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  • louisee294
    louisee294 Posts: 140 Member
    BUGGER! just read the Atkins website and realised i've been doing this wrong!! Apparently in the UK you don't have to subtract fibre. no wonder my weight loss is so freaking slow!!! what an idiot!
  • louisee294
    louisee294 Posts: 140 Member
    BUGGER! just read the Atkins website and realised i've been doing this wrong!! Apparently in the UK you don't have to subtract fibre. no wonder my weight loss is so freaking slow!!! what an idiot!

    Worked out I've been having about 40grams, not 20 :( at least I know when I want to maintain that 40grams is fine lol :)
  • dittiepe
    dittiepe Posts: 557 Member
    BUGGER! just read the Atkins website and realised i've been doing this wrong!! Apparently in the UK you don't have to subtract fibre. no wonder my weight loss is so freaking slow!!! what an idiot!

    That's weird. Why would you not subtract fiber? Are your food labels different or something? I'm sure atkins is the same the world over. Hehe
  • firedragon064
    firedragon064 Posts: 1,082 Member
    I don't get it why in the induction stage, you can have 2 cups of jicama but only 1 cup of cabbage when jicama net carbs is more than cabbage.
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    I don't get it why in the induction stage, you can have 2 cups of jicama but only 1 cup of cabbage when jicama net carbs is more than cabbage.
    I'm not sure I see that restriction. The website just shows what is a salad veggie and what is not, there are no restrictions on how much of each you can eat as long as you stay under your 12-15 net grams of veggies. I eat lots of cabbage. I like it simply steamed with butter and salt.
  • louisee294
    louisee294 Posts: 140 Member
    BUGGER! just read the Atkins website and realised i've been doing this wrong!! Apparently in the UK you don't have to subtract fibre. no wonder my weight loss is so freaking slow!!! what an idiot!

    That's weird. Why would you not subtract fiber? Are your food labels different or something? I'm sure atkins is the same the world over. Hehe

    apparently in the US carb counts on packaging are Carbs+Fibre, so in order to just count carbs you have to take out the fibre. In the UK Carbs are only carbs. Makes it very confusing when finding things on MFP because I dont know now whats with fibre and what isn't. guess I'#ll just have to look at the packets.
  • Gia6280
    Gia6280 Posts: 49 Member
    Hi everyone! I'm new to the Atkins thing too. So far though, it is the only thing that has ever helped me lose the weight.! I feel better than I ever have. You guys are all giving me great recipe and food ideas.

    SW 150
    CW 142
    GW 130
  • dittiepe
    dittiepe Posts: 557 Member
    Hi everyone! I'm new to the Atkins thing too. So far though, it is the only thing that has ever helped me lose the weight.! I feel better than I ever have. You guys are all giving me great recipe and food ideas.

    SW 150
    CW 142
    GW 130

    Hi and welcome!
  • dittiepe
    dittiepe Posts: 557 Member

    apparently in the US carb counts on packaging are Carbs+Fibre, so in order to just count carbs you have to take out the fibre. In the UK Carbs are only carbs. Makes it very confusing when finding things on MFP because I dont know now whats with fibre and what isn't. guess I'#ll just have to look at the packets.

    Oh wow. Well that would be irritating alright. Leave it to the US to bungle up anything with numbers. LOL
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    I checked this magazine out from the library, because I wanted to read this article: Time, Sept. 12, 2011, "The Oz Diet". I wanted to see what he's spouting now, and am pleased that he is actually encouraging eggs, fat, and nuts. He seems to understand that fats like olive oil and omega-3's are good for us. But, he still touts that animal fats and cholestrol (from egg yolks, meats and dairy products) are bad. Overall, he preaches moderation. One egg a day, and people with high-cholestrol should be taken off of them.

    Dr. Oz did condemn the label "Fat-free", but not for the reasons that Dr. Atkins did. His problem with fat-free is that it gives people the license to eat all the fat-free products they want.

    The thing that really annoyed me about this article is that he devotes 5 long paragraphs to "fad" diets, and Atkins is at the top of his list. He still lumps Atkins in the group of "fad" diets that eliminate whole food groups, and tells everyone that the Atkins regimen is extremely high-protein. Let me just quote the whole paragraph:

    "The Atkins regimen--lots of meat and very few carbohydrates (including the natural sugars in fruits and vegetables)--had been briefly popular more than 30 years earlier but became a cultural phenomoenon after the Times story breathed new life into it. market foreces fed the craze, with menus reformulated to remove the last detectable carbohydrate molecule and carb-free labels slapped on foods that never contained them in the first place. Artisanal bakers wept (no carbs means no baguettes), and the uberfaithful began to suffer the bad breath of ketoacidosis, which occurs when glycogen stores are too low."

    He goes on to say that there was significant weight loss, but it wasn't being sustained. Also, the much-relied on meats can lead to inflammation and irritation, heart attacks and strokes.

    South Beach and Paleo weren't left untouched, either. The main concern being about elminating whole grains and dairy products.

    I guess the best I can say is that he agrees that we should eat foods that look like they did when they came out of the ground-whole foods.

    Uggh.
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    I can't stand Dr. Oz. I wanna punch him in the nose! *waving fist in the air*
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    I can't stand Dr. Oz. I wanna punch him in the nose! *waving fist in the air*

    Dr. Oz is a tool It ticks me off that he rates his own article in a magazine with such a far-reaching audience.
  • dittiepe
    dittiepe Posts: 557 Member
    Funny that a fellow cardiologist wouldn't do more research on diets made by other, longer-working cardiologists such as Dr Atkins and Dr Agatston.
  • LowCarbForLife
    LowCarbForLife Posts: 82 Member
    I can't stand Dr. Oz. I wanna punch him in the nose! *waving fist in the air*

    Dr. Oz is a tool It ticks me off that he rates his own article in a magazine with such a far-reaching audience.

    You might enjoy reading this then:
    Dr. Oz accused of fear-mongering on apple juice
    http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_18901686

    He is definitely more celebrity than doctor and some of his advice borders on quackery.
    Look at his most famous WOE patient: Oprah. What a success story! </sarcasm>
  • dittiepe
    dittiepe Posts: 557 Member

    You might enjoy reading this then:
    Dr. Oz accused of fear-mongering on apple juice
    http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_18901686

    He is definitely more celebrity than doctor and some of his advice borders on quackery.
    Look at his most famous WOE patient: Oprah. What a success story! </sarcasm>

    I actually saw the episode he was going on about. I'd be interested in seeing a random testing on it though, just to see how quacky he is.
  • LowCarbForLife
    LowCarbForLife Posts: 82 Member
    Gary Taubes take on his appearance in the Dr. Oz circus, I mean show:

    http://www.garytaubes.com/2011/03/dose-of-intervention-land-of-dr-oz/

    To me, Oz looks like a Vulcan minus the logic. He should be thankful that the people he criticizes like Taubes above don't stoop to his low level of debate and bring up his recently discovered colon polyps.
  • martinah4
    martinah4 Posts: 583 Member
    In the article he mentions that he doesn't understand how two people with the same diet history have completely different looking levels of plaque buildup. Hmmm, worth investigating, at the least?
  • I can't stand Dr. Oz. I wanna punch him in the nose! *waving fist in the air*
    Too funny!! He does make the paranoia in me arise; I refuse to watch him. If I took his advice I wouldn't eat ANYtHING- I wonder if water is safe to drink...? I remember he said once that extreme sunlight sensitivity (with your eyes) was caused by sugar crystals in them and you ate too much sugar. That was the LAST episode I watched. I am forever with sunglasses on...
  • shar140
    shar140 Posts: 1,158 Member
    I can't stand Dr. Oz. I wanna punch him in the nose! *waving fist in the air*
    Too funny!! He does make the paranoia in me arise; I refuse to watch him. If I took his advice I wouldn't eat ANYtHING- I wonder if water is safe to drink...? I remember he said once that extreme sunlight sensitivity (with your eyes) was caused by sugar crystals in them and you ate too much sugar. That was the LAST episode I watched. I am forever with sunglasses on...

    The last Dr Oz I watched was about how he laces his shoes top to bottom (rather than bottom up)...so they tied down by his toes... :huh:

    The woosh fairy visited...4.4 lb gone! *as I munch my 4th piece of bacon :love: *
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    The last Dr Oz I watched was about how he laces his shoes top to bottom (rather than bottom up)...so they tied down by his toes... :huh:

    The woosh fairy visited...4.4 lb gone! *as I munch my 4th piece of bacon :love: *

    WOW! That's a BIG whooooosh! Great job!















    Dr. Oz is a nut job.
  • louisee294
    louisee294 Posts: 140 Member
    The last Dr Oz I watched was about how he laces his shoes top to bottom (rather than bottom up)...so they tied down by his toes... :huh:

    The woosh fairy visited...4.4 lb gone! *as I munch my 4th piece of bacon :love: *

    WOW! That's a BIG whooooosh! Great job!















    Dr. Oz is a nut job.


    Yay for the Whoosh fairy!! :)
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    I tried making a MiM last night using some protein powder (plus a little bit of heavy cream) instead of splenda and cinnamon. Didn't turn out too great. It was really tough and dry. Could only get through half of it before giving up. I did nuke it for about 2 minutes, so I don't know if it was that, or because of the protein powder.

    Any one else try something similar?
  • AlyRoseNYC
    AlyRoseNYC Posts: 1,075 Member
    I tried making a MiM last night using some protein powder (plus a little bit of heavy cream) instead of splenda and cinnamon. Didn't turn out too great. It was really tough and dry. Could only get through half of it before giving up. I did nuke it for about 2 minutes, so I don't know if it was that, or because of the protein powder.

    Any one else try something similar?

    Hmm...what about replacing 1/8c of the flax meal with 1/8 c protein powder, and leaving the splenda in?
  • dittiepe
    dittiepe Posts: 557 Member
    I just made some interesting meatballs for lunch. Hehe
    I had some ground beef left over that needed to be used, so I diced up some onion, added in minced garlic, some flax meal, and pizza sauce. When they were done cooking I threw some cheese over top and let that melt. They were like little pizza meatballs. Pretty tasty!
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    Hmmm... this might work. I added some cream to it because it was too thick. I'll try this tonight. Thanks for the suggestion! :smile:
  • All the talk about MIM made me decide to give it a try. They turned out pretty good!
  • nrtenagrl
    nrtenagrl Posts: 138 Member
    hola :)
  • AKosky585
    AKosky585 Posts: 607 Member
    Well, I was finally down a pound 2 days in a row....had way too much sodium yesterday, as my dinner was the cheese, pepperoni and mushrooms off the top of half of a large pizza,, so I was up half a pound again, but I am not worried...

    ...tonight, though, I know I wont be doing great. My best friends sister is getting married, and I opted for the chicken parmesan 3 months ago before I decided to low-carb. I just wont eat the pasta and hope the slight breading on the chicken wont throw me of too bad (or try to scrape it off) and only have ONE bite of cake. I'm trying not to eat any (or very few) carbs throughout the day so that tonight wont totally screw me!

    Hope everybody is having a great start to their weekend!
  • SueInAz
    SueInAz Posts: 6,592 Member
    Well, I was finally down a pound 2 days in a row....had way too much sodium yesterday, as my dinner was the cheese, pepperoni and mushrooms off the top of half of a large pizza,, so I was up half a pound again, but I am not worried...

    ...tonight, though, I know I wont be doing great. My best friends sister is getting married, and I opted for the chicken parmesan 3 months ago before I decided to low-carb. I just wont eat the pasta and hope the slight breading on the chicken wont throw me of too bad (or try to scrape it off) and only have ONE bite of cake. I'm trying not to eat any (or very few) carbs throughout the day so that tonight wont totally screw me!

    Hope everybody is having a great start to their weekend!
    I have my husband's 30 year reunion tonight, so I feel you.

    Here's a suggestion, stemming from the fact that I spent 5+ years working in the hotel catering business: ask your server when they are bringing around the salad course if you can switch to something else that you know is lower carb. They always make a few extra of each meal type in case more guests show than RSVP'd, and then some people don't show, so they are bound to have a couple extras of something that'll be more better for your diet.
  • It's chilly here in ohio and I found this amazing hot chocolate recipe online! It satisfied every craving I had: for warmth, chocolate, sweetness and filled my belly!
    2/3 cup water
    1/3 cup heavy cream
    Cinnamon to taste
    1/8 tsp vanilla
    2 packs splenda
    1 tablespoon cocoa powder
    Mix it all and heat! Soo good!
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