Stupidest diet myths/tips you have ever heard.

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  • armymil
    armymil Posts: 163 Member
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    You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.

    My doc has a device that accurately measures your percentages of body fat vs. water vs. muscle etc. He tests me every time I come in. In the past 7 months, I have consistently lost 6-7 lb of fat & water weight per month, and gained 1 lb of muscle per month. So you're absolutely right, and yes, I have proof that you CAN build muscle while losing weight on a calorie deficit.

    If you are gaining 1lb of muscle a month as a female, then I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    Please stop with this nonsense, and git to tha choppa.

    Ha,

    can I have your autograph?
  • tiggerbounce411
    tiggerbounce411 Posts: 401 Member
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    You will build a muscle layer over fat and not burn it, it will be trapped under that muscle. Really??? Um, no.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    So, let me see if I have this right.

    I can't build muscle on a calorie deficit. Except that I can under certain conditions. So I can't, but I can.

    Muscle does not weigh more than fat, but a scale will tell me it does if I put the same amount of each on it. Which sounds like it weighs more, but it really doesn't weigh more. Nothing weighs more than anything else because a pound is a pound, and if you live outside the US you are just SOL for not having a scale that measures in pounds.
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 528 Member
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    "I am not going to pass on an apple and sit down to a plate full of bacon."

    Yea, that is what a low carb. diet is all about. Maybe you need more carbs. For that brain you were talking about.

    Obviously you have no idea what a low carb diet is or these comments would not be stated.

    A low carb lifestyle consists of eating WHOLE foods in the form of proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. Some low / controlled carb lifestyles such as Atkins you will add back in dairy, grains, legumes later as you move up the carb ladder.

    Please stop with the nonsense or it will be reported, the smart alleck comments are not going to be tolerated as there are MANY of us here that are on Low Carb Lifestyle plans because we have PCOS, Diabetes, Thyroid disorders or even epilepsy.

    Stop making the comments to put others down, especially when you are spouting a bunch of nonsense.

    I was not clear in my original post - I was aiming that statement at super low carb and no-carb diets. I think we all struggle to find that right balance of macro nutrients that satisfies us, keeps us healthy and helps us lose. Low carb works great for a lot of people... what scares me is when people talk about eating absolutley no carbs. Or limiting carbs so low that it may as well be none.

    For the record - I did not spout nonsese. I said I will not pass on an apple to sit down to a plate full of bacon. That is just something I am not going to do. I would feel ill afterwords and I am just not going to do it. I have read diets that recommended high amounts of fatty protein and forbids fruits b/c of the carbs. That has absolutley nothing to do with what you eat. I have no idea what you eat. There are a lot of people out there who think low carb means bacon instead of apples - THOSE are the people I was knocking. NOT YOU. And CERTAINLY not anyone with "PCOS, Diabetes, Thyroid disorders or even epilepsy." Good grief!

    I thought this was supposed to be a thread about silly things people had heard. Passing on apples to eat bacon IS silly.
  • Bankman1989
    Bankman1989 Posts: 1,116 Member
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    First of all.....................Stupidest isnt a word..... lol

    To answer your question:

    Eliminating carbs entirely is a best practice..... MmmmHmm Sure it is.
    You can gain muscle over night...
    Soda is acceptable as long as its *diet*.....
    Diet pills work.............
    It doesnt matter WHERE my calories come from as long as Im under...
    You dont have to exercise..................
    I can eat *healthy* at Mcdonalds..................... Going to McDonalds for a salad is like going to a *kitten* for a hug.... Riiiight...

    Actually, it doesn't matter where your calories come from as long as you're under and you hit your macros (fat, carbs and proteins). I don't exclude any food from my diet. Now I'm not advocating eating McDonald's every day but I do eat it. You've got to have fun with it too. All of this extreme clean eating sounds a lot like orthorexia to me.

    So............... I can eat ONLY Ice cream sundae's every single day for the rest of my life and be ripped............. As long as I stay under my calorie goal for the day? Mmmm Nope. Im not saying you have to eat squeaky clean every single day- but for general health it DOES matter WHAT you eat.


    ACTUALLY THIS IS CORRECT.

    Michael Phelps is a great example. He consumes 12,000 calories a day. His metabolic rate is so high he burns whatever he eats. Would I try this? Heck no! But my son is like this. He's 21 and has been swimming since he was 5. He's always been ripped to shreds.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Michael-Phelps-eats-12-000-calories-per-day?urn=oly-100671
    Wed Aug 13 09:15pm EDT

    Michael Phelps eats 12,000 calories per day
    By Chris Chase
    After he retires from swimming, Michael Phelps might want to try his hand at competitive eating. The Olympic star recently said he consumes 12,000 calories per day, or 9,500 more than the FDA recommends for an active, young male.

    Phelps has to keep his intake up in order to compensate for all the calories he burns during the 30-hours per week he spends in training. He told NBC that an average day might have the following menu:

    Breakfast: 3 fried egg sandwiches, 2 cups coffee, 5-egg omlette, bowl of grits, 3 pieces of french toast, 3 chocolate chip pancakes

    Lunch: 1 pound pasta, 2 ham and cheese sandwiches, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    Dinner: 1 pound pasta, 1 large pizza, energy drink (1,000 calorie)

    Three years ago, Phelps told an interviewer:

    I eat pretty much whatever I want. I don't have a strict diet. It's all about cramming in as many calories into my system as I possibly can. To be honest with you, I have a tough time keeping weight on.

    Michael better be careful there. There's no surer way to turn new female fans into former female fans than by complaining about how hard it is to keep on weight.

    Photo via Getty Images


    SO ITS not FOR EVERYONE BUT IT IS POSSIBLE..UNLESS YOU THINK MICHAEL PHELPS IS FAT!
  • PB67
    PB67 Posts: 376
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    The number one all time stupid myth: YOU NEED CARBS FOR ENERGY.

    Amen. Do they give you energy? Yes. Do you NEED them in order to have energy? No.

    This ^

    And another stupid myth: YOUR BRAIN NEEDS CARBS. WRONG! YOUR BRAIN NEEDS FAT!!

    You couldn't be more wrong.

    Your brain does not need fat at all, in fact it can only use ketone bodies for up to 70% of its energy needs. This ONLY happens if glucose is unavailable.
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 528 Member
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    "I am not going to pass on an apple and sit down to a plate full of bacon."

    Yea, that is what a low carb. diet is all about. Maybe you need more carbs. For that brain you were talking about.

    My brains are confused... where did I say all people doing low carb eat plates of bacon and pass on apples? Your low carb diet may not be all about that. I would hope that most weren't. But there are some that do... they do pass on the fruits and the veggies and eat the plateful of steak and bacon.

    How many brains do you have?

    All of them.

    Well that would explain a lot....can I please have mine back??

    Sorry - nope. I am on the zombie diet. I stock up on brains. High protein... low carb.

    But I needz it :sad:

    I can't figure out how to post pictures... ~sigh~ I picked out a nice Zombie wanting brains...
  • AI1108
    AI1108 Posts: 488 Member
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    You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
    Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!
    Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat

    Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?

    By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet


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  • DiamondInTheDirt
    DiamondInTheDirt Posts: 117 Member
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    I'm still reeling from someone saying that "stupidest" isn't a word. :huh:

    So is it a word? Because the person who said it made me feel stupid for using the word in my topic lol
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Obviously you have no idea what a low carb diet is or these comments would not be stated.

    A low carb lifestyle consists of eating WHOLE foods in the form of proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. Some low / controlled carb lifestyles such as Atkins you will add back in dairy, grains, legumes later as you move up the carb ladder.

    I have no problem with anyone eating whatever diet they want, including low carb. But to suggest that everyone eating a low carb diet eats WHOLE foods is not true. There are plenty of non-whole food low carb options out there and people eat them. Atkins has a whole line of low carb processed foods.
  • soniaa777
    soniaa777 Posts: 126 Member
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    i think some of the doctors that advise try just 2 glasses of coke, instead of the whole bottle is trying to be realistic and they assume that the person seeing them will more likely cut back on soda than stop it all together if advised. they should give more strict advise and at least a real plan to try out.
  • nanodot
    nanodot Posts: 154 Member
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    You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
    Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!

    Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat

    Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?

    By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet

    I am currently on a cut, and I'm gaining strength but not building muscle. The strength gains are minimal, but they are still gains. Building new muscle tissue comes from:

    1. Calorie surplus
    2. Being morbidly obese and using fat stores as energy (calories) to build minimal tissue.
    3. Beginner lifting (newbie gains) or returning to weight training after a long break. (Also minimal gains)
    4. Steroids

    Period.

    ^^ THIS... 100%


    Of course your body can operate at a deficit and build muscle at the same time. You do need some fat to burn, but kids in Boot camp do it all the time, and they aren't morbidly obese. If you give your body an imperative to build muscle, It will burn fat to build muscle. The body is smart and adaptable.

    I remember watching some PBS show about people pretending to be settlers from the 1800's, actually farming by hand and building cabins and stuff. This one guy was ordinary-American-plump-and-wimpy at the start of the show. By the end of the show (12 weeks?) he was RIPPED with muscle, skinny, and actually starting to worry about starving to death because he was a lousy farmer. But he sure built muscle in a deficit.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    I'm still reeling from someone saying that "stupidest" isn't a word. :huh:

    So is it a word? Because the person who said it made me feel stupid for using the word in my topic lol

    www.dictionary.com says it is a word.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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    "I am not going to pass on an apple and sit down to a plate full of bacon."

    Yea, that is what a low carb. diet is all about. Maybe you need more carbs. For that brain you were talking about.

    Obviously you have no idea what a low carb diet is or these comments would not be stated.

    A low carb lifestyle consists of eating WHOLE foods in the form of proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. Some low / controlled carb lifestyles such as Atkins you will add back in dairy, grains, legumes later as you move up the carb ladder.

    Please stop with the nonsense or it will be reported, the smart alleck comments are not going to be tolerated as there are MANY of us here that are on Low Carb Lifestyle plans because we have PCOS, Diabetes, Thyroid disorders or even epilepsy.

    Stop making the comments to put others down, especially when you are spouting a bunch of nonsense.

    I was not clear in my original post - I was aiming that statement at super low carb and no-carb diets. I think we all struggle to find that right balance of macro nutrients that satisfies us, keeps us healthy and helps us lose. Low carb works great for a lot of people... what scares me is when people talk about eating absolutley no carbs. Or limiting carbs so low that it may as well be none.

    For the record - I did not spout nonsese. I said I will not pass on an apple to sit down to a plate full of bacon. That is just something I am not going to do. I would feel ill afterwords and I am just not going to do it. I have read diets that recommended high amounts of fatty protein and forbids fruits b/c of the carbs. That has absolutley nothing to do with what you eat. I have no idea what you eat. There are a lot of people out there who think low carb means bacon instead of apples - THOSE are the people I was knocking. NOT YOU. And CERTAINLY not anyone with "PCOS, Diabetes, Thyroid disorders or even epilepsy." Good grief!

    I thought this was supposed to be a thread about silly things people had heard. Passing on apples to eat bacon IS silly.

    Well, you are knocking someone who has PCOS, Diabetes and Thyroid disorder who has been ORDERED by a Registered Dietician and her Diabetic Endocrinologist to NOT consume more than 10 grams of carbs PER DAY to control my blood sugar because my thyroid is rebelling against my body and building up antibodies which is making it virtually impossible for me to lose any weight at all..............

    So, I can no longer eat ANY fruit and I eat very low carb vegetables so that I can stay at or under the 10 grams of carbs per day.

    Yes, I find it offensive to come in and make silly remarks about a lifestyle that others use to get better health gains and get off of medication.

    We don't make silly jokes about those of you that are counting calories, so you all should watch your sharp tongues with your silly jokes and such.

    You never know what someone else is going through until you have walked a mile in THEIR shoes.
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 528 Member
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    I'm still reeling from someone saying that "stupidest" isn't a word. :huh:

    So is it a word? Because the person who said it made me feel stupid for using the word in my topic lol

    www.dictionary.com says it is a word.

    I feel stupider.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Of course your body can operate at a deficit and build muscle at the same time. You do need some fat to burn, but kids in Boot camp do it all the time, and they aren't morbidly obese. If you give your body an imperative to build muscle, It will burn fat to build muscle. The body is smart and adaptable.

    I remember watching some PBS show about people pretending to be settlers from the 1800's, actually farming by hand and building cabins and stuff. This one guy was ordinary-American-plump-and-wimpy at the start of the show. By the end of the show (12 weeks?) he was RIPPED with muscle, skinny, and actually starting to worry about starving to death because he was a lousy farmer. But he sure built muscle in a deficit.

    ::facepalm::

    shhhhhhh
  • DiamondInTheDirt
    DiamondInTheDirt Posts: 117 Member
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    I'm still reeling from someone saying that "stupidest" isn't a word. :huh:

    So is it a word? Because the person who said it made me feel stupid for using the word in my topic lol

    www.dictionary.com says it is a word.

    Brilliant! Now i dont have to feel bad haha
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
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    Obviously you have no idea what a low carb diet is or these comments would not be stated.

    A low carb lifestyle consists of eating WHOLE foods in the form of proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. Some low / controlled carb lifestyles such as Atkins you will add back in dairy, grains, legumes later as you move up the carb ladder.

    I have no problem with anyone eating whatever diet they want, including low carb. But to suggest that everyone eating a low carb diet eats WHOLE foods is not true. There are plenty of non-whole food low carb options out there and people eat them. Atkins has a whole line of low carb processed foods.

    Yes, I know this and that is why I am no longer on the Atkins plan.......................The Atkins plan might as well have died when Dr ATkins died because Atkins Nutritionals has taken Dr Atkins WHOLE FOODS eating plan to a whole other level.

    A low / controlled carb lifestyle SHOULD be based on a WHOLE FOODS eating plan. I know there are those that don't follow this, but I do.
  • Uerzer
    Uerzer Posts: 273
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    The number one all time stupid myth: YOU NEED CARBS FOR ENERGY.

    Amen. Do they give you energy? Yes. Do you NEED them in order to have energy? No.

    This ^

    And another stupid myth: YOUR BRAIN NEEDS CARBS. WRONG! YOUR BRAIN NEEDS FAT!!

    You couldn't be more wrong.

    Your brain does not need fat at all, in fact it can only use ketone bodies for up to 70% of its energy needs. This ONLY happens if glucose is unavailable.

    Agreed!
  • Suziq2you
    Suziq2you Posts: 396 Member
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    The number one all time stupid myth: YOU NEED CARBS FOR ENERGY.

    Amen. Do they give you energy? Yes. Do you NEED them in order to have energy? No.

    This ^

    And another stupid myth: YOUR BRAIN NEEDS CARBS. WRONG! YOUR BRAIN NEEDS FAT!!

    You couldn't be more wrong.

    Your brain does not need fat at all, in fact it can only use ketone bodies for up to 70% of its energy needs. This ONLY happens if glucose is unavailable.

    Right now my brain needs a Tylenol.