please tell me i'm not the only one.

thesmellofapples
thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
edited October 6 in Chit-Chat
i really want to move out of the country before the government takes away all of my rights completely. with all of the new laws being passed to censor people's opinions in the media, increasing the taxes, and rick perry trying to run for president, i want to get out asap. people think i'm joking but i just have this feeling that things are going to take a turn for the worse very shortly. anybody else in america feeling this way right now?
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  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
    I'm somewhat tempted to jump ship to Canada.
    On the other hand it feels wrong to just give up instead of fight to make things better here.
  • Sd0510
    Sd0510 Posts: 295 Member
    My fiance hates all things government and would want to do the same, but there is no way we can afford that.

    He also said there was a bill trying to get passed that could imprision people without trial or evidence, but I don't know if that's true.
  • thesmellofapples
    thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
    I'm somewhat tempted to jump ship to Canada.
    On the other hand it feels wrong to just give up instead of fight to make things better here.

    i've been contemplating canada. but the way things are turning out - it seems to me like OWS protesters are going to start being beaten or arrested for trying to change anything. the same thing going on in syria and what happened in egypt this past january. and they've BEEN fighting to no avail.
  • cobracars
    cobracars Posts: 949 Member
    Relax, you're just suffering from media overexposure.

    No matter where you go you won't be as well off as you are here in the USA.

    The same things have been going on since not only the 1960's, but all the way back to the early 1800's.

    People have also been predicting the end of the world for the past several hundred years.

    My sister is falling prey to some of these people who are promoting their scare tactics. They say the fecal matter is going to strike the oscillating device and the whole economy will collapse and there will be roving bands of thieves coming to steal your food and fuel. But oddly enough, if you wish to spend some money with these guys they will be happy to sell you books on how to protect yourself, storage units to keep your food, secret lockers to hide your stuff, and freeze-dried food enough to last you a year.
    Follow the money trail..those who are looking to make a profit off the 'current conditions' are not to be trusted.
  • thesmellofapples
    thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
    My fiance hates all things government and would want to do the same, but there is no way we can afford that.

    He also said there was a bill trying to get passed that could imprision people without trial or evidence, but I don't know if that's true.

    yeah that's another bill that's working towards being passed. i really didn't think it would go through but with everything else going on i'm pretty sure it can make it through easily.
  • jbosey
    jbosey Posts: 119 Member
    Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????
  • cobracars
    cobracars Posts: 949 Member
    x2

    At least here so far the drug lords are not cutting off people's heads.
  • thesmellofapples
    thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
    Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????

    i really just want to move to canada. it's nice and cold and there's lots of hockey and health care.
  • Redfieldr
    Redfieldr Posts: 37
    It if were an option I'd be somewhere else
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
    Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????

    i really just want to move to canada. it's nice and cold and there's lots of hockey and health care.

    While the health care system is nice, i've heard it takes forever to be seen for primary care.
  • clarkeje1
    clarkeje1 Posts: 1,641 Member
    The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.
  • cscheiern
    cscheiern Posts: 45
    I agree this country is going down for many reasons but in my opinion it is still better than any other. so far...
  • cobracars
    cobracars Posts: 949 Member
    There's health care in the USA.

    Here you either pay for it when you need it or get an employer to pay for you, or accept the limited care the government hands out.

    In Canada you pay for it with your taxes and accept the limited care the government hands out.

    I don't see much benefit of theirs over ours.
  • AussieNikki
    AussieNikki Posts: 168 Member
    I moved to the US from Australia 3 years ago and I tell you, I prefer living here. In Australia the taxes are insane and the government has much more control over you.
  • crisnis
    crisnis Posts: 83 Member
    Guess there are American's and their are fair weather Americans...

    I'm proud to say I am an American :heart: - In good times and in bad, this is the best country in the world! I wholeheartedly welcome all those that don't agree to find happiness elsewhere - Maybe it's the lack of faith that is half the problem...
  • AussieNikki
    AussieNikki Posts: 168 Member
    Oh and I am extremely excited to take my US citizenship test next year! :bigsmile:
  • crisnis
    crisnis Posts: 83 Member
    Oh and I am extremely excited to take my US citizenship test next year! :bigsmile:

    I am excited for you! The best of luck!
  • PepeGreggerton
    PepeGreggerton Posts: 986 Member
    Ask someone from Canada how much milk cost. They drive here to Michigan for groceries.
  • EricNCSU
    EricNCSU Posts: 699 Member
    I'm somewhat tempted to jump ship to Canada.
    On the other hand it feels wrong to just give up instead of fight to make things better here.

    i've been contemplating canada. but the way things are turning out - it seems to me like OWS protesters are going to start being beaten or arrested for trying to change anything. the same thing going on in syria and what happened in egypt this past january. and they've BEEN fighting to no avail.

    You do realize the Occupy people are breaking THOUSANDS of laws not the least of which is tresspassing and destruction of propery.. they have been asked to leave hundreds of times. They are lucky they are just getting tear gassed and arrested. They are PART of the problem.. not the solution.

    I'm guessing you don't vote, so you're not voicing your opinion...
  • thesmellofapples
    thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
    The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.

    funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.
  • savannahgro
    savannahgro Posts: 113 Member
    Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????

    i really just want to move to canada. it's nice and cold and there's lots of hockey and health care.

    While the health care system is nice, i've heard it takes forever to be seen for primary care.

    Maybe if you live in the sticks? My boyfriend is Canadian and he can see his primary about as quickly as I can see mine.
    With my insurance now, I can't even go to an urgent care center without shelling out $250 just to see a doctor. The last time I ended up in the ER (not even a full day) I had to pay around $1000. Ridiculous!
  • thesmellofapples
    thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
    I'm somewhat tempted to jump ship to Canada.
    On the other hand it feels wrong to just give up instead of fight to make things better here.

    i've been contemplating canada. but the way things are turning out - it seems to me like OWS protesters are going to start being beaten or arrested for trying to change anything. the same thing going on in syria and what happened in egypt this past january. and they've BEEN fighting to no avail.

    You do realize the Occupy people are breaking THOUSANDS of laws not the least of which is tresspassing and destruction of propery.. they have been asked to leave hundreds of times. They are lucky they are just getting tear gassed and arrested. They are PART of the problem.. not the solution.

    I'm guessing you don't vote, so you're not voicing your opinion...

    you guessed wrong. i vote every year and am very active on politics when i can be. i'm just pessimistic i guess. just don't feel like my opinion counts much.
  • gem975
    gem975 Posts: 29
    No matter where you go you won't be as well off as you are here in the USA.

    I'm sorry but LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
  • crisnis
    crisnis Posts: 83 Member
    The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.

    funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.

    I hope you enjoy Canada... It isn't uncommon for your generation to not appreciate the gifts this country has to offer. Just the fact that you can speak negatively of your country without consequence is a gift provided to you by the very country you speak poorly of - ironic...
  • Tiffrachelle
    Tiffrachelle Posts: 7
    I couldn't agree more. A friend of mine tried to warn me of this happening LAST year and I brushed it off as him being well, crazy...Now everything that he said is basically coming true. Kind of scary. =/
  • Runner_mick
    Runner_mick Posts: 115 Member
    Ask someone from Canada how much milk cost. They drive here to Michigan for groceries.
    Thats a genius idea! Those smart Canadians
  • thesmellofapples
    thesmellofapples Posts: 287 Member
    The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.

    funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.

    I hope you enjoy Canada... It isn't uncommon for your generation to not appreciate the gifts this country has to offer. Just the fact that you can speak negatively of your country without consequence is a gift provided to you by the very country you speak poorly of - ironic...

    except the fact that they're passing a bill to censor any negative comments about said government. freedom of speech ftw.
  • jbosey
    jbosey Posts: 119 Member
    Ive been there and it is nice. I enjoyed the stay. But the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. There are no perfect countries.
  • crisnis
    crisnis Posts: 83 Member
    The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.

    funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.

    I hope you enjoy Canada... It isn't uncommon for your generation to not appreciate the gifts this country has to offer. Just the fact that you can speak negatively of your country without consequence is a gift provided to you by the very country you speak poorly of - ironic...

    except the fact that they're passing a bill to censor any negative comments about said government. freedom of speech ftw.

    I would love to see your reputable source of information...
  • CrystalMarie253
    CrystalMarie253 Posts: 128
    Personally I try not to get too paranoid about what the media hypes up. And as bad as things may seem here I try to be happy for the good things and not focus on what I don't like. My last comment is this:

    "You can judge the greatness of a country by how many people are trying to get in vs how many people are trying to get out."

    There is a reason so many people wanna come to America, and the majority of those leaving are the ones law enforcement is trying to hunt down. So I love this country for the good and the bad and I can't imagine living anywhere else :)
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