Fall of the Great Food Pyramid

KiyaK
KiyaK Posts: 519 Member
edited November 5 in Food and Nutrition
Remember the Food Guide Pyramid? The U.S. Department of Agriculture developed it in 1992, for you nerds--I mean--charming readers who enjoy these things. Eat more of food groups towards the bottom (grains, fruits, veggies) and fewer of the food groups near the top (fats & oils). So easy to understand. Why mess with a good thing, right?

But they DID mess with it! Click to find out what replaced the ol' FGP & why:
http://runswithblisters.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/fall-of-the-great-food-pyramid/
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  • stylistchik
    stylistchik Posts: 1,436 Member
    Harvard School of Public Health came up with their own pate that looks a little better. It emphasizes vegetables, whole grains and healthy protein, does not include dairy but does include healthy oils. They also include the importance of exercise. :wink:

    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/
  • KiyaK
    KiyaK Posts: 519 Member
    I did see that and actually used one of their web pages as a source for my post. I chose not to mention Harvard's pyramid or plate for a few different reasons. I like to keep my posts short (under 400 words) and focused in topic. I felt that keeping this particular post focused on the changes in the only the USDA pyramids and plate would make it more unified. I might explain the Harvard plate in another post down the line, who knows! Thanks for your input :)
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.

    Primal_Blueprint_Food_Pyramid.jpg
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    I dont like what Harvard says. I think there is absolutely no reason to say dairy is bad.

    I also think theres no reason to change the food pyramid completely, but instead include good fats and lower the serving number because people are less active now than they used to be.
  • djkshdfd
    djkshdfd Posts: 443 Member
    I LOVE the one Grokette put up!
  • TheGoblinRoad
    TheGoblinRoad Posts: 835 Member
    I dont like what Harvard says. I think there is absolutely no reason to say dairy is bad.

    I also think theres no reason to change the food pyramid completely, but instead include good fats and lower the serving number because people are less active now than they used to be.

    Dairy consumption is one of the biggest causes of diet-related diseases.
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    sure it is
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
    meat-pyramid_design.png
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    image is broken
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.

    Primal_Blueprint_Food_Pyramid.jpg

    Why does that graphic say "Effortless Weight Loss" on it?
  • AggieCass09
    AggieCass09 Posts: 1,867 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.

    Primal_Blueprint_Food_Pyramid.jpg

    ^^^this. exactly this.
  • AggieCass09
    AggieCass09 Posts: 1,867 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.


    Why does that graphic say "Effortless Weight Loss" on it?

    because when following the primal blueprint (where this image is from) it really is easy to lose weight...i'm down 6 lbs in 3 weeks where as i lost ZERO pounds in all of 2011 by following a different grain-focused diet. it really is easy! marksdailyapple.com
  • TheGoblinRoad
    TheGoblinRoad Posts: 835 Member
    sure it is

    Here's some good information on the topic, though I've seen it elsewhere.

    http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products


    ADDING THIS: I'm not saying automatically go vegan. I practice veganism, my family doesn't. I also drink coffee, which I don't consider good for me, but I still drink it. And I have too much sugar in my coffee, but I still drink it. If I went back to having dairy, I'd definitely watch the amounts, knowing it wasn't good for me.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    I really hate people who say something is "easy to lose weight with." It doesn't really matter what kind of diet or eating plan you're doing, it's never as easy as you think.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
    I prefer Paula+Deens+Food+Pyramid.jpg
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    I dont like what Harvard says. I think there is absolutely no reason to say dairy is bad.

    I also think theres no reason to change the food pyramid completely, but instead include good fats and lower the serving number because people are less active now than they used to be.

    Dairy consumption is one of the biggest causes of diet-related diseases.

    Actually this post is partially correct. For thousands of years way before the pasteurization and homogenization process people were consuming the milk of domesticated animals without lactose intolerance issues.

    It wasn't until the pasteurization and homogenization process came about that lactose intolerance became an issue.

    If we were to go back to consuming raw dairy products from grass fed and pastured ruminants, we would see far less lactose intolerance issues.

    So what they have done to dairy is what is making it unconsumable.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,266 Member
    sure it is

    Here's some good information on the topic, though I've seen it elsewhere.

    http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products


    ADDING THIS: I'm not saying automatically go vegan. I practice veganism, my family doesn't. I also drink coffee, which I don't consider good for me, but I still drink it. And I have too much sugar in my coffee, but I still drink it. If I went back to having dairy, I'd definitely watch the amounts, knowing it wasn't good for me.
    That's what's called confirmation bias................you can't pick a vegetarian/vegan source and call that reliable scientific information.......lol.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.

    Primal_Blueprint_Food_Pyramid.jpg

    Why does that graphic say "Effortless Weight Loss" on it?

    When you find YOUR sweet spot following the pyramid above you will have effortless weight loss.

    Picture2.png
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    sure it is

    Here's some good information on the topic, though I've seen it elsewhere.

    http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products


    ADDING THIS: I'm not saying automatically go vegan. I practice veganism, my family doesn't. I also drink coffee, which I don't consider good for me, but I still drink it. And I have too much sugar in my coffee, but I still drink it. If I went back to having dairy, I'd definitely watch the amounts, knowing it wasn't good for me.
    This study is more concerned with cutting OUT dairy than smoking?

    I smoke and still find this weird.
    Also yes duh high fat isnt good to have in a diet...doesnt mean you cut out milk.

    Also the words "research suggests" are in there an AWFUL lot.

    Lactose intolerance is a good reason for those with that issue to cut out dairy, but not me.

    It's pretty obvious vitamin D comes from other sources, but ok. Whatever.

    Contaminants??? Really?? Everything we eat unless we grow it ourselves likely has contaminants. dur.

    Also a lot of these studies seem like coincidence and then they came up with reasons for their coincidences later on.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
    You could eat as much carbs as you want and lose weight. as long as it was under your caloriie limit
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.


    Why does that graphic say "Effortless Weight Loss" on it?

    because when following the primal blueprint (where this image is from) it really is easy to lose weight...i'm down 6 lbs in 3 weeks where as i lost ZERO pounds in all of 2011 by following a different grain-focused diet. it really is easy! marksdailyapple.com

    I dunno, it would take a lot of effort for someone to keep me away from grains. I have bread and and oatmeal every day, as well as dairy.

    But I guess to each their own.

    When I was a young *kitten*, I used to try to convince vegetarians and vegans they were wrong. But now that I'm a grownup *kitten* I don't bother :)
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    sure it is

    Here's some good information on the topic, though I've seen it elsewhere.

    http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products


    ADDING THIS: I'm not saying automatically go vegan. I practice veganism, my family doesn't. I also drink coffee, which I don't consider good for me, but I still drink it. And I have too much sugar in my coffee, but I still drink it. If I went back to having dairy, I'd definitely watch the amounts, knowing it wasn't good for me.
    That's what's called confirmation bias................you can't pick a vegetarian/vegan source and call that reliable scientific information.......lol.
    RIGHT???!

    I love how online people are always like "Oh hang on I found this thing written by someone who shares my theory, allow me to present it to you as fact
  • Thomasm198
    Thomasm198 Posts: 3,189 Member
    I prefer Paula+Deens+Food+Pyramid.jpg
    I think I prefer that one as well. It looks far tastier.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    When you find YOUR sweet spot following the pyramid above you will have effortless weight loss.

    I found my sweet spot a couple years ago. I've never cut out anything, except cheese and simple carbs when I first started out, because I was misguided.

    How long hve you been searching for YOUR sweet spot?
  • Jovialation
    Jovialation Posts: 7,632 Member
    BTW - this anti grain diet is pretty damned stupid.
    I dont think the food pyramid was built with the grain industry in mind.

    That is about the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

    And even if you find your "sweet spot" for carb consumption weight loss will not be "effortless" ...how long has it been since you followed this "foolproof" method?
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,266 Member
    This is the food pyramid I adhere to. I want nothing to do with the USDA's food pyramid that is catering to the likes of the grain industry and mostly Monsanto.

    Primal_Blueprint_Food_Pyramid.jpg

    Why does that graphic say "Effortless Weight Loss" on it?

    When you find YOUR sweet spot following the pyramid above you will have effortless weight loss.

    Picture2.png
    Because it's a satiating diet and people eat less, and has nothing to do with eating primally....any diet that is higher in protein and where the consumption of lots of veg is taking place does the same job...
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    I really hate that stupid chart. Please tell me hoe 100g of carbohydrates is the same for a 300 lb. person and a 130 lb. person. So one person should have it be ~30% of their diet, and the other should have it be ~15%? I have nothing against Paleo/Primal, but only to the extent that you're eating fresh and natural foods. If carbohydrates are the devil, then just say you're doing a low carb diet, because to me a diet made of natural and whole foods starts and ends with that point.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    BTW - this anti grain diet is pretty damned stupid.
    I dont think the food pyramid was built with the grain industry in mind.

    That is about the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

    And even if you find your stupid "sweet spot" for carb consumption weight loss will not be "effortless" you daft woman...how long has it been since you followed this "foolproof" method?

    That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, however I and many others here have had unwavering success with this plan and similar plans like it.

    The weight loss is effortless, meaning you just eat and the weight and fat falls right off your body.

    I lost 100 pounds before on a very similar plan and gained weight back after years of maintaining that weight loss due to a near fatal car accident in which I had no control over what I was being fed at the time and the amount of steroids that were pumped into me along with being immobile.

    So, I am healed and back on and the weight is coming off once again, effortlessly. Meaning I barely have to exercise. I am not having to deal with saggy, baggy skin or the like. I eat fat, protein and carbs from green leafy veggies and the weight comes off.
  • Topsking2010
    Topsking2010 Posts: 2,245 Member
    bump
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    I really hate that stupid chart. I've seen that before. Please tell me hoe 100g of carbohydrates is the same for a 300 lb. person and a 150 lb. person. I have nothing against Paleo/Primal, but only to the extent that you're eating fresh and natural foods. Not to the fact that "herpaderp carbohydrates are the devil."

    No where does it say carbs are the devil..................... You are eating plenty of carbs via vegetables and fruits.

    That is why it is mentioned that you have to find "YOUR own sweetspot, meaning everyone is different depending on age, sex, height, weight, activity level, etc...........that is just common sense.
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