please tell me i'm not the only one.

lcpurser

Haha, my feelings. Plus, all family is here!

determinedbutlazy

Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????

i really just want to move to canada. it's nice and cold and there's lots of hockey and health care.

While the health care system is nice, i've heard it takes forever to be seen for primary care.

Maybe if you live in the sticks? My boyfriend is Canadian and he can see his primary about as quickly as I can see mine.
With my insurance now, I can't even go to an urgent care center without shelling out $250 just to see a doctor. The last time I ended up in the ER (not even a full day) I had to pay around $1000. Ridiculous!

I can't get my head around having to pay MONEY to go to the emergency room ):

determinedbutlazy

NHS for the win.

-big thumbs up-

happyhiram

My fiance hates all things government and would want to do the same, but there is no way we can afford that.

He also said there was a bill trying to get passed that could imprision people without trial or evidence, but I don't know if that's true.

I believe you're talking about the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that Obama just signed into action. It gives the government authorization to detain people for an indefinite amount of time without trial or evidence if they are suspected of terrorism or some BS.

D446

But where would you go? I supposedly live in the best country on earth (Australia) and it has been RUINED!!!! Bleeding hearts have ruined this wonderful country as I knew it. Sooooo, there is nowhere for us to go now. Unless we go to the empty s^%tholes because all of those people are here living it up!!!!

The eff?!?!?! Wow......

4thehardman

My fiance hates all things government and would want to do the same, but there is no way we can afford that.

He also said there was a bill trying to get passed that could imprision people without trial or evidence, but I don't know if that's true.

They do that here. I'm in Switzerland and they can put you in prison and keep you there until proven innoccent. A friend of ours was in prison for a year out here (he is an expat too) before they realised that he was innoccent and then it was kind of 'oh sorry, no hard feeling eh' kind of affair!

happyhiram

The answer is not to get out of the country. The solution to the problem is to take a stand, get active in politics, vote, DO SOMETHING to better the country.

funny thing is i do. i vote and i've gone to a couple city council meetings. and i went to the gulf to help clean up the oil spill. i do clean up projects for my city and i have gone to 18 protests. i recycle and i rescue abandoned animals. i make differences here and there but nothing that can make a sufficient change to the government.

I hope you enjoy Canada... It isn't uncommon for your generation to not appreciate the gifts this country has to offer. Just the fact that you can speak negatively of your country without consequence is a gift provided to you by the very country you speak poorly of - ironic...

The way things are going, we might not be able to speak freely of our country and it's top notch leaders anymore (heavy sarcasm intended here). There was an act signed into place that allows people to be detained by the government indefinitely without a trial if they are suspected of terrorism.

I'm not saying it's going to happen...but that's the making of something very terrible. Say something about a government official or the government itself that someone higher up doesn't like? Well...you see where I'm going with this.

Don't get me wrong, I love this country. I'm glad to be an American city for the most part. But I fear the way things are going.

ItsCasey

People get the government they deserve. America is full of lazy, entitled crybabies, hence the poor excuses for "leaders" we have in Washington these days.

I wish that just one of these people who claim they're going to move to another country would actually grow a pair and do it. The fewer whiners, the better.

Except for you though, right? America is full of lazy entitled crybabies, except for you. You're the 1 American who is hard working and never complains (aside from what you're complaining about in this post).

I'm sorry - I don't usually like to call individuals out for their statements but I had to in this case.

Don't make generalizations about a group of people (especially one that you're a part of). The inherent laziness of some people has pretty much nothing to do with the election process and the choosing of political candidates. Laziness of the American citizen is also not to blame for an economic crisis - that is not happening only to the United States. It's rather widespread.

Again, take a few minutes to think about what you're actually saying before you post something. If you have a differing opinion from other people that's fine, but you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Make your point. Say something intellectual and factual.

I just think it's ironic that you wrote a post like this, which is quite whiny in my opinion, about Americans, while you are one.

Developing some reading comprehension skills will do you a lot of favors. At no point in your incoherent rambling do you appear to be cognizant of the fact that I never claimed to be the only hard-working person in America, which makes the rest of your "argument" completely pointless.

TheRoadDog

Have a safe trip.

sendit

NDAA. It already passed. SOPA/PIPA will destroy the internet.

jennajava

Different groups of people have given in to this feeling over almost every election or catastrophe. Don't give in to the hype.

cygnetpro

Relax, you're just suffering from media overexposure.

No matter where you go you won't be as well off as you are here in the USA.

The same things have been going on since not only the 1960's, but all the way back to the early 1800's.

People have also been predicting the end of the world for the past several hundred years.

My sister is falling prey to some of these people who are promoting their scare tactics. They say the fecal matter is going to strike the oscillating device and the whole economy will collapse and there will be roving bands of thieves coming to steal your food and fuel. But oddly enough, if you wish to spend some money with these guys they will be happy to sell you books on how to protect yourself, storage units to keep your food, secret lockers to hide your stuff, and freeze-dried food enough to last you a year.
Follow the money trail..those who are looking to make a profit off the 'current conditions' are not to be trusted.

What this person said. Just breathe.

Missjilly1025

Relax, you're just suffering from media overexposure.

No matter where you go you won't be as well off as you are here in the USA. EXCEPT FOR CANADA - WE HAVE FEEE HEALTH CARE (sorry for the caps just wanted this quote to be seen)

The same things have been going on since not only the 1960's, but all the way back to the early 1800's.

People have also been predicting the end of the world for the past several hundred years.

My sister is falling prey to some of these people who are promoting their scare tactics. They say the fecal matter is going to strike the oscillating device and the whole economy will collapse and there will be roving bands of thieves coming to steal your food and fuel. But oddly enough, if you wish to spend some money with these guys they will be happy to sell you books on how to protect yourself, storage units to keep your food, secret lockers to hide your stuff, and freeze-dried food enough to last you a year.
Follow the money trail..those who are looking to make a profit off the 'current conditions' are not to be trusted.

koko65

I’ve live overseas a couple of times in my life, and from my experience I noted there sure seemed to be a high percentage of people that way who wanted to come to America (live). There was still almost a naïve notion that our streets were pave with gold/ all be it opportunities that they did not feel they had in their own countries. Even at that level, they looked to the US to be their savior and a source that would make all their dreams come true. For my own part, all be the fact that I was already a bit jaded with America to a certain degree--via the broader mind I thought my college education gave me lol, my own experiences living overseas only made me even more proud to be an American. Fact of the matter is, its true, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the fence, well, unless we grow it ourselves.

Ladyloraella

I live in Scotland. As far as the free healthcare goes, of course it has problems and emergency room waiting times need to improve (although if you're urgent you will get seen immediately) but I've had never had issues.
I have lovely straight teeth from having braces - no cost to me. Although it does cost me now (but not as much as private)
I had my ears operated on when I was a child (and my twin sister) to stop us from going deaf: No waiting and free.
I stayed in hospital for 4 days when my kidneys nearly failed on me, the nurses where on hand when I was puking my guts up, got me tea and toast whenever I wanted it, I had anti sickness injections and was on a constant drip. Left 100% better - No cost to me.
I can see a GP within a week if it's not urgent, immediately if it is. I do have to pay for medication but it's like £5 per subscription and I get free eye tests.
I'm very grateful for what I can get and it makes me angry when people complain about tiny things (like dentist fees) and you can pay for private if you want. I also get free birth control. The idea that women need to pay for that elsewhere seems mental to me. And I'm so glad my "right to choose" is never under threat (also under NHS) It's just not an issue political issue for our government. A lot of American politicians, seem to be too into God/Bible teachings to think clearly on issues like that.

National minimum wage could be better due to prices increasing like crazy (Gas/Electricity is the biggest concern and then petrol prices)

And the milk thing...A gallon of milk is around £2-£3.

I also get my uni/college fees paid for me and if you're poor usually a bursary/travel expenses too.

1a1a

I'm pretty happy in Australia (although I've no where else to compare it to).

Also, I've heard carrying a gun is an invitation to be shot at.

ShadowSoldier23

I live in Scotland. As far as the free healthcare goes, of course it has problems and emergency room waiting times need to improve (although if you're urgent you will get seen immediately) but I've had never had issues.
I have lovely straight teeth from having braces - no cost to me. Although it does cost me now (but not as much as private)
I had my ears operated on when I was a child (and my twin sister) to stop us from going deaf: No waiting and free.
I stayed in hospital for 4 days when my kidneys nearly failed on me, the nurses where on hand when I was puking my guts up, got me tea and toast whenever I wanted it, I had anti sickness injections and was on a constant drip. Left 100% better - No cost to me.
I can see a GP within a week if it's not urgent, immediately if it is. I do have to pay for medication but it's like £5 per subscription and I get free eye tests.
I'm very grateful for what I can get and it makes me angry when people complain about tiny things (like dentist fees) and you can pay for private if you want. I also get free birth control. The idea that women need to pay for that elsewhere seems mental to me. And I'm so glad my "right to choose" is never under threat (also under NHS) It's just not an issue political issue for our government. A lot of American politicians, seem to be too into God/Bible teachings to think clearly on issues like that.

National minimum wage could be better due to prices increasing like crazy (Gas/Electricity is the biggest concern and then petrol prices)

And the milk thing...A gallon of milk is around £2-£3.

I also get my uni/college fees paid for me and if you're poor usually a bursary/travel expenses too.

I completely agree with you about the birth control thing. There shouldn't be any issue in getting it for free, then we could prevent a lot of the welfare issues we have her in the US now. I am fortunate enough (if you want to say that) to be low income so I get free birth control and a once yearly exam. Although it isn't much it's the only time I get to see a doctor without having to go to the emergency room.

America has a lot of politicians and people who are set on their ideas and ways. As much as we need change (no i don't mean Obama change, I just mean general change) people are too happy in their little boxes, they can't step outside and think about the general welfare of EVERYONE instead of just themselves. I'm sure I will get crap for saying that, but it is true. We are individualistic country, as much as anyone wants to deny it, and I see it everyday especially in politics. We have a long way to go, I just hope that it happens in my lifetime.

bunnyfluff89

Like everything else in this world there is good and bad, and our generation unfortunatly is lazy and ill-educated, we see what we want to and go with promises, but when i comes to it i dont think the american populace will let this country get to much worse with out a fight. Its not perfect and there are hard times but other countries are worse some even limit your music, tv, reading, and even how you speak on your phone. It'll get better eventualy, hang in there and you'll see.