a whole 155 pounds, so he's not *that* heavy. We've been trying to put some weight on him but so far he just holds steady. Lucky *kitten*.
*girl picks up guy to bring back to batgirl cave*
*guys testosterone thermometer goes up in fear of being outmanned and picks up batgirl instead*
*batgirls heart flutters at the manlyness and suddenly plays weak with excitement, not to make him feel better, but to get her way*
*batgirl gets what she wants and if she doesn't she picks up guy and throws him away*
*nods*
IDK. Seems like a lot of work. I'm a simple kinda woman.
Girl: Me Girl. You man. *picks up man* No talking. *carries away* *flex*0 -
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When I try to figure out something about my body, I make sure it's from a site called dummies.http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/determining-your-body-type.html
Check out these body types to determine yours. I haven't read through the posts--hope it hasn't been posted already.0 -
I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
This is really HIS problems not hers. He has a HUGE natural advantage when it comes to strength, if he's not using it, sucks to be him. My husband is the same height and weight as me but no way could I ever overpower him.0 -
I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Clothing shopping could easily be one reason. Off the rack clothing does not assume much muscularity for women.
I do have issues with clothes fitting. Pants are too tight in the quads and butt but lose in the waist. Shirts are too tight in the shoulders and arms but too big in the waist again. But again this is the clothing's problem not mine. And really, why would I complain about a small waist? I'm in the market for a good tailor...0 -
I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
This is really HIS problems not hers. He has a HUGE natural advantage when it comes to strength, if he's not using it, sucks to be him. My husband is the same height and weight as me but no way could I ever overpower him.
Agreed. It is the guy that should be embarrassed.0 -
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I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
This is really HIS problems not hers. He has a HUGE natural advantage when it comes to strength, if he's not using it, sucks to be him. My husband is the same height and weight as me but no way could I ever overpower him.
Agreed. It is the guy that should be embarrassed.
No no no, guys always lose on purpose. It is their goal to have the woman on top of them.
That's really never been my thing. I guess some guys like that. Different strokes . . .0 -
and then we figured out who the doms wereI know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
This is really HIS problems not hers. He has a HUGE natural advantage when it comes to strength, if he's not using it, sucks to be him. My husband is the same height and weight as me but no way could I ever overpower him.
Agreed. It is the guy that should be embarrassed.
No no no, guys always lose on purpose. It is their goal to have the woman on top of them.
That's really never been my thing. I guess some guys like that. Different strokes . . .
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I'm sorry to say but you women who think you gain muscle too fast or the muscle you have makes you look manly... you don't look manly. You don't even have that much muscle, and I sincerely doubt you can lift that much. You just have a distorted self image. :ohwell:0
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At no point did I claim to have made any muscle gains at all. Just simply showing progress pics from a couple months of starting to lift and the difference loss of body fat makes. Thank you for the few who said something nice.0
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I don't. She's probably a fair weight with those muscles. When I was 120lbs I was about 17%. I look more defined in many places now at 130, yet I'm 19%.
It hit me that BF percentage, also, isn't the be all end all of what looks good. I think I look better now at this weight then I did lighter at a lighter BF. Not because I look squishier, because I don't think I do.
When it boils down though, ignoring BF% and weight, I think what looks good on me is muscle definition.
hiking->lifting
118lb->130lb
17%->19% BF
2 of me at 130 without lifting (one with a high exposure to show how flabby my butt was)She's hot!
I totally agree BF% isn't the end all be all- to me it's important in my quest for a certain appearance- yes -I want visible abs. So I pay attention to these things- ANNNNND I absolutely also agree with the muscle and definition and HAWT.
I think any one who lifts and has ANY muscle definition is doing a good thing. That was by no means a dig on her- I just think with that kind of defnition she's pushing 15% But as it's hard to properly guess based on one single flexed back picture- it's taking a stab in the dark- and it's merely for "musing" purposes.
I just think her BF is lower than 18% shrug- that's all not meant to be an insult LOL I'm totally cool with it!
Most people- on average grossly underestimate the body fat they truly have on their body when they think they are at 15- usually they are closer to like 20... and the lower you get- the more obvious this becomes. I'd say it's particularly prevalent around our BF%- I still consider myself to be in the 20's and Id' say we are within 2-5% of each other looking at that ab picture.
Okay- I figured that might be the case- knowing (As I said 3 lines up- it's hard to determine based on one single back picture- as noted- either way it looks good.The body fat is on, just not evenly distributed. I'm 5'9" and I weigh 150 pounds. Calipers of course measure much lower, but they still show that I am very lean in my upper and I hold more fat in my legs.
I'm 58" and I definitely carry body heavy as well (THANK GOD- love mai back) So that would make sense still being at 18% there.. After next season I'll probably coming into youre level and I'll still probably be high despite being super lean up top- can be annoying- I want more hammy definition!!!
Anyway's I was just musing- you look great.
Just thinking- and I'm pre-coffee so be fair warned!!!0 -
You guys aren't alone. I have broad shoulders and calves like a friggin' linebacker.
lol, same! Even when I was thinner I still couldn't wear regular boots and had to order "extra wide" ones. SIGH! It doesn't help that I just have a large frame. Damn my german side! I wish I had my smaller Japanese side My younger sister is like the complete opposite body type. I'm 5'9 and fairly athletic/large build. My sister is 5'4 and like 115lbs. She is a STICK.
Joining the club, only my heritage doesn't even have the Japanese side to balance things out - I'm all Viking or Scottish Highlander, plus a teeny bit of French Huguenot which gave me small-for-my-frame hands, nose and ears, and a mere size 42 foot, but doesn't seem to have any effect on the rest of me! I'm 5'8", with a rib cage wider and deeper than most men's, and shoulders etc to match. Muscle definition appears on me absurdly fast (not because I have particularly low BF% either), and every time I've had a personal training session, the trainer just gawps when my leg press weight is significantly more than my body-weight.
My mother and sister are the same - my sister's just shy of six foot and plays ice-hockey on the men's team for fear of squishing the girls on the female team, and my mother wears a size 44 shoe and has a hand span of an octave and a half... I don't think we look particularly 'manly' though - just the very strong women we are, though none of us will ever fit the delicate, streamlined, feminine-female mold!0 -
I got really into weights and Les Mills BodyPump.. Was doing it a fair few times a week with heavy weights (no other women in the class were lifting what I was lifting & I wasn't taking anything apart from the odd protein shake here and there)
The long and short of it is I became 'bulky' my upper body, shoulders, back and arms was just horrible when I had clothes on, it made me look much bigger and stockier than I actually am, thats the worst thing you want to be. I have had people say to me "weights don't make you bulk" But that's B**** because it happened to me.
Everyone's different.
I used to swim for county so have a broad back and shoulders to begin with. I agree that women that do bikini competitions look amazing with muscle, but that look just doesn't happen on me, it's like they're Lifting goddesses and I'm the bulky hulk.
Genetically my brother and dad are HUGE from weight training and don't seem to lose muscle fast if they ease off on the training (my brothers just had a shoulder operation but still looks massive, even though he's been out of training for 6 months)
Much to other peoples disgust I have now stopped weights and get my strength from other classes such as Les Mills BodyBalance, Pilates and YOGA.
If you're not happy don't listen to anyone else, it's your body0 -
Why on earth would I be embarrassed? I suppose he might be embarrassed, but that's not my problem. I'd probably say "You're breakin' my heart, a$$wipe." and then we'd both laugh ourselves silly over the Golden Child reference. Also, if I could best my husband, I'd probably enter a comp, because he's crazy-strong!:laugh:Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
yeah, my husband would take that as a sign that he needs to hit the weights, but he'd like it because he likes strong women.
I totally despair of this culture in which women believe that there's something wrong with being strong, or that it's unfeminine. It's ridiculous and also bad for women's mental health, because it's saying we're supposed to aspire to be weak and dependent instead of strong and independent. Weak and dependent is not conducive to good mental health.
But it's more than that.... we are not supposed to be weak. Throughout human evolution, natural selection has favoured strong individuals, both male and female. Men have more upper body strength due to evolving as hunters rather than gatherers, but palaeolithic women still had to lift and carry heavy loads, walk long distances including uphill while carrying children who are too small to walk far, and also be strong enough to defend themselves and their kids from animals or hostile humans while out gathering and the men were out hunting. In other words, not weak. If women were supposed to be weak, we'd have evolved to be weak and not have any muscles or the ability to become strong.
Viking women were the last line of defence if the village was attacked. The men would go out and fight off the invaders, but if the men were defeated and the invaders came into the village, then the women would be waiting for them to defend themselves and their children, and they would be armed.
Spartan girls were trained from a young age to fight, for similar reasons to why Viking women and girls learned how to fight and use weapons.
this whole "women are weak" things come from the last few centuries where rich women basically didn't do anything because they had servants to do housework, which in those days involved a lot of muscle, (imagine the arms of women who washed clothes for a living before washing machines were invented), and men dealt with the financial and business side of things, while all women did was tell the servants what to do and sit around looking pretty... rich women had weak muscles while poor women, who had to work for a living, e.g. washing rich women's clothes, had strong arms. And so this whole thing of women just sitting around looking pretty and requiring the help of men because they never did anything strenuous for their entire life was born. And women with muscles were looked down upon because it meant they did physical work for a living, same as why sun tans were looked down upon in the same era, because it meant you were out working in the fields all day, i.e. you were poor, not rich. Just as the sun tan has now become a status symbol because it means you can afford foreign holidays... well it's possible for us to change the culture so that women can reclaim our muscles as a sign that we are fit and strong and take care of our bodies, and that we're not afraid of a bit of physical labour.
Really, women should stop thinking that their physical strength and muscle is a bad thing!! If you're surrounded by people who are telling you that they don't like you because you have muscles.... well dump toxic people out of your life, because they're probably just jealous for the same reason why sometimes when you start to lose weight, some of your old friends get all unfriendly with you.... because it makes them feel insecure about themselves, their lifestyle, and the affect their lifestyle is having on their body. And real friends (and caring, supportive sexual partners) accept you for who you are, and aren't going to reject you because you have muscles. Men who don't like strong women.... maybe it's because they know they're weak and a strong woman makes them feel weak and makes them realise that they should be a lot stronger than they are... strong men generally don't have this problem, and tend to admire and be sexually attracted to strong women.
So really, don't let anyone feel that there is something *wrong* with having muscles and being strong. Whatever muscle gains you make as a woman without resorting to steroids, are gains that you are supposed to be able to make and muscle you're supposed to have as a woman. It's how you evolved. Maybe you have more neanderthal genes than average (they were stronger on average than Homo sapiens, but that doesn't mean Homo sapiens were/are weak)... maybe you are of Viking descent, and no matter what you're ethnic origin you're descended from women who needed to be strong to survive, because we all are, and you've inherited your strength from them. Be proud of it.
tl;dr - women are supposed to be strong because natural selection0 -
I got really into weights and Les Mills BodyPump.. Was doing it a fair few times a week with heavy weights (no other women in the class were lifting what I was lifting & I wasn't taking anything apart from the odd protein shake here and there)
The long and short of it is I became 'bulky' my upper body, shoulders, back and arms was just horrible when I had clothes on, it made me look much bigger and stockier than I actually am, thats the worst thing you want to be. I have had people say to me "weights don't make you bulk" But that's B**** because it happened to me.
Everyone's different.
I used to swim for county so have a broad back and shoulders to begin with. I agree that women that do bikini competitions look amazing with muscle, but that look just doesn't happen on me, it's like they're Lifting goddesses and I'm the bulky hulk.
Genetically my brother and dad are HUGE from weight training and don't seem to lose muscle fast if they ease off on the training (my brothers just had a shoulder operation but still looks massive, even though he's been out of training for 6 months)
Much to other peoples disgust I have now stopped weights and get my strength from other classes such as Les Mills BodyBalance, Pilates and YOGA.
If you're not happy don't listen to anyone else, it's your body
Cool story brah0 -
I got really into weights and Les Mills BodyPump.. Was doing it a fair few times a week with heavy weights (no other women in the class were lifting what I was lifting & I wasn't taking anything apart from the odd protein shake here and there)
The long and short of it is I became 'bulky' my upper body, shoulders, back and arms was just horrible when I had clothes on
No, you didn't.
Show us the pics and measurements to prove it, because if that happened while you weren't gaining weight then you are a marvel of biology.0 -
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
Nope. I date men.0 -
I know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
Weird women. I picked my husband up and carried him into the bedroom last night. Not a single complaint was uttered nor a moment of embarrassment felt.
He's a whole 155 pounds, so he's not *that* heavy. We've been trying to put some weight on him but so far he just holds steady. Lucky *kitten*.
Nice. Internet high-five.0 -
and then we figured out who the doms wereI know I really should let others have their own preferences. I should. But....
I just can't understand why soooo many women do not like muscles. Why wouldn't we want to look strong? I blame society. Strength and health is valued in men but not women. Why? Doesn't that bother women? Shouldn't we want to be strong just to spite them?
Have you ever been in the situation where you're horsing around with your guy friend and to your surprise you find you can overpower him? Well, some women find themselves in this situation and it embarrasses them.
This is really HIS problems not hers. He has a HUGE natural advantage when it comes to strength, if he's not using it, sucks to be him. My husband is the same height and weight as me but no way could I ever overpower him.
Agreed. It is the guy that should be embarrassed.
No no no, guys always lose on purpose. It is their goal to have the woman on top of them.
That's really never been my thing. I guess some guys like that. Different strokes . . .
Ahh, and I wake up to one of my favorite gifs. :bigsmile:0 -
I'd also like to see the pics of the bald spots these women undoubtedly must get as a result of having such high testosterone levels.
Sorry, no pics, but I do have a friend who doesn't even lift but plays several recreational sports and gets very muscular. She gave up volleyball because her arms were becoming too mannish for her taste (possibly not for others, however).
She is naturally slim (underweight actually) and has been for the 25 years that I've known her. And, yes, she does have quite noticeable facial hair, although it's white/blonde.
I could stand a little bulk, but all I ever achieve is an unattractive stringy/wiry look, especially my forearms.
Mannish arms from volleyball? Sounds like she was getting too much definition for her taste. Many women seem to dislike muscle definition and think that it is masculine. Many women even dislike being strong. I have no idea why but they think its not feminine to be strong. Damsals in distress I suppose.
Yeah, tell your friend to stop at Dairy Queen and eat a Royal Treat after every game/practice. That'll put an end to that muscle definition.0 -
lol! body pump is heavy lifting...I got really into weights and Les Mills BodyPump.. Was doing it a fair few times a week with heavy weights (no other women in the class were lifting what I was lifting & I wasn't taking anything apart from the odd protein shake here and there)
The long and short of it is I became 'bulky' my upper body, shoulders, back and arms was just horrible when I had clothes on
No, you didn't.
Show us the pics and measurements to prove it, because if that happened while you weren't gaining weight then you are a marvel of biology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsm0A1RTu6k
"high rep high intensity barbell based program...it's more repetitions with higher weight...800 reps in some routines"
I wonder if they know that heavy lifting is lifting 85% your max weight for ~5 reps. And you lift what at bodypump? Gazillion reps of whatever lighter weight? If it 'feels heavy' that doesn't make it heavy lifting. If you run for a long time and your legs feel heavy to the point you cannot lift them anymore that doesn't mean that when you're walking you're doing heavy lifting...0 -
I don't think it's about getting stronger really quickly, which some do. I think the OP was talking about actually putting on bulky muscles, which MOST women don't. My college roommate, however, was an exception. She used to go running while carrying a walkman -- yes, it was in the stone age -- and she had to alternate arms to avoid building up one huge bicep. I kid you not. Wish I had a pic to show.
Jesus h christ what utter nonsense.
And you know this because you went to college with us, right?
Hey, I met some aliens once in college. Great guys really. We did some shots, a couple of keg stands, and they helped me with my paper on John Rawls. I'm sorry you weren't there to witness that.
Sounds like your alien friends are awesome.
So you're saying I'm making this up just for my own amusement?
No, they are saying that you can't get large biceps from carrying around a Walkman while you run. I think what happened is your friend lost weight, lost the flab in her arms, so her biceps were visible, giving the *illusion* of "bulk."0 -
People taking themselves way too seriously around here....sheesh.... Biologically impossible. Got it. She's just a freak whose right bicep is bigger than her left. I don't know why, guess I never will. But I now know that it couldn't be because of her Walkman, like she said it was. It's ok. I can live with that. You guys need to find a better past time than ganging up on people in these forums who say things that are incorrect -- it's worse than a high school clique around here sometimes. Just let it go. It's not that important. If I had taken the time to really think about it, I would have realized how silly it was. It's ok, really.
My right calf is larger than my left calf. That's not freakish. It happens.0
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