HONEY IS NOT VEGAN!!!

JerseyGirlHeart

Sick of vegans consuming honey calling them selfs "vegans" Honey is made from bees. Bees might be invertebrates but they are in the ANIMAL kingdom. Just saying.

barbiecat

: Honey bees collect pollen and nectar in the spring when most flowers and plants are in bloom. They use their long, tubelike tongues like straws (called proboscis) to suck the nectar out of the flowers and they store it in their stomachs and carry it to the beehive. While inside the bee's stomach for about half an hour, the nectar mixes with the proteins and enzymes produced by the bees, converting the nectar into honey. The bees then drop the honey into the beeswax comb, which are hexagonal cells made of wax produced by the bees, and repeat the process until the combs are full. To prepare for long-term storage, the bees fan their wings to evaporate and thicken the honey (note: nectar is 80% water and honey is about 14-18% water). When this is done, the bees cap the honeycomb with wax and move on to the next empty comb, starting all over again. So, in a nutshell, the honey we eat is flower nectar that honey bees have collected, regurgitated and dehydrated to enhance its nutritional properties.


I could be argued that honey is made by bees not made from bees.......however many vegans do not eat honey.

epona_mus

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

BlueLikeJazz

While I certainly see your point, and agree in the logic of it, all these labels of various forms of food-eating kind of drive me nuts, especially when someone is made to feel like they're not in the "cool club" any more because they bend one of the "rules." When I was vegan, I became afraid to tell anyone about it because I'd either get the "ew, why?" reaction or the "oh, well do you eat/use/wear _____? because that has ______ in it which is in some way derived from animals." And I was a total stickler about it, too, spending hours grocery-shopping so I could check labels, using the expensive-*kitten* vegan brands of cosmetics, etc. It got old.

So while you're technically right, I think we could all do a little more worrying about what's being put into our own bodies and less about what others are doing. I applaud anyone who makes any effort whatsoever to consume less animal products, they're doing a good thing.

krist3ng

Ahh! scary topic name! I feel like I just got yelled at!

Jane_dxb

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

Could not agree more!

risefromruin

Well this is a hot debate

epona_mus

And, if you want to be completely dogmatic in approach, eating a vegan diet qualifies someone as a vegan about as much as eating a kosher diet qualifies someone as Jewish.

So don't eat honey, but eat a non-organic piece of fruit that killed hundreds of insects in its production... um, okay.

Bellyroll

: Honey bees collect pollen and nectar in the spring when most flowers and plants are in bloom. They use their long, tubelike tongues like straws (called proboscis) to suck the nectar out of the flowers and they store it in their stomachs and carry it to the beehive. While inside the bee's stomach for about half an hour, the nectar mixes with the proteins and enzymes produced by the bees, converting the nectar into honey. The bees then drop the honey into the beeswax comb, which are hexagonal cells made of wax produced by the bees, and repeat the process until the combs are full. To prepare for long-term storage, the bees fan their wings to evaporate and thicken the honey (note: nectar is 80% water and honey is about 14-18% water). When this is done, the bees cap the honeycomb with wax and move on to the next empty comb, starting all over again. So, in a nutshell, the honey we eat is flower nectar that honey bees have collected, regurgitated and dehydrated to enhance its nutritional properties.


I could be argued that honey is made by bees not made from bees.......however many vegans do not eat honey.

So cool thanks for the explanation

bens_momma

Oh no, so this entire time that I've been eating honey, I've been eating something made from bees?!

Time to boycott honey, just like how orange juice has been boycotted because it contains (shall we say it) /piece of oranges/.

OH THE HUMANITY! :sad:

JerseyGirlHeart

Ya'll make me giggle. I am not a vegan judging other vegans. I eat mostly vegan but I am not putting a label on it. I just find it funny that people who say they are strict vegans still eat honey, in which bees in most cases, are produced for the main production of honey. Like let's say, factory farming...If you are a true vegan, in my opinion, you do not support the cause for anything that has been the product of an animal. Like wearing silk (silkworms) or leather or fur or anything of that matter.

JerseyGirlHeart

Oh no, so this entire time that I've been eating honey, I've been eating something made from bees?!

Time to boycott honey, just like how orange juice has been boycotted because it contains (shall we say it) /piece of oranges/.

OH THE HUMANITY! :sad:

Man since oranges have feelings too right?

JerseyGirlHeart

And, if you want to be completely dogmatic in approach, eating a vegan diet qualifies someone as a vegan about as much as eating a kosher diet qualifies someone as Jewish.

So don't eat honey, but eat a non-organic piece of fruit that killed hundreds of insects in its production... um, okay.

I eat organic. Most vegans try to.

Sidesteal

I hate how paleo people use the internet and computers... and.... cars and stuff.

JerseyGirlHeart

While I certainly see your point, and agree in the logic of it, all these labels of various forms of food-eating kind of drive me nuts, especially when someone is made to feel like they're not in the "cool club" any more because they bend one of the "rules." When I was vegan, I became afraid to tell anyone about it because I'd either get the "ew, why?" reaction or the "oh, well do you eat/use/wear _____? because that has ______ in it which is in some way derived from animals." And I was a total stickler about it, too, spending hours grocery-shopping so I could check labels, using the expensive-*kitten* vegan brands of cosmetics, etc. It got old.

So while you're technically right, I think we could all do a little more worrying about what's being put into our own bodies and less about what others are doing. I applaud anyone who makes any effort whatsoever to consume less animal products, they're doing a good thing.

Thank you. I just wanted to bring it up because I got a face palm when a vegan said they still eat honey. It's like a vegetarian saying they still eat fish. The eff?!

MrsCon40

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

THIS

Never a more judgmental group to be found.

- a vegan who quit publicly identifying herself as such because I didn't care for the unrelenting scrutiny and sanctimony.

Yakisoba

They're beegans. Get it?

lololol -_-

JerseyGirlHeart

: Honey bees collect pollen and nectar in the spring when most flowers and plants are in bloom. They use their long, tubelike tongues like straws (called proboscis) to suck the nectar out of the flowers and they store it in their stomachs and carry it to the beehive. While inside the bee's stomach for about half an hour, the nectar mixes with the proteins and enzymes produced by the bees, converting the nectar into honey. The bees then drop the honey into the beeswax comb, which are hexagonal cells made of wax produced by the bees, and repeat the process until the combs are full. To prepare for long-term storage, the bees fan their wings to evaporate and thicken the honey (note: nectar is 80% water and honey is about 14-18% water). When this is done, the bees cap the honeycomb with wax and move on to the next empty comb, starting all over again. So, in a nutshell, the honey we eat is flower nectar that honey bees have collected, regurgitated and dehydrated to enhance its nutritional properties.


I could be argued that honey is made by bees not made from bees.......however many vegans do not eat honey.



As much as this is pretty interesting, it would be more valid if honey magically was produced from flowers and it was extracted, and this is obviously not the case. Bees help the production and are being farmed just like many other animals for their by products

JerseyGirlHeart

I hate how paleo people use the internet and computers... and.... cars and stuff.

Paleo people eat meat

MrsCon40

I am not a vegan judging other vegans. I eat mostly vegan but...

:noway:

NoAdditives

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

I'm just sick of vegans.

rockerbabyy

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

I'm just sick of vegans.

heh i was telling hubby about this thread, and he said the same thing

JerseyGirlHeart

I am not a vegan judging other vegans. I eat mostly vegan but...

:noway:

never said i was an actually vegan, did i? i just had an opinion and i shared it. i like vegan food, what can i say

DrBorkBork

I hate how paleo people use the internet and computers... and.... cars and stuff.

what does this even have to do with this thread?

paleo is, like, the anti-vegan. Paleo-ites believe that meat is murder... tasty, tasty murder.

JerseyGirlHeart

I am not a vegan judging other vegans. I eat mostly vegan but...

:noway:

never said i was an actually vegan, did i? i just had an opinion and i shared it. i like vegan food, what can i say

muitobem

While I certainly see your point, and agree in the logic of it, all these labels of various forms of food-eating kind of drive me nuts, especially when someone is made to feel like they're not in the "cool club" any more because they bend one of the "rules." When I was vegan, I became afraid to tell anyone about it because I'd either get the "ew, why?" reaction or the "oh, well do you eat/use/wear _____? because that has ______ in it which is in some way derived from animals." And I was a total stickler about it, too, spending hours grocery-shopping so I could check labels, using the expensive-*kitten* vegan brands of cosmetics, etc. It got old.

So while you're technically right, I think we could all do a little more worrying about what's being put into our own bodies and less about what others are doing. I applaud anyone who makes any effort whatsoever to consume less animal products, they're doing a good thing.

Thank you. I just wanted to bring it up because I got a face palm when a vegan said they still eat honey. It's like a vegetarian saying they still eat fish. The eff?!

Unless they're a Pescatarian...then, they eat fish.

JerseyGirlHeart

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

I'm just sick of vegans.

i am sick of everyone. i DGAF what people eat, people are still disappointing.

MrsCon40

I am not a vegan judging other vegans. I eat mostly vegan but...

:noway:

never said i was an actually vegan, did i? i just had an opinion and i shared it. i like vegan food, what can i say

Then this would appear to be an incendiary topic you are not qualified to start.

DrBorkBork

I'm just sick of vegans.

Why? Have you eaten a lot of them recently?

JerseyGirlHeart

While I certainly see your point, and agree in the logic of it, all these labels of various forms of food-eating kind of drive me nuts, especially when someone is made to feel like they're not in the "cool club" any more because they bend one of the "rules." When I was vegan, I became afraid to tell anyone about it because I'd either get the "ew, why?" reaction or the "oh, well do you eat/use/wear _____? because that has ______ in it which is in some way derived from animals." And I was a total stickler about it, too, spending hours grocery-shopping so I could check labels, using the expensive-*kitten* vegan brands of cosmetics, etc. It got old.

So while you're technically right, I think we could all do a little more worrying about what's being put into our own bodies and less about what others are doing. I applaud anyone who makes any effort whatsoever to consume less animal products, they're doing a good thing.

Thank you. I just wanted to bring it up because I got a face palm when a vegan said they still eat honey. It's like a vegetarian saying they still eat fish. The eff?!

Unless they're a Pescatarian...then, they eat fish.

yes i know this, they can call themselves that, but not a vegetarian.

MrsCon40

Sick of veg*ns judging other veg*ns. Just sayin'.

I'm just sick of vegans.

i am sick of everyone. i DGAF what people eat, people are still disappointing.

You are rich.

You get on here and pass judgment on what vegans are allowed to eat yet you DGAF?

Hilar.

Disappointment, your name is Judgy McJudgerston