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  • Scorpioangel
    Scorpioangel Posts: 951 Member
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    I use Shakeology almost every day. I see by looking at this thread that people are getting rather heated about it and that is not my intent (to contribute to any online arguments). I can say that I have tried several different types of shakes from GNC and think that Shakeology is the best for MY needs. A lot of people state that it is too pricey which may be true depending on what your budget is or what you want to spend. I found cheaper shakes at other places but the tastes did not suit my tastebuds at all. That is MY personal experience. I love Shakeology and it suits my needs. I blend it in with ice, milk (or water depending), a scoop of whey and a tablespoon of peanut butter and get a delicious breakfast :) I know everyone has different needs but for me I love it and that is why I keep buying it! It has given me more energy (I don't feel like I am about to fall asleep in the middle of the day anymore) and I have noticed my headaches are a lot less frequent since I have been regularly using it. I am open minded and whatever works best for my needs I will use. You can get Shakeology through a Beachbody coach if you have one or directly through Beachbody. If you had specific questions on it please inbox me and I'll do my best to answer them :)
  • Scorpioangel
    Scorpioangel Posts: 951 Member
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    I wanted to add I haven't lost weight using it mainly because I am at my goal weight and don't need to or want to. I love it and it fits my schedule.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    What are your needs that these things provide that other products do not? ie... whey shake with a mild stimulant/appetite supressant? I note that you use milk , P&B and additional whey when you mix. Is taste a major factor? The ON whey chocolate is an excellent tasting drink.
  • klynnwalker4
    klynnwalker4 Posts: 21
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    I love Shakeology <3 It's only $4 a serving which is a meal. People don't have a problem paying that for a Starbucks drink or junk from McDonalds.. People need to learn to invest in their health.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
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    I love Shakeology <3 It's only $4 a serving which is a meal. People don't have a problem paying that for a Starbucks drink or junk from McDonalds.. People need to learn to invest in their health.

    The problem is the mindset that a drink is a meal.
  • Barneystinson
    Barneystinson Posts: 1,357 Member
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    I love Shakeology <3 It's only $4 a serving which is a meal. People don't have a problem paying that for a Starbucks drink or junk from McDonalds.. People need to learn to invest in their health.

    The problem is the mindset that a drink is a meal.

    Yes. This.

    It's one thing to use protein / nutritional shakes to supplement, but as "meal replacement" it's not so great in the long run.

    And personally as a generally cheap shopper, I always get pretty chapped when I see the "people don't have a problem paying that for a Starbucks drink or McD's" stuff. Who does that honestly apply to? People who burn through money like candy everyday?
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    The one guy that posted a decent reply also puts milk, whey and peanut butter into his. Making it more expensive per serving.
  • LittleD311
    LittleD311 Posts: 618 Member
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    I love my shakeology, my body is totally different with being on it!
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    Your body would most likely be that way with alot of other similar/cheaper products also.
  • hush7hush
    hush7hush Posts: 2,273 Member
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    Lol.

    You really aren't arguing anything. I haven't really seen one valid point is the problem. If state why you think it works for you and what is so amazing then it would help!

    Seems like you are just trying to sell it to us. We are smart enough not to pay the outrageous price ^-^
    SELL????? did you hear me selling anything? am i bb coach? NO! so hush it up! thanks

    Ahem. Don't tell me to hush up.

    Good thing you aren't a bb coach. Wouldn't be selling anything. Ha

    Seriously. Do some research, you seem quite clueless.

    Can we stop throwing around my name? :P
  • trybefan
    trybefan Posts: 488 Member
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    Shakeology boards are my favorite!!!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,701 Member
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    I love Shakeology <3 It's only $4 a serving which is a meal. People don't have a problem paying that for a Starbucks drink or junk from McDonalds.. People need to learn to invest in their health.
    That's $120 a month for one meal a day. I can spend $120 on a weeks worth of groceries for 3. What's the better investment?

    A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
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  • tinkphoenix
    tinkphoenix Posts: 21 Member
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    I love Shakeology <3 It's only $4 a serving which is a meal. People don't have a problem paying that for a Starbucks drink or junk from McDonalds.. People need to learn to invest in their health.
    That's $120 a month for one meal a day. I can spend $120 on a weeks worth of groceries for 3. What's the better investment?

    You are talking from the perspective of a person that 1) wants to shop, 2) lives a healthy lifestyle, and 3) knows how to cook and put the right things into his body. When you look at most of the population and realize the 2/3 of them are overweight or obese, that is obviously not the case. Shakeology is a great product and it contains much more than just protein and a multi-vitamin. Yes, it does work, but does it mean it's going to save everyone in the world or that everyone needs it? No. But if you are overweight, swapping it out with your $4-$5 meal at Starbucks or McDonalds or any other fast food joint will do you wonders.

    In respect to the fact that it's an MLM (i.e. direct sales), who cares? OMG, the only people that have good things to say about it were "dumb enough" to sign on as coaches and make money from it? Oh no, shoot them. I guess when you go into your local GNC, you don't care that they also have 100% markup on their products and that goes to support paying their employees, paying for the storefront, utility bills, etc. The manufacturer has the same problem...they pay for machines, people, benefits, etc, so when you think about it, about .05 cents of every dollar you spend at GNC was for the "quality" ingredients you are purchasing there too.

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  • Barneystinson
    Barneystinson Posts: 1,357 Member
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    Right, but the percentage markup on MLM products tends to be much higher to support that particular business model.
  • tinkphoenix
    tinkphoenix Posts: 21 Member
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    Right, but the percentage markup on MLM products tends to be much higher to support that particular business model.

    And you know this because you are an expert in how much stores markup their products versus MLMs? have you research, a paper, a model, an article? Or is this just based on your ASSUMPTION of how the model works?
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    $3 to $4 a shake is a pretty good indication of markup.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Right, but the percentage markup on MLM products tends to be much higher to support that particular business model.

    And you know this because you are an expert in how much stores markup their products versus MLMs? have you research, a paper, a model, an article? Or is this just based on your ASSUMPTION of how the model works?

    yay someone who is a certified trainer and nutritionist, i've been trying to get these questions answered, maybe you can?

    I'm possibly interested in trying out shakeology, but before i do, I'd like the following questions answered. So no PMs or anything like that until these questions are answered in the thread. Thanks!

    1. Is shakeology manufactured in a facility meeting the following complience standards?
    NSF Certification Guideline 306
    NSF GMP Registration Policies
    GMP requirements in NSF/ANSI Standard 173 Section 8
    NNfA GMP Certified

    2. Can you provide any 3rd party COAs for shakeolgy?

    3. Since shakeology is a MRP, why does it not use slower digesting proteins such as micellar casein or a blend of proteins?

    4. Shakeolgy is touted as low GI certified, what relavance does that have to the avg person and why are their shakeology recipes on the site which would then change the GI of the shake?

    5. Why does it use cyanocobalmin instead of methylcobalin?

    6. why does it use only the alpha from of tocophenyl instead of a full spectrum of tocerpherols and tocotrienols (alpha, beta, delta, gamma)?

    7. why does it use plain niacin instead of inositol hexanicotinate?

    8. why does it use just beta catrotene instead of both alpha and beta carotenes?

    9. according to the marketing material shakeolgy "Shakeology was specially formulated for the collection of ingredients to work together like a symphony" can you provide any peer reviewed researching showing that all the compounds esp in the prop blends work synergistically and are in the proper amounts? Just off the top of my head i know that zinc depends on copper for optimum utilization, optimally in a 10 to 1 ratio (shakeology has a 7.5:1 ratio, which may lead to the suppression of copper-based antioxidant enzymes)

    10. since there is an abundant use of prop blends, how can i tell if all the extra ingredients are in their optimal dosages that have shown benefits to humans or just label filler?

    these are just a few i have off the top of my head after looking label and website
  • Barneystinson
    Barneystinson Posts: 1,357 Member
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    Right, but the percentage markup on MLM products tends to be much higher to support that particular business model.

    And you know this because you are an expert in how much stores markup their products versus MLMs? have you research, a paper, a model, an article? Or is this just based on your ASSUMPTION of how the model works?

    It's perception of the market and perception of the uniqueness and usability of the product itself.

    Consumer pricepoint - $120
    Coach pricepoint - $89
    There's a 25% markup passed on to the consumer alone, disregarding whatever markup is placed on the actual product cost to cover all other expenses and downstream cost.

    It's not a jab directed ONLY at Beachbody, but most MLM companies follow a similar model. I'm familiar with the pricing and payout structures of Pampered Chef, Tastefully Simple, and PartyLite. Each business has core products sold at a price 10-15% higher than the market average for similar product. Maybe higher in the case of PartyLite - I think the last time I looked they were about 25% higher than their Yankee Candle competition. Is the product of higher quality than its direct competition? Much of the time I'd base that solely on genuine user reviews.

    To combat the higher than average price, the companies create a "distinction" that their product is unique and of higher quality than their competitors. Is it? Generally is speculation. Each MLM may have a handful of core products that are unique to their brand which CAN sell at a higher price point as they have little competition in their league. P90X is a good example of this. It is a unique product, albeit an MLM product, that is priced competitively within similar non-MLM home workout programs - example: Cathe Friedrich's STS system.

    The issue with Shakeology is that its most commonly identified meal replacement competitors - "Greens" smoothies, protein powders, vitamin supplements, etc, while some would argue as being "inferior" are still viewed by customers as viable competition. Even the P90X recovery drink. albeit on the higher pricepoint, still falls into a reasonable level of competition with post-workout glycogen restoring supplements. Shakeology costs can cost 75%-100% more than these competitors. Arguably in a good business model you'd be shooting for 10-30% cost difference. Shakeology could be better marketed as an X-day cleanse kit. Considering competition such as Blueprint Cleanse goes for a $350 asking price, the Shakeology would be a bargain.

    I've purchased Shakeology in the past while I was part of the P90X craze as a post-workout meal. While not fond of the taste, I can see some of the attraction to the long list of vitamins, minerals, herbals, etc. on the ingredient list. I'm enough a skeptic, however, that I'm dubious of the benefits and went back to el-cheapo Myoplex and multivitamins.

    As for my experience, well, I'm just another idiot who manages sales analysis for a major corporation.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,701 Member
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    You are talking from the perspective of a person that 1) wants to shop, 2) lives a healthy lifestyle, and 3) knows how to cook and put the right things into his body. When you look at most of the population and realize the 2/3 of them are overweight or obese, that is obviously not the case. Shakeology is a great product and it contains much more than just protein and a multi-vitamin. Yes, it does work, but does it mean it's going to save everyone in the world or that everyone needs it? No. But if you are overweight, swapping it out with your $4-$5 meal at Starbucks or McDonalds or any other fast food joint will do you wonders.

    In respect to the fact that it's an MLM (i.e. direct sales), who cares? OMG, the only people that have good things to say about it were "dumb enough" to sign on as coaches and make money from it? Oh no, shoot them. I guess when you go into your local GNC, you don't care that they also have 100% markup on their products and that goes to support paying their employees, paying for the storefront, utility bills, etc. The manufacturer has the same problem...they pay for machines, people, benefits, etc, so when you think about it, about .05 cents of every dollar you spend at GNC was for the "quality" ingredients you are purchasing there too.

    Jeanette Goodrich
    NASM Certified Personal Trainer
    NASM Certified Fitness Nutrtition Specialist
    Certified Group Exercise Instructor: PiYo Strength, STRIDE, RIPPED, Hip Hop Hustle
    IDEA Fitness Member
    Bootcamp Owner
    The question posed was "investment" in health. The cost doesn't equate to getting more in health.


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    IDEA Fitness member
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    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,701 Member
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    And you know this because you are an expert in how much stores markup their products versus MLMs? have you research, a paper, a model, an article? Or is this just based on your ASSUMPTION of how the model works?
    ANY MLM is a "profit sharing" scheme amongst sales people and their uplines. When someone sells a Shake, there's at least 3 or more that benefit profit wise.
    If a clerk sells you a TV, they DON'T directly profit from it and nor does the the guy that puts it in your truck.
    Big difference.


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