fit & butt ugly OR fat with and stunning??.

ItsCasey

There's a difference between fat and overweight, and there's a difference between attractive and stunning. I think that's the point that the people saying you can't be fat and stunningly gorgeous at the same time are trying to make.

You had a guy admit that there is such a thing as a beautiful, overweight woman, and still people jumped on him for saying that he associated "fat" with being unhealthy.

To me, fat means obese, not simply "I have 20 or 30 lbs to lose" or "I have a thin frame, but I've got a lot of flab to get rid of." And "stunning," to me, does not mean pretty or handsome; it means someone who is so good-looking that people of both sexes literally stop what they're doing to check them out.

I'm sorry, but a person who is obese is attracting that kind of attention for an entirely different reason.

123456654321

Idk, there is one of these posts like once a week and I think the fat vs ugly thing is pretty dumb. Beauty is subjective and for the most part, people CAN control their weight but people CAN'T control what features they are born with.

...That out of the way. My personal opinion is that overweight people can be attractive but at a certain point being too overweight is not attractive anymore. I don't know what you mean by "ugly" but I DO find it attractive when people take care of themselves.

porffor

This is where one of my favorite quotes comes up..."I may be fat, but you're ugly...& I can diet" ...lol

I love this!
I was verbally abused for being 'fat' on the london underground.. very very embarrassing for 30 seconds.. till my fight rose up and I said at least I'm not UGLY! To which point about 30 people who had been listening laughed out loud.. I rested my case and smiled sweetly as I got on the escalator.

He WAS ugly.. not really physcially but personally on the inside to abuse someone for being fat is ugly.

I do not judge who I like by looks, but by their personality. I have gone out with fit and stunning but they were D***'s.. I have fat and Ok looking.. and he's STUNNING in the personaltiy stakes.. I married him.

kaaatielove

<- fat & pretty

Lift_hard_eat_big

In some cultures "big is beautiful" and "skinny is disgusting"

flgirlsteph

I am butt ugly at any weight so I suck no matter what

Oh no u dont hush it

pffssas

i burned a gazillion calories laughing at the responses...thank you very much, that was all the exercise i had time for today!!!

raevynn

In some cultures "big is beautiful" and "skinny is disgusting"

Beauty of face and form is fleeting.
Beauty is a cultural construct that tends to favor the young, child-bearing aged people.

Beauty of spirit is eternal.

I'd rather be known for my kindness, my joy of life, than for either my weight, or my "looks"...

that said, I'd like to be thought of as stunning. and not in a Goddess of Wilendorf way, either...

Rae6503

Fit and ugly.

Beauty is just luck and genetics and maybe make up. Fit takes effort. It shows a lot about personality too. A ugly fit man would be likely to have similar interests to myself.

dbesle

I've seen beautiful people of all sizes. If you are the type of person that only sees the outside of a person and not the inside than you would be the ugly one. We all come in different shapes and sizes and that's how life is. I can tell you as far as fat, because I've been 343 all the way down to 190, people treat you a lot different when your large. They never give you a chance or get to know you before they judge you. Even people who were your friends will treat you different once you get big. As far as looks go well If you have to ask other people about how you look than that means your not happy so you need to get busy and change it.

juliecat1

And you cant change from that form? Im assuming thats what made it such a hot debate.
If so, Im gonna have to go with Fit and Ugly. Fit means a better quality of life and health. Besides that, beauty is more than physical features.

sandislim

I don't really know or understand the question. Fit and ugly is fine - fat and stunning is also fine. Fit and nasty, fat and nasty go take a hike. Either way I wish I was slim, I hate being fat and I do feel totally invisible as a fat person.
Sometimes just being nice to someone is beautiful, a smile. I've seen people who I was not attracted to in the least and saw them smile and totally changed my mind.

_SusieQ_

And really you can't be fat and stunningly attractive.....that is some smoke that fat people want to blow up your *kitten*.

Pardon? I am fat, by I'm sure your standards, yet stunningly attractive! Lmao

Why yes you are. *yowza!~*

LilLolo22

You can lose weight but if youre ugly you cant make pretty.

Agreed. What he said! :flowerforyou:

Scott613

What about if theyre fat and ugly or skinny and attractive? Thats an easier pick.

JsGirl93

And really you can't be fat and stunningly attractive.....that is some smoke that fat people want to blow up your *kitten*.

Pardon? I am fat, by I'm sure your standards, yet stunningly attractive! Lmao

Why yes you are. *yowza!~*

Oh, I forgot to add fit also! I kick butt at the gym!

Sus, yowza yourself! Looking hawt babe!

JsGirl93

What about if theyre fat and ugly or skinny and attractive? Thats an easier pick.

Rainbows & unicorns, Scott. Lol

anneke123456

personally I am just fat and ugly.

Shrinking_Xtina

Lmao, yupp, they just haven't met me yet. :laugh:

You people must know a lot of ugly people. There are most DEFINITELY fat and stunningly attractive people. Good God.

BigDaddyBRC

I'll choose blind and using my hands.
Beauty is in the hands that beHOLD you

SuzMac1981

I'm fat and beautiful and I have a kickass personality so I WIN!

LOL jk

I'd pick fat and attractive.

engineman312

I hate guys with big muscles, I hate skinny guys even more.

I vote for fat and attractive :bigsmile:

there is just no pleasing some ppl

rosebarnalice

It would depend ENTIRELY on which one had the best sense of humor, and twisted intellect compatible to mine.

jonesz922

Wow, your a jerk! I am overweight and I do not think I am ugly. There are many overweight people out there that are attractive! There ares some skinny people out there that may be fit and healthy but are butt ugly. Somebody should blow smoke up your butt!

I'm with you!!
I still have 70-80lbs to loose, and am in better shape than my size 2 sister in law
and pretty enough to NOT be afraid to post my face on here.
Gotta love the forum people who get their kicks on being an *kitten*. It's not what this site is about.

AI1108

fit and butt ugly OR fat with a stunningly gorgeous face??
my trainer and I got into screaming match over what men (and women) would prefer. We always debate topics like these because I understand both sides of the coin. So I am taking it to the streets of MFP. here's what my dad always used to say: Nobody wants a bone but a dog and even he wants some meat on it. :bigsmile:

SIDEBAR: so I personally believe beauty comes in ALL shapes, sizes, colors. Who can define it? INSIDE beauty is MORE important than asthetic beauty. It's interesting to see what everyone's take is. WOW. WOW. WOW. Blown away.:huh: :bigsmile: :noway:

Why does this matter? When I pick the company around me it doesn't matter what you look like as long as I like being around you. Granted there has to be some physical/sexual attraction but.. a kick *kitten* sense of humor and a fun, energetic & lovable personality and we'll get along great ;-)

solpwr

Fat is ugly.

Being fit is not ugly.

Being fit means someone is taking care of themselves. Being fat means they've let themselves go.

I find someone who is taking care of themselves more attractive than someone who has let themselves go.

I've never met someone who is fit AND fat.

livnlite

Fat is ugly.

Being fit is not ugly.

Being fit means someone is taking care of themselves. Being fat means they've let themselves go.

I find someone who is taking care of themselves more attractive than someone who has let themselves go.

I've never met someone who is fit AND fat.

Are you completely unaware of the people who have physical or medical hurdles? Nothing like rubbing a little salt on a wound.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...so who am I to say.
Ya know what I find ugly ... Someone who is mean & judgemental.

solpwr

Are you completely unaware of the people who have physical or medical hurdles? Nothing like rubbing a little salt on a wound.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...so who am I to say.
Ya know what I find ugly ... Someone who is mean & judgemental.

Yes, I am aware.

Sometimes the reality is difficult to hear. I have been fat. It was ugly. I wasn't taking care of myself. I speak from personal experience.

I've decided that for myself, I'm not going to enter into a relationship with someone who is not taking care themselves. It's not a healthy way to live.

I need someone physically, mentally, and spiritually healthy. That's how I live, and I expect that out of a mate. That's what I'm attracted to. Which is the OP's question.

It sounds mean. Life is too short to deny reality. I have to "stand in my truth".

We all must overcome hurdles. Some have very, very high hurdles; life can be extremely unfair. But everyone has to overcome their own hurdles. Success comes from getting through, around, over them. Success is beautiful, more than an attractive face.

foremant86

such a ridiculous argument in the first place.

Just because YOU think someone is ugly doesn't mean everyone else in the whole world does either and let me tell ya I've met some people that every one thinks it's so gorgeous but then you find out that person is a total POS and you realize they aren't really all that beautiful at all.

You're argument has no merit on either side. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

livnlite

Are you completely unaware of the people who have physical or medical hurdles? Nothing like rubbing a little salt on a wound.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...so who am I to say.
Ya know what I find ugly ... Someone who is mean & judgemental.

Yes, I am aware.

Sometimes the reality is difficult to hear. I have been fat. It was ugly. I wasn't taking care of myself. I speak from personal experience.

I've decided that for myself, I'm not going to enter into a relationship with someone who is not taking care themselves. It's not a healthy way to live.

I need someone physically, mentally, and spiritually healthy. That's how I live, and I expect that out of a mate. That's what I'm attracted to. Which is the OP's question.

It sounds mean. Life is too short to deny reality. I have to "stand in my truth".

We all must overcome hurdles. Some have very, very high hurdles; life can be extremely unfair. But everyone has to overcome their own hurdles. Success comes from getting through, around, over them. Success is beautiful, more than an attractive face.

REALITY?
Having a negative opinion about how someone looks and vocalizing it openly so as so completely insult or demean someone is not something I would ever consider as vocalizing 'reality' .. Do people's feelings not account for ANYTHING anymore? Have we become so insenstive, as a society, that THIS is acceptible?