What a Creep!

MooMooMoose · January 2012

Yes, hes a creeper. However, you were running in PUBLIC. He was within his legal rights to take pictures, because you are in a public setting and have no reasonable expectation of privacy.

Bottom line - You broke the law by taking his SD card. He was a creeper, but not doing anything illegal.

You want privacy while running? Buy a damn treadmill, and use it in your home.

CaptainGordo · January 2012

Excellent application of Pedobear. :laugh:

MooMooMoose · January 2012

Gross!

mea9 · January 2012

The law can be a nebulous thing and there are definitely two sides to this issue. Nothing was stolen and because the man handed him the camera there was no assault….

"I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away" That's theft.

...asked him if I could see the pictures he was like "oh yes they are good" I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away

The man handed him the camera to look at the pictures and the card is with the proper owner... Consent could be argued in that he didn't say where he wanted to look at the photos. The card and camera were returned.

Edit to add that I used the same quote as you did, just more of it.

CaptainGordo · January 2012

The law can be a nebulous thing and there are definitely two sides to this issue. Nothing was stolen and because the man handed him the camera there was no assault….

"I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away" That's theft.

...asked him if I could see the pictures he was like "oh yes they are good" I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away

The man handed him the camera to look at the pictures and the card is with the proper owner... Consent could be argued in that he didn't say where he wanted to look at the photos. The card and camera were returned.

:huh:

That's quite the stretch. Returning the stolen item would not forgive the crime. Also, what of the pics the kid deleted?

EricMurano · January 2012

I'm interested in photography so I listen to a lot of photography podcasts. A subject that comes up a lot is whether you're allowed to take photos of people in public. Most of the podcasts are from the U.S. so I can't take much from them (I live in Australia).

I *think* that if you are in public then you are allowed to be photographed but if the photographer wants to sell usage or rights of the photo then the people in the photo need to sign a release form that releases their copyright. See the people in the photo own copyright of the photo so they need to sign over the right before the photographer can profit from it.

Photos of children are actually a different law. Before you take photos of children their parents need to allow you to.

I could be misinterpreting everything (VERY LIKELY) but the point is that if you are in public you've "given up" your right to privacy in terms of your image.

That being said I hate how a lot of amateur photographers (and some pros too!) play the whole "just get away with it" mentality instead of trying to respect people.

EDIT: Yeah you shouldn't have taken the card. You should have demanded he delete the photos which I think you have the right to do.

mea9 · January 2012

The law can be a nebulous thing and there are definitely two sides to this issue. Nothing was stolen and because the man handed him the camera there was no assault….

"I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away" That's theft.

...asked him if I could see the pictures he was like "oh yes they are good" I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away

The man handed him the camera to look at the pictures and the card is with the proper owner... Consent could be argued in that he didn't say where he wanted to look at the photos. The card and camera were returned.

:huh:

That's quite the stretch.

I don't think so.

xflores3 · January 2012

lol you're such a lying *****.

CaptainGordo · January 2012

The law can be a nebulous thing and there are definitely two sides to this issue. Nothing was stolen and because the man handed him the camera there was no assault….

"I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away" That's theft.

...asked him if I could see the pictures he was like "oh yes they are good" I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away

The man handed him the camera to look at the pictures and the card is with the proper owner... Consent could be argued in that he didn't say where he wanted to look at the photos. The card and camera were returned.

:huh:

That's quite the stretch.

I don't think so.

Nor do many defense lawyers, which is why they get such a bad rap.

Dave198lbs · January 2012

If you really feel the OP was within his legal limits, I sincerely hope you are never on a jury.

Fortunately, the prosecution would instruct the jury as to what the law is, and he would certainly be found guilty.

My understanding is that it's very hard to predict what a jury will do.

Fair enough. The prosecution would lay out what the law is though.

actually...only the Judge explains the relevant law to the jury

lcchrt · January 2012

Wow this turned into a debate fast -_-. Point is, yep thats creepy! lol

mea9 · January 2012

The law can be a nebulous thing and there are definitely two sides to this issue. Nothing was stolen and because the man handed him the camera there was no assault….

"I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away" That's theft.

...asked him if I could see the pictures he was like "oh yes they are good" I took the camera took out the SD memory card said thanks and ran away

The man handed him the camera to look at the pictures and the card is with the proper owner... Consent could be argued in that he didn't say where he wanted to look at the photos. The card and camera were returned.

:huh:

That's quite the stretch.

I don't think so.

Nor do many defense lawyers, which is why they get such a bad rap.

Not more so than prosecuting lawyers:) I don't know what to tell you... There was no crime other than the original photos which, evidently, we need more information on.

sunkisses · January 2012

I call BS too. I can do that; I'm on your friends' list. I had pics taken without my consent by some dirty ol' man while I was showering at the beach once. I was 16. Made me feel awesome, safe, respected. I think I would have broken his camera if I could have. And I totally would have been worried about whether I broke the law or not.