please tell me i'm not the only one.
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The fewer lawyers, the better, too.
Lawyers are the only ones fighting for your rights in a court room. If you were to get charged for something you did not do, wouldn't you want someone there arguing your side to the judge and jury? I know I would.0 -
The fewer lawyers, the better, too.
People don't hate lawyers....they hate the OTHER guy's lawyer. :bigsmile:0 -
It might seem bad right now, but its a hell of alot worse in other countries. Ya know? America has been through alot worse then this, and keep in mind we are still a relatively new country when you look at the spectrum of world history.
I do agree that some of these laws are absolutely ludacris, but you can't say our government isn't trying to solve problems. Sometimes, you have to take the wrong road to realize which is the right path to take.0 -
People get the government they deserve. America is full of lazy, entitled crybabies, hence the poor excuses for "leaders" we have in Washington these days.
I wish that just one of these people who claim they're going to move to another country would actually grow a pair and do it. The fewer whiners, the better.
Except for you though, right? America is full of lazy entitled crybabies, except for you. You're the 1 American who is hard working and never complains (aside from what you're complaining about in this post).
I'm sorry - I don't usually like to call individuals out for their statements but I had to in this case.
Don't make generalizations about a group of people (especially one that you're a part of). The inherent laziness of some people has pretty much nothing to do with the election process and the choosing of political candidates. Laziness of the American citizen is also not to blame for an economic crisis - that is not happening only to the United States. It's rather widespread.
Again, take a few minutes to think about what you're actually saying before you post something. If you have a differing opinion from other people that's fine, but you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Make your point. Say something intellectual and factual.
I just think it's ironic that you wrote a post like this, which is quite whiny in my opinion, about Americans, while you are one.0 -
My grandparents did not leave the Socialist Fascists of Europe to have the likes of Obama, Pelosi and Reid detail every part of their descendants' lives. Unfortunately, there aren't any other places to go. Canada and Europe are further down the line and Asia, and Africa, well.....the less said the better.0
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Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????
i really just want to move to canada. it's nice and cold and there's lots of hockey and health care.
Socialized Healthcare is not the answer. Talk to someone from Canada before you believe this...0 -
Ive noticed most of the disallusioned here seem to be young people (men and women under 30 or so). I wonder why that is? Could it be they were brought up in the world where they were entertained most of their childhood and teen years? My kids were always going somewhere, doing something with someone, spending money here and there, every night they were somewhere having fun. To grow up that way and then have the reality of the real cold world hit you in the face is very hard and frightening. To be expected to take care of yourself just doesnt seem fair. That is why so many think that it is the governments business to support or take care of them. That is why this uprising of the groups wanting the rich and the Corporations to share their wealth with them. It doenst matter about all the years and years of hard study, work, and late nights went into making that money, they simply want it now. This is not to insult anyone, its just my view as I see it from my experiences.
Sadly I grew up very fast because my family was poor growing up. We got a lot of things second hand, we lived in a ****ty apartment complex where I got molested by other neighborhood boys that their parents didn't give two cents about them (no sympathy needed) and we ate a LOT of ramen, peanut butter or tuna sandwiches. We got free lunch, never had health care as children and I didn't go to the dentist until I HAD to have a root canal at the age of 23. Nothing was EVER handed to me, and I worked as soon as I was old enough to baby sit. But yet I see how our government treats people like (read my previous post about healthcare). I was told I could not get food stamps to help me through college because as a college student I am required to work 20 hours on top of my school load. As I am trying to get into veterinary school i don't have to time work AND mantain a 3.72 gpa. But yet the government doesn't care about my aspirations. But if i got knocked up I could get medicaid, food stamps, housing and even emergency 1000 bucks of cash!
Poor you - I work, attend NURSING school and provide insurance for myself and my two children... It CAN be done, and it isn't the governments job to make it easy on you. PS... I also carry at 3.8 GPA and will graduate in May.
For some of us it doesn't come easy. I am not very good at memorizing things and wind up spending a ton of time studying...much more than most of my classmates with the same gpa. I only ask for some help while I try to get through school instead of trying to bury myself in student loan debt. My POINT was that people who get knocked up and have children as a career to use the government get away with it. There are so many housing projects here where people drive brand new escalades and have 60 inch flat screen tvs while theyre baby daddy makes 4k a month and it isnt claimed on their housing status. I am merely pissed that the system is so screwed up because I see people who really need the help struggle and get turned away more times than not, but I see welfare housing full of prosperity. I'm glad you have it as well as you do, most of us are not that lucky. I do work part time (19 hrs) as a tutor, I help run a non profit animal rescue which relies on me heavily for a lot of things, i go to school full time and I work during any break delivering pizza. No one can say I'm not doing the best I can, which is what seems to be the case here.0 -
People get the government they deserve.
So those North Koreans must be total *kitten*, huh? And Iraq, Iran, those countries must be stockpiled with complete jerks.
And Mexico's government is crazily corrupt, that must be the people's fault too.
Did you proofread this? Or think of the validity of the statement in any context other than bashing Americans?
No, you did not.0 -
I'd def chose not to live in a country where I felt it essential to carry a firearm to defend myself, it must be a really dangerous place nor a country where evolution is not being taught in certain schools due to religious control.
that's just my thought on it.
The op is entitled to her views & current events show he isn't the only one feeling it.0 -
People get the government they deserve.
So those North Koreans must be total *kitten*, huh? And Iraq, Iran, those countries must be stockpiled with complete jerks.
And Mexico's government is crazily corrupt, that must be the people's fault too.
Did you proofread this? Or think of the validity of the statement in any context other than bashing Americans?
No, you did not.
^And that too.0 -
Ive noticed most of the disallusioned here seem to be young people (men and women under 30 or so). I wonder why that is? Could it be they were brought up in the world where they were entertained most of their childhood and teen years? My kids were always going somewhere, doing something with someone, spending money here and there, every night they were somewhere having fun. To grow up that way and then have the reality of the real cold world hit you in the face is very hard and frightening. To be expected to take care of yourself just doesnt seem fair. That is why so many think that it is the governments business to support or take care of them. That is why this uprising of the groups wanting the rich and the Corporations to share their wealth with them. It doenst matter about all the years and years of hard study, work, and late nights went into making that money, they simply want it now. This is not to insult anyone, its just my view as I see it from my experiences.
Sadly I grew up very fast because my family was poor growing up. We got a lot of things second hand, we lived in a ****ty apartment complex where I got molested by other neighborhood boys that their parents didn't give two cents about them (no sympathy needed) and we ate a LOT of ramen, peanut butter or tuna sandwiches. We got free lunch, never had health care as children and I didn't go to the dentist until I HAD to have a root canal at the age of 23. Nothing was EVER handed to me, and I worked as soon as I was old enough to baby sit. But yet I see how our government treats people like (read my previous post about healthcare). I was told I could not get food stamps to help me through college because as a college student I am required to work 20 hours on top of my school load. As I am trying to get into veterinary school i don't have to time work AND mantain a 3.72 gpa. But yet the government doesn't care about my aspirations. But if i got knocked up I could get medicaid, food stamps, housing and even emergency 1000 bucks of cash!
Poor you - I work, attend NURSING school and provide insurance for myself and my two children... It CAN be done, and it isn't the governments job to make it easy on you. PS... I also carry at 3.8 GPA and will graduate in May.
For some of us it doesn't come easy. I am not very good at memorizing things and wind up spending a ton of time studying...much more than most of my classmates with the same gpa. I only ask for some help while I try to get through school instead of trying to bury myself in student loan debt. My POINT was that people who get knocked up and have children as a career to use the government get away with it. There are so many housing projects here where people drive brand new escalades and have 60 inch flat screen tvs while theyre baby daddy makes 4k a month and it isnt claimed on their housing status. I am merely pissed that the system is so screwed up because I see people who really need the help struggle and get turned away more times than not, but I see welfare housing full of prosperity. I'm glad you have it as well as you do, most of us are not that lucky. I do work part time (19 hrs) as a tutor, I help run a non profit animal rescue which relies on me heavily for a lot of things, i go to school full time and I work during any break delivering pizza. No one can say I'm not doing the best I can, which is what seems to be the case here.
Interesting that you think I have it "as well as I do" at what point did I say anything I was doing was easy, or that I had it well? Don't assume that just because I'm succeeding that I'm not suffering and sacrificing everyday to do it... I would say give up the volunteer work so you can work full time and get health insurance, but that would just be my priority, if you CHOOSE to put time into something besides working that is YOUR choice and the government shouldn't have to supplement your income because of it... It does suck to see others getting the help when they don't deserve it, or by trickery, and the welfare system is a mess... BUT as long as God gave me will and ability I will succeed - helping hand or not. Their lies and deceit are on them and they will be judged.0 -
Ask someone from Canada how much milk cost. They drive here to Michigan for groceries.
Ooh, I'll bite. Milk is about $3 for a 4 litre jug (about a gallon) where I am - how much is it in Michigan?
Also, the person you quoted should consider the minimum wages. Each province in Canada has a minimum wage/hour AT LEAST 2 dollars higher than Michigan.
Minimum wage in my province is $10/hour... but I still need to know more about the cost of milk in Michigan! I have nothing better to do right now than be seriously interested in this! ;D
bought a gallon just today for 3.50. i guess we're not so different after all, huh?
Is it ok if I give a little internet squee over our milk bond?
i'll allow it this one time.
Hah. High five.
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i really want to move out of the UK! i want to move abroad, and start a whole new fresh life, whether im single or in a relationship. (im sure ill find a lush hunky fella abroad!) ive had a really rough past since from the age of 11, starting high schoool - being bullied day in day out (the main cause of my weight gain) ive had alot of rough relationships, got pregnant at 13, never knew who my father is - he left my mum halfway threw her pregnancy with me. soo i really just want to get out of the UK as it has too many bad memories for me. Ive actually been saving money into a seperate bank account to put towards flights, buy my own house, etc etc. Im no where near saved enough to get myself out the UK, but maybe in a few years or so!.0
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Bahahha all i could think of reading half of these comments is this song
..... this is what my dad and brothers play all the time ( all army)
The Fightin' Side Of Me
(Walking on the fightin' side of me)
I hear people talkin' bad,
About the way they have to live here in this country;
Harpin' on the wars we fight,
An' gripin' 'bout the way things oughta be.
I don't mind 'em switchin' sides,
An' standin' up for things that they believe in.
But, When they're runnin' down our country, man,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Their, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down a way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and tried to keep.
Well, If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song that I'm singin' be a warnin'.
And when you're runnin' down our country, hoss,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
--- Instrumental ---
I read about some squirrely guy,
Who claims, he just don't believe in fightin'.
An' I wonder just how long,
The rest of us can count on bein' free.
They love our milk an' honey,
But they preach about some other way of livin'.
And when they're runnin' down our country, man,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Aww, They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down the way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and tried to keep.
Well, If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song that I'm singin' be a warnin'.
And when you're runnin' down our country, hoss,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Yes, when you runnin' down our country, hoss
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
(Walking on the fightin' side of me)
I hear people talkin' bad,
About the way they have to live here in this country;
Harpin' on the wars we fight,
An' gripin' 'bout the way things oughta be.
I don't mind 'em switchin' sides,
An' standin' up for things that they believe in.
But, When they're runnin' down our country, man,
They're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Their, walkin' on the fightin' side of me.
Runnin' down a way of life,
Our fightin' men have fought and tried to keep.
Well, If you don't love it, leave it:
Let this song that I'm singin' be a warnin'.
And when you're runnin' down our country, hoss,
You're walkin' on the fightin' side of me.0 -
Ive noticed most of the disallusioned here seem to be young people (men and women under 30 or so). I wonder why that is? Could it be they were brought up in the world where they were entertained most of their childhood and teen years? My kids were always going somewhere, doing something with someone, spending money here and there, every night they were somewhere having fun. To grow up that way and then have the reality of the real cold world hit you in the face is very hard and frightening. To be expected to take care of yourself just doesnt seem fair. That is why so many think that it is the governments business to support or take care of them. That is why this uprising of the groups wanting the rich and the Corporations to share their wealth with them. It doenst matter about all the years and years of hard study, work, and late nights went into making that money, they simply want it now. This is not to insult anyone, its just my view as I see it from my experiences.
Sadly I grew up very fast because my family was poor growing up. We got a lot of things second hand, we lived in a ****ty apartment complex where I got molested by other neighborhood boys that their parents didn't give two cents about them (no sympathy needed) and we ate a LOT of ramen, peanut butter or tuna sandwiches. We got free lunch, never had health care as children and I didn't go to the dentist until I HAD to have a root canal at the age of 23. Nothing was EVER handed to me, and I worked as soon as I was old enough to baby sit. But yet I see how our government treats people like (read my previous post about healthcare). I was told I could not get food stamps to help me through college because as a college student I am required to work 20 hours on top of my school load. As I am trying to get into veterinary school i don't have to time work AND mantain a 3.72 gpa. But yet the government doesn't care about my aspirations. But if i got knocked up I could get medicaid, food stamps, housing and even emergency 1000 bucks of cash!
Poor you - I work, attend NURSING school and provide insurance for myself and my two children... It CAN be done, and it isn't the governments job to make it easy on you. PS... I also carry at 3.8 GPA and will graduate in May.
For some of us it doesn't come easy. I am not very good at memorizing things and wind up spending a ton of time studying...much more than most of my classmates with the same gpa. I only ask for some help while I try to get through school instead of trying to bury myself in student loan debt. My POINT was that people who get knocked up and have children as a career to use the government get away with it. There are so many housing projects here where people drive brand new escalades and have 60 inch flat screen tvs while theyre baby daddy makes 4k a month and it isnt claimed on their housing status. I am merely pissed that the system is so screwed up because I see people who really need the help struggle and get turned away more times than not, but I see welfare housing full of prosperity. I'm glad you have it as well as you do, most of us are not that lucky. I do work part time (19 hrs) as a tutor, I help run a non profit animal rescue which relies on me heavily for a lot of things, i go to school full time and I work during any break delivering pizza. No one can say I'm not doing the best I can, which is what seems to be the case here.
Interesting that you think I have it "as well as I do" at what point did I say anything I was doing was easy, or that I had it well? Don't assume that just because I'm succeeding that I'm not suffering and sacrificing everyday to do it... I would say give up the volunteer work so you can work full time and get health insurance, but that would just be my priority, if you CHOOSE to put time into something besides working that is YOUR choice and the government shouldn't have to supplement your income because of it... It does suck to see others getting the help when they don't deserve it, or by trickery, and the welfare system is a mess... BUT as long as God gave me will and ability I will succeed - helping hand or not. Their lies and deceit are on them and they will be judged.
In all honesty the way in which you are writing is coming off as very pretentious. Essentially you're first delineating that you have a very difficult amount of coursework but are still able to care for your children. Good, I'm glad your kids are well taken care of. That doesn't mean that everyone who doesn't have what you have aren't working hard. If that's not what you're trying to say, fine, but that's how it's reading to everyone else.
I think the reason you're getting the kind of response you did is because of the way you emphasize "NURSING" school, like that's so much more difficult. That you are able to maintain a 3.8 GPA, and etc. Do you think that makes you a better person? Do you think that people who are maybe working as hard if not harder as you are undeserving of help from a government system that you admit is not working properly? Welfare isn't perfect, you're right. That doesn't mean everyone who is on it doesn't need it, and it doesn't mean that those who need it are being provided for in every case.
It's a little scary to see you suggest that someone give up volunteering. Maybe your idea of success in life, and what is rewarding, is different than others. I think if she chooses to volunteer she's doing it because she wants to. Don't think you're coming to a magnanimous conclusion to suggest something like giving that up for better grades. It's possible that doing this kind of work could help someone feel better about themselves as well as take stress away. That's worth something to me.
I don't personally think most people "choose" their situations. If you were lucky (yes LUCKY) enough to have gotten yourself into a situation where you can afford healthcare and go to school, awesome. That doesn't mean people who go to school and work and aren't able to afford health care aren't trying as hard.
As for me, I have no kids. I have a college degree, and I still have to live at home with my parents. I put out plenty of job applications every day and I'm working full time. I can't afford rent, let alone health care and I am having trouble finding a job that will put me above the poverty line. Would you say I was lazy? That I was not working as hard as I should be? I'm doing the best I can as are many people. Again, if you're fortunate enough to be in the situation where you can make things work (regardless of how much struggling is involved) that's good for you but it's really unfair to call people out and tell them they're not entitled to help when you don't know the first or second thing about their situation.
Lastly, I really don't understand why you started to mention God because last I checked this was not a religious discussion. There are groups for that here and on other sites on the internet, and I suggest you go air your grievances in the company of those with similar beliefs. It's a little bit disrespectful to talk about God judging people and punishing them and etc. just as I'm sure you would feel the same way if someone who followed Buddhism told you that you'd be reincarnated as a less fortunate human being. Put it into perspective. Have your beliefs and follow them to your hearts content but try to keep that to yourself or put it in an appropriate location.0 -
galaxyhearts you are my new bff. lol. You said it much better than I could. But then again I'm not saying anymore anyway 0
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America has been through alot worse then this, and keep in mind we are still a relatively new country when you look at the spectrum of world history.
well, brand new, with it's 300 years of history.0 -
I just take care of my own, live very well and am happy in spite of what I don't like.
This.I've spent the last six months living in China, and when I get back to the US in two weeks I am going to kiss the floor of Newark Airport. Every country has its faults, but at least at home I have access to clean water...and Wikipedia.
And this.0 -
Apparently you have not experienced living in another country...like Cuba or Mexico....why do you think they are all risking their lives to come here????
i really just want to move to canada. it's nice and cold and there's lots of hockey and health care.
Socialized Healthcare is not the answer. Talk to someone from Canada before you believe this...
I am from Canada. It works great from where I sit. You're welcome 0 -
You're not the only one.0
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